: Females are always asking me, how do I know if a man is gay or on the down low. Simply, I tell them too look for signs. But just like Stevie Wonder some women are so blind.
Trust me, there is a down low dude in every female's life - they just don't know who it is. A down low man can be anybody: your man, your brother, your father, your co worker, your preacher, that thug from the block you got a crush on, your favorite rapper. But anyway, we going in...
BIMBO’S TOP TEN SIGNS OF A DOWN LOW MAN
10. He Likes To "Pretend" To Dance Like A Woman. While a 50 Cent or Jay Z song is on, they on the wall looking mad. But, as soon as Beyonce comes on, he is all over the dance floor poppin' his booty and doing it better than you girl. Yeh, you think he’s playing and trying to make you laugh. But child he’s really not. Besides ladies, you don’t want no man, who be poppin his booty to beyonce. That’s a no no.
9. He's Always With His Best Friend. I mean always together like two females. Always working out together, always on the phone together. And, you as the girlfriend wonder why he spends more time with his best friend than with you. Cause donkey you are his cover up. And, as long as he is with you, no one will think that he is gay. Wake up sister!
8. He Picks An Argument With You For No Reason. And, then leaves the house for hours. He does this so he has time for the both of you and his down low lover. So be cautious child, if your man is always picking arguments with you and leaves the house for hours. If he’s not hiding that he’s gay, he’s hiding something. And, that’s another story, another time, and another place child!
7.Look At His Walk. Does your dude walks too, too hard. So hard that it's noticeable. I mean y'all don't want your man to walk all gay like me. Cause, honey I sashes’ down the block like Naomi Campbell in the hood and what.
But anyway, what is the hard, hard walk for. Oh, I know, you think if you walk all hard and tough and all people won't think that you are gay. But, you don’t realize, your walk is just as noticeable as my Naomi walk. You can fool the people, but you can’t fool me child. Cause, I know what you are covering up with that walk. The only difference between us is. I have the out the closet I’m gay walk. And, you have the in the closet I’m on the down low walk. Whatever child.
6. He's Extremely Secretive. This sign is for all you parents out there. If you have a son who sneaks out the house a lot, and you rarely know his whereabouts most of the time. And mostly dudes call the house for him and he rarely talk about girls. Mama you done raised a Queen.
Basically, if you know nothing about your son lifestyle, it’s because he doesn’t want you to know. He doesn’t want you to know that he is gay, that’s why everything with him is a big secret. Most of this secret lifestyle starts to happen around the age of 15. By then most boys should know if they like girls or boys or both.
5. He Always Talks About How Chicks Want To Get At Him. But, in reality you never see him with none of the chicks. He's probably just saying them things to make you think he’s straight and to throw you off. In reality, all them chicks he talks about are really men. Okay....
4. He Hits And Beats On Women. I’m sorry, a real man does not hit a woman. But, a down low man will. Now, wait a minute some women do like getting a little roughed up, choked up, a little weave pulling during sex child. But that’s another story child. Another story, because I like that too girl.
I’m talking about those Ike and Tina Turner beatings. He's just trying to prove to the world that he is a heterosexual man. Knowing deep inside he is a big ol queen inside. Girl if your man is beating on you like that. Sister girl wake up, before it’s too late. True story!
3. He's Always Calling Somebody Else Gay. A dude that is just always he’s gay, he’s how u doin! He looks gay. He acts gay. He dresses gay. He walks gay. SHUT UP! You just want him to be gay, so you can have him. Stop calling everyone else gay and call the person who truly is gay and on the down low and that’s you. You big ol queen!
2. He Wants To Make Love From Behind. If your man always want to give it to you in your butt every time your have sex, and gets mad when you don’t want to put it in your butt. Girl, that’s a sign. Because child, if your man like poking you in the booty. What makes you think he wouldn’t mind poking me child?
Also, if your man likes for you to put fingers or your tongue around or in his booty hole, yeh he a freak girl, a bisexual down low freak. And I shouldn’t have to tell you this one. But, if your man likes for you to strap on a dildo and give it to him in his booty, girl you need to wake up. Or you don’t care. Okay, Star Jones whatever makes you happy child. Also, be caution if your man likes threesomes with you, him and another man. Not another girl, but another man. How u doin. ALL RIGHT!
1. He's Homophobic. Is your dude always angry with gay people for no reason. Does he always have something negative to say about gay people. Does every time he see a gay dude, he got to make a comment like chi chi man or boti boy or bullet, bullet. He is only saying these things to get the gay boy attention. Because deep inside he wants that gay boy or he wants to be free and happy like him. So he hates on the gay boy, because the gay boy can care less of what folks has to say about him and he’s going to be himself.
A real man will see a gay boy and say nothing. It’s always them dam down low ones who always got something to say. But to all my out the closet men, who have to deal with this. Ignore. Trust me. It’s the best medicine. But anyway, ladies be very caution if your man always got something to say about gay men. Cause behind close, close, close doors he’s probably bent over taking it better than you and me child.
PS. THERE ARE MANY MORE SIGNS OF A DOWN LOW MAN PART 2 IS COMING SOON. THESE SIGNS ARE JUST THE MOST OBVIOUS ONES.WE HAVENT EVEN GOTTEN INTO THE DOWN LOW MEN WHO DON’T EVEN MESS WITH OTHER STRAIGHT ACTING MEN, BUT THEY MESS WITH TRAN SEXUALS AND DRAGS. CHILD! ANYWAY, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO EMAIL ME AT THEGOODBIMBO@YAHOO.COM
Line up him and his butt pirates and break out da AR-15!!! DL men should have reps worse than rappers, but you'll never here mainstream media puttin them on blast....is it b/c they want Aids to kill off our community or b/c most of the mainstream media are f*gs???
what the fuk? why all these gay damn stories, that shyt is so damn lame... and shyt those rules can apply to your dude creeping with another woman it ain't just with another man, go sit in a damn hole MTO with this shyt...
I don't know, MTO...some of those signs are a lil out there. Really all you gotta do is watch the dude during sex. If he looks uncomfortable doing it to you or if he doesn't look you in your eyes while you are making love, then homeboy is gay. Really though if a dude is gay right, you will never know until you walk into your house and see your man and his mister getting it on in your bed
BIMBO is speaking truth, I believe him. Also I agree with "sexy93" this IS one of the main reasons why AIDS is so prevelent in our community and in black women. Pitiful. Thanks for sharing BIMBO, at least you out the closet and honest.
Some of those signs are probably on point. Don't be in denial. Especially the #2'wanting to hit it from the back and messing with buttholes'. So many girls be debating whether that is gay cause their man is doing it are wants that.
WOW THIS ISH IS THE TRUTH AND I KNOW A FEW MEN WHO HAVE MOST OF THESE SIGNS, AND MY BESTFRIEND FATHER IS ONE OF THEM. THANK GOD MY MAN OR FATHER DOESNT HAVE NOT ONE OF THESE SIGNS NOR I SUSPECT THEM OF BEING ON THE DL. LADIES WATCH YA MEN ESPECIALLY IF YOU SEE THESE SIGNS DONT PLAY YASELF AND WIND UP A DISEASE YA ASS CANT GET RID OF CUZ U BEING DUMB
My best friend is gay. Before he came out the closet his girlfriends used to complain to me about him. "He only wants to hit it from the back", "I can't take him around my gay family members cuz he gets so upset with them", "He left the house for hours and wouldn't tell me where he was"...every single sign on the list, he posessed...and now he is all the way out the closet, so i guess maybe there is some truth to it!
I really appreciate someone opening their mouth about this. No one wants to talk about it, but this type of behavior is killing us sistahs (literally). I have a cousin that is dying of aids because her husband of 15 years is on the DL. We need to open our eyes and take a look and antone that isn't looking has probably already seen the signs and doesn't want to face the facts.
Right Ro-Ro, gay men r the best friends. We get manicures and pedicures together, everything. We go shopping together. He will tell me in a minute if i look like a H.A.M...LOL.
I think women need to really take note on this. This AIDS crap ain't going nowhere and its the DL bammas that tryna live these 2 different lives. Come clean fellas, if u r u r. The most obvious sign is during sex. What man wants ANYONE is put their tongue in his butthole, that is just outa control nasty.
MTO shut the fuk up and leave black men alone!!!
@Strongblackwoman--i agree. i don't understand the gay stories today. who the hell is creating black america's reality?
yall allowing the white gay establishment to fuk with yall minds real good.
folks worried bout a handful of confused black men acting a fool, instead worrying bout the degenerating of black male female relationships!!!
how many non gay black men creapin around? how many non gay black woman creapin around? WE NEED TO CHECK OURSELVES FOR REAL!
I GUESS THE WEAPON OF MASS DISTRACTING IS WORKING WELL!!! NEXT!!!!
This is Stereotypical Bull$hit. You can't tell is a man is gay if he really doesn't want you to know, Black men are the best at hiding this, this thread is nothing more then a manual for them on what not to do. This is nothing more then a practiced skill for them.
I knew a older dude that acted like he was mentally challenged, I really though this dude was slow but, the fool had money, property nice Benz. Come to find out, acting metally slow was his cover.
I know some of you loyal fans of negativity are going to try & give me the business about this but Fuc Yall, I know how I am & it aint Tinker-Bell.
To Sexy93: this is not why Aids is "so out of f*cking control", as a matter of fact you talk like only GAY people had and pass on the Aids epidemic...Aids my dear is out of control, because some mf and b*tches like to sleep around without using condoms wether knowing the have the virus or not..you still should wrap it up and ladies should not go for that..."i don't have anything bs", and vice versus for me.
Women should take what “BIMBO” says seriously because it's true. A friend of a friend's ex-roommate was a DL brother. You would never know by looking at him, or even talking to him, but he was very macho and hyper-masculine. And he used to always talk about f@gs this and f@gs that. He used to have lots of friends because he throw really good parties. He came from money so he always had top of the line everything at his parties, which attracted many people. My friends and I found out that he was DL because we kept running into him and a former DL brother turn openly gay man hanging out together looking like a couple, eventually they became roommates. After a while he didn't care that certain people knew, but he continued to date lots of women. And he often would brag to people about the women he slept with and his one night stands. We got completely disgusted with him, and we stop talking to him, and we stop going to his parties. Recently I ran into him on the streets and he introduced me to his new girlfriend, and I was speechless, debated in my mind if I should say something, but I couldn't saying anything, and felt bad about it.
MEET AS MANY OF HIS FRIENDS, FRIENDS OF FRIENDS AND ex-ROOMMATES AS POSSIBLE before sleeping with the guy.
SOME OPENLY GAY MEN WILL LET YOU KNOW WHO IS DL BECAUSE BI-SEXUAL MEN ARE LOOK DOWN ON IN THE GAY COMMUNITY, SO SOME OPENLY GAY PEOPLE HAVE NO PROBLEM OUTING THEM, BUT SOME DON'T WANT TO SNITCH ON THEM. I USED TO INTRODUCE NEW BOYFRIENDS TO A CLOSE OPENLY GAY FRIEND FOR THAT REASON.
what they've posted is true. and mto WOULD know, you neyo jockers. but #10 should be #1. go to a club and let a lil kim or beyonce song come on. there will be 50 dudes who will beat your ass if you try to make it to the dance floor before them. beyonce is like the president for gay men. she's way over the top, her whole team is gay (her real stylist, and choreographer) and that's why she stands out as an entertainer (other than talent). she entertains. and if you say something negative about her, a gay man will get you together before a female fan would.
and i agree w/ texas, this IS common sense. but i know that most people don't want to know the truth. there's a large amount of women who are attracted to gay men. for what reason i don't know. but look at terry mcmillan, she knew, she just wanted A MAN. how many women would give prince some? a lot. a dumb choice, but true. another sign should be arched eyebrows and timbs in the summertime.
I believe each of these signs is true also. I've got a man to get rid of... :o) And about the gay friend, they are like sisters...ur best sister, but they also scope your man so beware! I've got a friend who has told me after I ended relationships that he was attracted to my men. At the time I laughed it off, but I take that serious now cuz he's still in the closet doing some funky-dunky sh*t with random men behind closed doors!
lmao at Locktress, but child those rules apply to anyone not just gay men, or dl men, but to women who man might be cheating with another woman, lol, and I agree Locktress you only know what people want you to know fuk those damn signs...
(LOL, I can't believe that I'm about to share this!)
I was in an LDR years ago, and I went to visit my him in his hometown. I booked a room at a hotel to stay while I visited, and my friend, who picked me up at the airport, drove me to my room. WELL...................
As I was unpacking my suitcase and kinda looking around the room at the decor, amenities, view outside, etc. I noticed that my friend was in the bathroom long enough to be noticably absent, and he was too quite.
I asked him what was taking him so long in there, and he said that he wanted to show me something. Curiously perplexed, I walked around the corner to the bathroom entrance, and there he was, STANDING THERE BUCK-NAKED HEAD-TO-TOE.........TUCKED!
My initial reaction was to crack up and laugh, because honestly, I was so taken aback, I didn't know how else to react, or what to say. Then he proceeded to turn around, bend over to show me the "hidden jewels".
I was so utterly grossed out that I never looked at him the same since. My thoughts were, he's HAD TO HAVE thought of this before to be able to want to show me, what's worst is that somehow, he felt comfortable enough with me to do something like this in front of me.
No, forget what you've heard. I don't don't need to psycho-analyze a man to know if he has tendencies. My "gay-dar" goes off just like one of those little buzzers do when you're waiting to be seated at a resturant.
AAWWWWWWWWWWWwwwwwwww, HELP MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!
I don't know, these signs are some good ones to look for. I've been with my man for 5 years now and he likes to have anal sex with me, its not all the time but he does enjoys it (sign 1) and almost everyman that I talk to that is str8 say that they like it too (if they've tried it b4). Sometimes when we're in the heat of the moment, I lick my man's booty hole and he likes for me to stick my tongue in it, lol (ok i know this sounds nasty but, sign 2 i guess). Also we have got into a few fights and he has hit me like a man (like punch me in the face and slap me in the mouth, sign 3). Last but not least, I'm currently pregnant and he's been asking me to let him G me (3sum, gang bang, run a train,etc.) with another man after I have the baby but I refuse. He gets man sometimes cuz I keep say NO. At first we wanted to have a 3sum w/another female but I said NO to that too, then he start asking me to find another female to watch as have sex. Soon all them request ceased and he start asking about G'ing me. WHAT IN THE HELL SHOULD I DO CUZ MY MAN HAS TOO MANY SIGNS ON THAT LIST!!!!!! I DON'T THINK HE'S ON THE DL, BUT THE TONGUE IN THE BOOTY HOLE AND THE 3SUM WITH THE OTHER MAN GOT ME CURIOUS NOW. WHAT SHOULD I DO PPL???!!!!
LOL LOL LOL LOL
this shit is funny too me
some of yall females act like yall are just ready to say all Black Men are Gay LOL and some wonder why they are single you still on the damn computer all day talkin about who you think is gay
now I will say this, I am somewhat Homophobic that shit don't make me f*ckin game, it is just somethin I don't agree with but that does not mean I will go around just pickin on a gay person for no reason like some n*ggas do it is not that serious, figuring out if a n*gga is fruity should not be that f*ckin hard, what it is some females fall in love with a guy and they see all the signs and hints but yet they force themselfs not to believe it because they be so in love with that DL n*gga
put it like this females shit when you meet a man now you might as well make that one of the first questions you ask him some niggas may get offended but oh well LOL
lmao at Lis but I'm a little slow cuz I don't get it, having a blonde moment, like what did he do? lol
Bmo4rmatl you literally made me spit my water all over my computer! are you serious? man loose that dude, something ain't mentally right about dude! Cuz my hubby won't allow me in that area, lol, but on the real I ain't going to call a dude gay because they like anal, think about it, what's better than tight stuff? an anal hole is tight so it is squeezing the dude thing, so of course he is going to like it... I just don't think anal is medically correct, lol, I don't see how a dingdong can get in it, when it hurt sometimes for shyt to come out... so I can personally try it but I won't call a dude gay cuz he like it back there, but I will say I will question one who ask me to suck his booty hole...lol
My homegirl dude like for her to stick her finger in his ahole, and I told her that is not normal sexual practices lol!
I grew up very open-minded, and I've seen some crazy things.
Thing is about gay men that heterosexual men don't understand is that, THEY DON'T WANT YOU! a gay man knows his own kind, the same way you know that someone is ethnic, no matter how fair-skinned they are.
Gay men don't want to risk all that can happen by coming onto a straight guy, knowing there's a chance he may even be killed!
As far as finding out if I guy I'm dating is gay, I'd be hurt if he blatantly decieved me, but you have just as much of a chance catching HIV from a straight-man. I wouldn't be too hurt for long, because deep down inside, I know "that's" not about me as a woman, but more about his issues with his own sexuality.
cosign with lis but I still dont' get your personal story the dude came out the bathroom tucked and then showed you his jewels I dont' get it....
Oh and trust me a woman's intuition is strong best believe and if something ain't right you better go by that gut...
Yo Bimbo really needs to stop! HE(?) stays callin up Wendy Williams show with some gay ish but he kinda brought up some good points; femalez it's a new damn world full of freaks and gay and down low motherfathers out there. Be like the Trojan man and have protection.
But yo Sicko, I cosign with you homey. Like I don't believe in that gay ish, but just because a dude got some sugar in his tank I'm not gonna go clap him like other dudes do either. And ladies, if a "man" hit you, best believe that bastard is more Queen than you ever will be!!!
Bmo4rmatl......from what you said I think ya man like sugar in his coffee if u catch my drift....
OH and don't forget the "dick-in-a-box" sign,
ladies, I would like to add that a very good sign that your man may be gay is if you walk in on him and catch him with his mouth stuffed with dick. That's when you should start wondering and maybe question him.
I can't believe MTO forgot this one.
STRONGBLACKWOMAN- Alot of times we disagree but I have to agree with you 100% on this one.. Alot of those signs are men that are creeping with another woman..
Let me guess if a woman spends all that time on the phone with her BFF she is gay too right.. There are people out there that HATE GAYS not because they are DL but because they truly believe it is a sin against GOD..
BIMBO your name suits you well cuz you are for damn sure STUPID...
If you told me something I didn't know I would have believed what you said but this shyt holds no weight..
SMURF said it best: IF HE IS REALLY ON THE DL YOU WOULD NEVER KNOW!!!
That's what I was sayin' StrongBlackWoman...especially #8...ANY scum bag does that....What loser doesn't start a fight so that he can get angry and leave to go screw his girl on the side....you don't have to be gay to do that...
Lis - sorry but you are wrong on this one, my ex HUSBAND was on the down low (low down as I like to say). I know this for a fact, and I had a best friend who was also on the down low - TRUST ME THEY LOVVVEEEE STRAIGHT men - and straight men "secretly" will fool with them. I've seen it first hand.
For one it's an "ego boost" for the down low man - to say that I can even have "your man" -
My down low friend used to strictly go for "married men" that he knew were unhappy and he'd try to convert them.
The wives NEVER suspected anything but you'd be surprised how e-z it is for a straight man to accept a blow job from a gay man. Once he likes it - things take off from there.
For bmo4rmatl - thanks for sharing your story - I have to say I believe your man is definitley on the down lo. My ex-HUSBAND was on the down lo and during our marriage i just couldn't see it, but once we got divorced it all came out - I caught him red handed - and it ALL MADE PERFECT SENSE.
I've also dated a couple also. They are usually very freaky in the bedroom - waning threesomes (WITH A MAN) - they always want oral sex, but don't want to return the favor - and if THEY TRY to eat you - they don't do it right....
They do want some type of anal stimulation too - or they like to lick your a/sshole instead of eating you....
TRUST YOUR GUT - unbelievable as it may be. I knew someone on the down low and hom and his wife had like 8 KIDS!!!!
**NOTE**IF YOUR MAN IS ON THE DOWN LOW HE WILL NEVERRRRRRRRRR ADMIT IT - you have to either catch him in the act - or just know that you are not crazy.
Hopefully, you'll NEVER have this happen to you, BUT.....
When a guy stands in front of you, buck-naked and tucked, he puts his penis and scrotum between his legs. That man stood there in front of me with his legs crossed just like he had a little hairy cooch.
Then when he turned around and bent over, you could see his "jewels" (nutsack)resting in the crack of his behind. NOT A PRETTY SIGHT!!!!
Also, you can't "convert" a straight man into homosexuality. He either already had deep-rooted tendencies to begin with, or has been just using the marriage as a fake beard, so that he could be accepted in society. Have his cake and eat it too, so to speak.
Nah, let a gay man come on to any of the straight men I know and see what happens. They would be killed for real!
I think the world is going to burn over. WTF is going on black America? What once dominated as the most masculan male race has now traded in the power tools for some for the pom poms. All this fruit-booty faggotism disgusts me.
LOL @ lovethamedia!!! ROTFL @ Full-Nelson. Ahahahahahaaa!!! I wish a muggafugga would punch me in the mouth like I'm a man! I would scratch the hell outta him then be out, finally call po-po on his azz then end the whole sitch with a restraining order!
i guess the truth hurts cause theres some angry MoFo's up in here all the sudden....all those signs are right on the money ya'll. Those of you who refuse to see the light yo az.zes will be left in the dark...ALONE. the one about he & his homeboy ALWAYS kickin it real tight together is right on the money...thats the easiest sign out there.
& Lis--i dont know about "converting" a str8 man into being gay but you can sho nuff entice him so that he is curious & at some point & time will try the sh*t out. trust babygurl, ive seen it happen.
i dont date downlow guys anymore cuz i dont get w/ nig.gaz who got g/f's or wives. but i date them discreet brothas who you would never really know was gay & who in the past have dated women &/or been married or engaged. so i know all about this stuff.
@bmo...honey don't be played! Run, get out and don't look back! (call me and I'll be downstairs with the car running and shank in the pack pocket;)!!
But on the real I had a boy who was straight hetero who enjoyed his a** played, licked or whatever. Never knew him to like me loved women. His girl turned him out and after 7years in a monogomous relationship he found himself masturabating with a dildo in his a** cause he missed that loving feeling. He said that he enjoyed it but didn't want to have a man do it because he's repulsed by the idea. So does that make him gay because one of his errogenous zones happens to be in the a**??? Hmm?? help a sista figure this one out people.
I believe you prettyboi. These women are in denial because they are afraid that all the hetero men are turning gay thus leaving them single for life. I'm single too, but I aint scared to hear and know the TROOF! Knowing protects me. And I tend to believe the guys that are actually LIVING this lifestyle. This isht is deep.
Wow @ bmo4rmatl, I don't know whether to tell you to fun as fast as you can from the relationship (because u r pregnant, right?)or do the 3sum, just to see what goes down. Either way, that can't be me. First of all the beating itself, is a complete no no. Second, I don't do the "salad thingy"(to each is own), my question is....why is he so amused with the whole butt effect? Did you bring this into the relationship, or was this his idea, if you did introduce him to the butt game, then I blame you for turning him out, lol...I mean, it's not funny or anything, because he's putting his hands on you, but you do have a choice. As far as him wanting that all the damn time, I think you have should be questioning him big time.
To people making comments like 'If he's really on the DL, u won't know' are crazy. Yeah some u won't know about it, but everyone can't pull off being a DL brother without anyone finding out or him messing up. Why do u think some DL men get caught? Regardless if Bimbo's list are for women or not, it can still tell u signs that you are in a healthy relationship period. And bmo4rmatl-u need to run away from your man asap! Especially if he hit u-that's not cool. I don't care if he's gay or not, don't be letting no man hit u.
MTO-First time I have ever commented bout anything you guys post in 2 years. Aint shyt down low bout me except my ankles and knees !! Gay men are sick bastards. Yep, I am homophobic, glad to admit. Aint Shyt right bout a man phukin a man, period, I said it, I'm sure others will. Stop using reverse psychology. Someone needs to speak out against Gay bastards.. Dont try to make me to be Gay cuz I said something.GAY MEN ARE SICK BASTARDS! And trust me, I aint close to being GAY!!! Your so called Down Low list is BULLSHYT. And for the record, DOWN LOW bastards are GAY also, SICK PHUKS !!!!
The biggest debate about homosexuality is whether or not you were born that way or not. Some say ppl CHOOSE that type of lifestyle, therefore, it's wrong and you can change.
Others argue that homosexuality is genetic, or you were born that way, therefore you can't control whom you're physically attracted to.
My thing is this, I feel it's impossible for a man to "convert" a straight man in a gay lifestyle because I feel if he goes that far, he apparently has SOME tendencies to begin with. Maybe he IS curious, but once you go as far as engaging in a sexual act with another man, are you still considered straight?
I don't know, but I believe homosexuals are born that way. I think there are a lot of beautiful women in the world, but would I get with one? No. Could a woman ever "convert" me, not a chance!
This has always been an issue as far as men, but if you can be "turned out", how many women out there feel this could happen to you? Just a thought....
Your story was very interesting, but I feel you have bigger issues in your relationship besides a "DL" man.
You are about to become a mother, and your mate wants you to engage in gangbangs, trains, etc. after the baby arrives. I'm concerned about the environment of your relationship with this man once the baby arrives. That doesn't look like a healthy situation you're in.
I hope you will work out what's best for you and family once the baby's here.
prettyboi post your email addy I gotta ask you sumfin, too long to type here. Let's just say it involves a guy who is a Mason, I heard they have been known to be "how u doin". We need to talk. Email me: email@example.com
Girl get out quick!!!!! I would hate to see this man pass you and/or your baby a STI...HIV is so high amongst our community these days....it has a lot to do with these "Down Low brothas"...
And on top of all that, he's hitting you!!!! You are a Queen and you should be treated no less! I say GET OUT OF THAT RELATIONSHIP!
bmo4rmatl, you get the dumb bi**h of the year award. You are the reason men think they can dog out all women. You are also a sad example for black women, I feel no compassion for you because of your blatant stupidity. I hope you don't sleep with anyone else and contaminate others like this FAG is contaminating you. I also hope that you are joking and not serious. If serious go get counseling immediately azzhole!!!! You must be one ugly MF'er to let someone dog you like that.
Aaaaw come on ad26. I don't think it's fair to judge this woman. We don't know what kind of life she's gone through. I just hope and pray because a baby is coming into this, that she has enough ppl to support her in a positive way, no matter what the outcome is.
She needs all the mental and emotional support/strenghth she can get. Just take care of YOU, B!
some of the that stuff really hit the nail on the head. I've been around a few guys that has some ot those syptoms. I'm not going to question them about their sexuality because guys have been my friends since we was lil kids so we've all become to love each other like brothers and sisters. But all that shyt is true and i'm pretty sure theres a lot more we just don't know.
Lis I'm with you, at first I was so against homosexuality cuz I'm like who would choose such a lifestyle, then I met my best friend who I watch pray and cry everyday cuz she couldn't help she was so attracted to women, so I started to think its deeper than that, cuz she made a good point, who the hell will want a life in which they are ridiculed and looked down on by their loved ones and everyone else, and want to live in a country who spit on you every chance they get, so I definitely think it has something to do with Birth.
I personally am not attracted to women sexually nor have I ever had any gay curiousity. I can never imagine a woman touching me like that, never, they do nothing for me. And I have been to gay clubs, parties, etc. You name it I been there, and not one flinch in my bone will want another chick... now I do call other women beautiful etc. But I call it like I see it, but they don't turn me on at all...
aiight mzzlisha75, ill hit u up. i hope i can answer yo question cuz i dont know too much about Masons but i know alot about fraternitys. all them secret male societys ya'll thats another one!
Lis--how people become gay is a answer im not sure anyone will ever really know because i dont think it happens any one way. i think there are various ways men & women become gay--birth, early introduction, late introduction, molesting, curiousity, rejection from the opposite sex, prison--who knows? i have asked alot of guys when did they discover they liked men and i have heard every answer you could imagine & theyre all different.
DJTONYLOVE--you need to re-read rule #1 REAL HARD homie. you tellin us more than u think.
Here's another....Have you ever seen a real attractive dude...with that "alternative look" (Head rag twisted into a bun, popped collar polo shirt, thumb ring, or those cleaned up eyebrows) and hes with the baddest chick or a white girl. Thats when your "gay-dar" should go up! LOL Dont sleep on those dude with all those pieceings. (Eyebrow, top of the ear, even those nipples) Dont sleep on em ladies. Most of the time, the white chicks dont care. In fact most white girls will still mess with a black dude, even if he tells her that hes gay. For those who mess around with those black pretty girls...theyre just a cover up, pretending like they don't know what's up; those girls know!
PRETTYBOI-Rule #1 is pure bullshit. It is there for that reason, so that peeps like me that call a spade a freakin spade, some how, you try to link us in with this HOMO shyt.. Clever, but none the less bullshit. Some of us just dont like the the Gay crap. It's repulsive, that doesnt make me GAY or DL, just honest...what in the hell has happened to my brothers, we used to be strong motherphukers...now this dumb ass DL-GAY shyt, where the phuck is the African American Male going with this crap ???? This is setting us back 100 years !!!!
Yep SInce1980---thats another clue. Too groomed up & shyt, that metrosexual look. Nig.gaz lookin as pretty if not better than the girl! & this is also true that a white girl will date a brotha thats bi & shyt & think its cute. Shyt she usually bi her own self.
I have absolutely no convictions to those that are in a gay lifestyle. However, if you try to invade or deliberately decieve me into something that I wouldn't be comfortable with, then that's disrespectful, and that's what makes it hard for others to respect and embrace alternative lifestyles.
I have nothing against Gay men because they always got money and they Party all year long in different states, I am just trying to find out HOW they are always on every set dressed to the 9's?? Like when do they work?? LOL!!
Lis--both of those answers im not sure about & gay guys will flame me hard for saying that i dont think they are born that way. i dunno cuz i dont remember that far back myself. But some people will say they were becuz being gay is the first thing they remember. As for choosing to be gay--NO. i dont belive anyone chooses being gay. if anything you choose at some point to accept it & be OK with it but thats all you get as far as choice. if anything it chooses you. I think there are many avenues that are taken in peoples lives that make homosexuality something they end up doing. I know a guy who told me he jus got bored w/ str8 sex & wanted to try something different. he was goodlkg & had been hit on by men for yrs & never was interested until one day. ALotta guys who are freaky deaky lady killers eventually have done everything & then some w/ women get curious about men, then boom--they out there harder than anyone. its like the last taboo for some people & that alone makes them wonder.
But i saw something on 20/20 recently that shocked the hell out of me--kids 3, 4 & 5 yrs old wanting to change their sex!! this was real as hell i even called my mom to watch that. now where do that come from? did anyone see that?? as a gay person i was blwon away by that. & these kids were DEAD SEIOUS ya'll. & some of them looked so much like the opposite sex that it blew your mind. now where do that come from??? birth? did somebody tell them to do that? where they around too many women or men? TV images? i do not know.
@ Lis and StrongBlackWoman
you know what, I just took a Human Growth and Development class and it covered the topic of homosexuality. It did make me mad because in this class they say that homosexuality is inherited and is your genetic make-up and that there is nothing you can do about it. In this class they said around age 7 you will begin to realize that you are gay...man I hated that class but I needed the credit...They talked about a study amongst homosexual from age 18 - 25...I don't remember the percentages they gave, but in the study it was found that a lot of homosexual men and women were depressed and tried suicide. They also said that the majority of this test group were depressed due to being rejected by friends and family.
I empathize with your friend that was upset due to her homosexual tendencies.
My sister is gay. She doesn't care now but when it all started up my mom tripped HARD. She didn't even let my sister come to the house anymore. AND she couldn't eat off of any of my mom's dishes nor use any silvereware....
So I empathize with the rejection, it's sad. But I don't empathize with the sin aspect of it...
So has anyone ever thought about Donnie McClurkin's testimony? I am glad that he has that testimony. For those that don't know he says that he was delivered from it and is THANKFUL TO GOD!!!!! There's more to that testimony though!
THOSE SIGNS ARE ON POINT, MY EX IS GAY, HE HAS NEVER ADMITTED IT, BUT I PUT 2 AND 2 TOGETHER, SO LET ME PUT YALL UP ON SOME OF THE SIGNS I GOT FROM HIM... THE "BEST FRIEND" THAT HE WAS ALWAYS WITH, DIDN'T LIKE ME, HE WOULD ACT LIKE IT BUT ONE TIME HE CALLED HIS (MY EX) PHONE AND I ANSWERED I TOLD HIM TO HOLD ON, THE PHONE WAS ON SPEAKER AND I HEARD HIM SAY I HATE WHEN THAT BITCH ANSWER HIS PHONE, MIND YOU I WAS NICE WHEN I ANSWERED CAUSE I ASSUMED WE WERE COOL.......
ALSO MY NUMBER GOT ERASED OUT OF MY EX PHONE IT WAS LOGGED IN UNDER "WIFEY" AFTER NUMEROUS FIGHTS AND ARGUMENTS ABOUT THIS, HE FINALLY BROKE DOWN AND SAID HIS "BEST FRIEND" DID IT, AND HE DOESN'T KNOW WHY, I CAN TELL HE WAS TELLING THE TRUTH CAUSE IT SEEMED LIKE IT KILLED HIM TO SAY THAT...
ALL THIS INCLUDING PUTTING ON ONE OF MY SKIRTS AS I WAS GETTING READY FOR WORK, SPANKING HIS BOOTY AND DANCING TO BEYONCE SONG NAUGHTY GIRL, AT FIRST I THOUGHT IT WAS TO MAKE ME LAUGH... AND REVEALING TO ME THAT HE HAS HAD THREESOMES WITH A GIRL AND ANOTHER GUY.... I KNOW YALL THINKING THAT IS BLATANT, BUT WHEN YOUR IN LOVE IT REALLY ISN'T YOU DON'T REALIZE IT UNTIL ALL IS SAID IS DONE, WE WERE TOGETHER FOR 2 YEARS.... I COULD GO ON ON WITH THE THINGS THAT SEEMED SUSPICIOUS IN HIND SIGHT... BUT IF YOUR MAN IS TRUST YOU WILL KNOW, WITH THESE HELPFUL TIPS YOU'LL KNOW SOONER THEN LATER...
I saw that same feature! Which led me to question if it is a matter of choice or genetics. Do you suppose that the ones that get "introduced" to homosexuality at a young age, was conveying an unconscious message that they have that "gene" in their bio?
If more gay ppl would, or shall I say, be allowed to express more of this to heteros(society as a whole) w/o being judged, you think it's one step closer to understand this whole thing?
I will have to agree with my brother prettyboi because i feel him 100% on that....
HELL MTO YALL COULD HAVE ASKED ME TO WRITE THIS AND MORE CAUSE YALL KNOW THAT I KNOW HOW TO CLOCK ALL KINDS OF GAY NIGGAS, BUT ON TOP OF ALL THIS, THERE IS STILL SOME SHIT THAT IS KEPT SO LOCK AND KEY, YOU REALLY HAVE TO BE CAREFUL.. I AM SURE MY BROTHER PRETTYBOI WILL BACK ME UP ON THIS BUT WHEN IT COMES TO GUYS THAT REALLY WANT TO KEEP THEIR SHIT ON LOCK, THERE ARE SOME THAT YOU WOULD NEVER, EVER, EVER, EVER, THINK TWICE ABOUT IT. PEOPLE WILL SAY THAT I AM TRYING TO TURN EVERYONE OUT, BUT NIGGAS WILL RUN A GOOD GAME TO KEEP THEIR DESIRES AT A HUSH.. IF YOU GUYS LOOK BACK IN SOME OLD VIBE ISSUES WITH BRANDY, AALIYAH, AND BLU CANTRELL ON THE COVER, MY HOME GIRL HERE MIMI VALDES BROKE DOWN THE AREAS OF DL THINGS THAT GO UNCLOCKED VERY WELL. I THINK A LOT OF WOMEN NEED TO BE BROUGHT UP TO SPEED BECAUSE WHEN I SAY THESE DL SEX PARTIES IN NEW YORK ARE OFF THE CHAIN, I HAVE SEEN JA RULE, METHOD MAN AND RED MAN AT ONE... WE GOTTA STOP BEING BLIND AND REALLY LOOK INTO THE SHIT NIGGAS TEND TO DO AND PUT UP A FRONT STREET. THERE ARE TOO MANY CHICKS OUT HERE WHO WOULD FIGHT TO THE END FOR THEIR MAN AND WOULD NEVER THINK HE WOULD FUCK WITH A DUDE, BUT TRUTH BE TOLD, THE OBVIOUS SIGNS ARE A LOT OF TIMES AND YOU MIGHT HAVE TO DO SOME INSPECTOR GADGET TYPE SHIT TO BE AT EASE......
I was reading about a case study once that siblings that are born after a male sibling, whether female or male, are more likely to have potential homosexual tendencies. Have you heard anything about this?
It's sounds so far-fetched, but that's what they said. I'm going to see if I can get some "google" on it.
number 1 sign your man is on the DL
1. If he has been to prison
2. If he has been to prison
3. If he has been locked up
4. If he goes on extended fishing trips/or to Vegas with the boys
girls don't get it twisted cuz yo man acting all hard cuz he just got out and want to sling some meat your way. he been slinging it and receiving it behind bars. wake up girls. why ya'll think AIDS is ravaging the black female population? Now how U doin? this has nothing to do with demeaning my black brothas. just stop sticking yo d!ick in other peoples a-holes and taking it back to your woman.
gqswazey and prettyboi,
Thank you for your insights and KEEPING IT REAL on this topic. I don't have a problem with gays, but I do have a problem with men (and women) who are not honest with themselves and their love ones.
I think all women can learn ALOT from our gay male friends and we need to use our common sense. Let me just say, all black men are NOT DL and women should not give up on finding a mate.
PrettyBoi, kill that noise I am an Omega, and not to say there are not Gay men in represented in Omega Psi Phi, but I have not met any. Part of my chapter was an oath of honesty (I come from the Beta Psi chapter at Clark University. That oath comes from the brotherhood. I can't speculate on other frats becase I have heard and seen some questionable things. I will say this Mason's are generally Omega's. That is the next step, and the brotherhood get's a little deeper and more secretive, that's a step I won't take because I know my history, and original Mason's were anti-black (another issue, another day. I also have to digress with the issues of looking good. (Yeah I'm Bragging) I am a nice looking dude, not by my standards but by women, many of my ex-girlfriends said I liked staying in the mirror more than them, oh well. I think looking good makes you feel good, play good, have more fun, etc. I think if you are in a fraternity the frat didn't make you gay, you were already gay. My opinion, people are born gay, I don't want to rag on other frats, but quite possibly the secret in some frats is being a closet homosexual, and that maybe a recruiting point.
od26 the kappas on fsu campus oh my gosh we swear some of them got some sugar in their tank and it don't have anything to do with them being pretty boys its more with their tight short shorts and the way they walk and stuff it just don't look right lol...
I TOO WEN TTO COLLEGE IN THE AT THE HOUSE.. AS IN MOREHOUSE, SO YOU KNOW THAT I KNOW THE REAL DEAL.... WHEN IT COMES TO FRATS IN THE ATL, THERE IS A LOT OF DL SHIT THAT GOES ON. NOW I DO NOT KNOW OF ANY IN YOUR CHAPTER, BUT I KNOW OF SEVERAL KAPPAS THAT GO TO CLARK AND HAVE GONE THAT WERE ON THE DL AND EVEN WENT TO THE GAY CLUBS IN ATL. AND FOR THE RECORD, THE KAPPAS ARE THE PRETTY BOYS, NOT YALL.. LET US BE CLEAR.. YALL HAVE A FEW CUTE MEMBERS, BUT THAT IS NOT YALL MAIN MO... ANYWAY, MOST FRATS IN THE ATL HAVE SOME SHIT THAT IS FUNNY, NOT AS A WHOLE ALL THE TIME BUT MEMBERS THAT JOIN TO BE SAFE FROM THE WORLD'S COMMENTS AND THOUGHTS OF THEM.... ESPECIALLY AT GA STATE..... IF I WERE GRIMY, I WOULD CALL NAMES BUT I WONT DO SUCH. THIS IS NOT NEW.. SOME GUYS HAVE LOW ESTEEM AND JOIN GROUPS LIKE THIS TO BE APART OF SOMETHING AND THEN HIDE THEIR SHIT FROM THEIR BROTHERS BECAUSE THEY WILL BE LOOKED DOWN UPON AND THAT WE BOTH KNOW IS REAL TALK!!!!
Well, this doesn't prove he's cheating on you with a man.....a lot of it can be attributed to him cheating with a woman. Furthermore, with the homophobic thing....well, some guys really ARE homophobic. If my husband showed that he actually LIKED gay men, hell, THEN I'd be scared! I wouldn't penalize him because he called someone gay. Also, there is no fool proof way of knowing whether or not your man is DL. A DL man on this forum will read this and just change up his stradegy. J.L. King who wrote that book about life on the DL didn't have ANY of the characteristics above, yet, he stated alot of what this Bimbo person has. So DL's will air another DL man's laundry, but not their own.
@ Lis-u said "Do you suppose that the ones that get "introduced" to homosexuality at a young age, was conveying an unconscious message that they have that "gene" in their bio?"
I believe u hit it right on the nail. No gay person wants to believe they 'chose' that lifestyle because "they've been gay since they were a child." The thing is they saw that behavior somewhere before...and it could very well have been when they were as young as 3 or 4. So growing up, it's easy to say they didn't 'choose' it when in reality, that 'experience' or 'feeling' they had when they were a child was actually a choice they were making at an early age cause it was more attractive or comfortable to them. I believe God can get rid of that behavior like he did with Donnie McClurkin. It's just that it's so hard for gays to believe that because that means they can actually change...which is something that will probably scare them because that means it's actually not "who they are". I hope i don't offend anybody.
That Donnie McClurkin story is a mess. How are you going to go from being a bottom or some flaming queen to str8. That goes the same for all the others who claim that they have been delivered from homosexuality. GIVE IT UP.
Im just going to say it like this and let this be for the record. If I had a choice, I wouldn’t be gay. Who wants to be ridiculed about being gay. As a kid, I’ve prayed many of nights to be str8 and for whatever reason that didn’t happened. Mind you, I did say as a kid. I just didn’t wake up as an adult and said I’m gay. Both of my parents are str8 and my first gay experience was kissing a guy in the first grade that was in my class. Of course I’ve been with women but that was just a cover up to make those in my family happy or to divert suspicion. My point is that there is no choice. Of course you have some of those who are curious. I have plenty of (so called) str8 friends who want to try what its like to mess with somebody of the same sex. For some strange reason most of which are females. There have been a few males who have told me that there have been curiosity but those are men who are comfortable with themselves and don’t care what people think about them. But then again you have some who want to mess around with the same sex because of financial gain. I have a friend that she tells me that she’s str8 and would only mess with a stud or a girl who looks like a dude only if they have money. Of course she claims that she wouldn’t want to mess around with the girl. Are you serious? A stud is not about to break you off if your not being broken into to! I know its a lot of ya'll saying, "DAMN HE MUST KNOW ME, HE GOTTA BE TALKING ABOUT ME! "
As far as the whole DL thing…Give it up. I know you young boys that say (you gay guys are going to h8 me for this) but I hate when they say, “Oh yeah, Im messing around with a DL nigah or str8 niggah.” Yeah okay, he aint st8 if hes messing with you (that niggah has been around for years) and hes not on the DL anymore…because you told me and Im about to tell somebody else…lol
GOT DAM YOU BLACK WOMEN ARE SOME STUPID CREATURES YOU GONNA LISTEN TO THIS FREAK??? I WILL TELL YOU HOW YOU CAN TELL IF YOUR MAN IS GAY....IF YOU KISS HIM IN HIS MOUTH AND IT TASTES LIKE BABY JUICE HE IS GAY LMAO!!
Amen since21980...sounds like pure bs! It killed me when he said he stopped, went back and stoped again? So what now...you about due for a damn relapse every 5-10 years??? Puhleez
And when I watch those gospel shows...man o man...that choir is full of fudgepacking DL brothers. I ain't discriminating but keep it real!
Wasn't Kirk also dipping too???(just asking don't be mad)
Timbs in the summertime is a dead giveaway. i just have to laugh when i see a brotha wearing timbs in 90 degree weather trying to look thug. lol. DL bros are dressing like thugs with the whole thug act trying to cover their stuff.
You've just confirmed the point I was trying to make about gay men "converting" straight men.
Come on ppl, true heterosexual men cannot be converted. If he "takes it there" he's had the tendencies within him all along. JMO
Females...Do u think your man is gay or u think he messes around? Check his computer or laptop. Go to that internet history. If you see...Men4men dot com or adam4adam dot com or blackgaychat dot com. You might want to browse that My Space too. BUT if you see EROS dot com. BEWARE he's into a whole nother' league.
Timb have nothing to do with being on the DL or gay. It just means that they have no sense of fashion. WHO WEARS BOOTS IN THE SUMMERTIME but corn fed country boy or the dudes on the east coast… they wear those Timbs year round. BUT if you see a dude wearing those knee high Timbs...thats when you should say, "Hold up...that negro is gay!"
oh my gosh lis, the last cover of ebony or essence him and his wife was on, the interview he talked about it... I just can't get those magazines straight... but yep he was addicted to porn...and I must been under a rock cuz I didnt' know donnie dude was gay...
2 Corinthians 12:9 KJV
7 And lest I should be exalted above measure through the abundance of the revelations, there was given to me a thorn in the flesh, the messenger of Satan to buffet me, lest I should be exalted above measure.
8For this thing I besought the Lord thrice, that it might depart from me.
9 And he said unto me, My grace is sufficient for thee: for my strength is made perfect in weakness. Most gladly therefore will I rather glory in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me.
I posted this because I just wanted to share what the word of God says. I especially wanted to share this with strongblackwoman concerning her friend. I don't know you or your friend or if you even believe in God but if you can, please share those scriptures with her? As I was walking to get my lunch I really thought about your friend...
ALL of MTO:
God knows that we all have struggles and EVERYONE on this planet has an issue. However our struggles are different. Everyone is not attacked with the same thing. My fight may be with sex while another person might have issues with drugs..I don't do drugs so there wouldn't be a struggle there, but I am celibate so I fight DAILY with my flesh on this....but the point I am trying to make is that God's grace is sufficient for us all and works best when we are at our weakest point. For when WE are weak He is Strong! But please understand that God's Grace is not a free pass to go out and sin!!!!
Do you doubt that he has been delivered from Homosexuality or do you doubt God's power being strong enough to deliver him from Homosexuality? I just didn't understand where your doubt lied.
My God is mighty to save and mighty to deliver!!!! He's delivered me alone from so much! So this is proven in my life.
***And I am not trying to take anyone to church or "preach" because I am no preacher. But I will speak the truth in love!
I love you all and God loves you most!
THAT'S JUST WHAT I THOUGHT! LOL
Actually, the gays in ATL have very good fashion sense. You all should see them when they go to Lenox Mall. Also, why do some of them were their jeans hanging off their behinds so that you can actually SEE their backsides through their underwear? Is that a secret code, or something?
Kirk Franklin...Who is he kidding...His wife is the bomb. I take you back to my point about DL or gay dudes hooking up with fine women. Look at Baby face. Look at Eddie Murphy. They're women are beautiful. A gay guy is not going to settle for that “Keisha or that Shawtay type of girl. They are going to find the baddest female. Eddie's wife was fine but low key she looked a little tranny. But then we later found out that he liked that whole eros dot com type of life....He liked chicks with d!cks ….Since where on that topic most of those DL dudes are not with dudes they are with those trannys. They get a full package. A dude who looks like a girl, got the breast, the butt, the hipps but they also have the extra special something the DL dudes like. Study it. LOL
I respect the words of the Bible, but we have to accept that we live in a diverse world and homosexuality DOES exist. It's not our place to judge ppl for their lifestyles or "whom" they are on the inside.
In God's eyes all sin is the same, and who are we to judge? Let the father deal with it when the time comes, but as mortals, we have to be realistic. Gay ppl are your neighbors, bosses, co-workers, and FAMILY. It is what is, and we have to live with it.
yea gqswazey got the frat stuff covered cause even tho i didnt belong to one i heard all about all that. dated nig.gaz from frats & they told me all about it. SHyt, thats why half of em join anyway to be around a buncha dudes. Meth at them DL parties gqswazey? OK when i come to visit u, i know where we gon go! LOL!
since1980 i feel u & what u said. when men say they are not gay but on the DL, well yea we all know they are gay but i think what they mean is they dont "identify" w/ being gay so when one of these queens come around screaming about fukkin some str8 boy he means the dude jus dont call himself that. Thats just like the consensus that says only 10% of the poulation is gay--what they mean is 10% of the population ADMITTED to being gay! alotta folks aint gon wear that title. & trust me is alotta guys out there who need to jus fees up. folks not wantin to be labeled & shyt aint nothin but a damn cop out.
As for bmo4rmatl, I feel sorry for her to, but come on people, this is insane, why would you let someone do this to you. If you need help seek it out. No one should be treated like this. Sometimes people don't need to be passified when they have issues they need to be told the cold hard facts. She might be one of those people.
yeah Lis I cosign with that....
prettylady673 she knows the bible backwards lol... she knows the word, she trys to drag me to church on Sundays lol... but the church thing is a whole different topic for me, I don't believe in the institution of Church (sorry :() but I do believe in God and reading the bible etc. but I've seen too much and it have lead me this route... but thanks for the word.... but I'm the last to preach to someone cuz no sin is greater than the other...
Ok this is the real deal.
All you black chicks who think that having a prison record is the sign of a real man, I have news for you. No matter how hard or macho an ex-con acts, 99.99 percent of them have had sex with another man while in prison. The ex-jailbirds are the main guys who are on the DL and they are the main one's who are spreading AIDS around in the black community. Many of them are also intravenous drug users which is also helps to spread AIDS. Being the big dummies that most black women are, these are precisely the type of guys that most black women go for. Why this is the case I will never understand, rap videos perhaps? So in conclusion don't hate if your man give you AIDS, that what you get for screwing with him.
My sister is gay. I have gay cousins, and when I lived in AR, there were a lot of people in that church that were gay. I know there are a lot! Trust me...and I am from Los Angeles. There are a lot of gay people there too. And yes Lis, all sin is the same and there are no levels of sin, meaning that no sin is worse than another....so I agree with that
and we shouldn't judge..when we do that, we get judged by the same measure you used to to judge...and if what I posted was looked on as judgemental, than I apologize, becasue that was not my intention. I just wanted to let everyone know what I learned about God and has been proven in my own life to be true..
I don't think anyone here passified her. From the info she expressed, I personally saw an issue BIGGER than wondering if she was involved with a DL man, which seemed to be her highlighted concerned.
Based on that, I think she's oblivious to the bigger issues around her, a classic sign of a woman with self-esteem issues, and abuse. You can't just tell a woman enduring domestic abuse that she should just leave. Easier said than done. Her problem has to be solved from the inside-out.
I knew some holier than thou person was going to start quoting scriptures. You should have quoted that same scripture when you was in the club or when you was out drinking with the girls.
When I was younger my mother said, “Pray about it…ask got to deliver you.” I did, Im still gay. I tell my family…”This is how I am, this is how Im going to be, there is no sin greater than the other. Everyone in my fam loves me. They see Im about me and I make my money. Most of them look up to me. The bible was not written by God, but translated by man, a man who could have written anything so that he could have the world the way he wanted it.” I used to tell my mother that since Im gay, and since you sleeping with that dude and you’re not married and you drink and you cuss and you do all the things the Bible say don’t do. I guess we both going to hell.” After that comment she started to see things a little different. She started saying stuff like, “When am I going to meet your boyfriend, do you think hes cute, you like this hair style…..”
@ prettylady673- No, i have no doubt that God delivered Donnie or can deliver other people from that lifestyle. I think u wanted to ask Since1980.
But on another note, getting rid of homosexuality is the hardest task ever. It's very, very hard to do. But i know people that has been delivered overnight and i know people that it took years to get rid of...but it is possible.
lol at Since1980 man my bf mom be tripping to, she always trying to make my best friend girlfriend wear dresses and she don't let them sit next to each other when they all go out to eat it be so hilarious...
I know about L.A. pretty, I went to school out there! LOL
I understand what you are saying too, but it just seems out of place to discuss a Bible scripture overall opposing homosexuality, when the premise here is regarding sexuality indescretions in our relationships and the black community.
Lis, I got a chip, a big one I might add, but it aint on my shoulder. As for frats I feel ya GQ, I have heard a lot of what your saying about moving up. Lis once again I understand the individual comment, and many people loose, or never had any sense of self. So many women, and men need fraternities to define them as a person. I did not, part of mine was strictly from a career/business standpoint. It has allowed me to secure certain jobs, and favors that would have been very difficult. Truth be told it is a wealth of black fraternity men in positions of power. Those positions allow us to circumvent the system and achieve certain business an personal goals. Let me get back to the point at hand sense this site is more about fun. Donnie Mcclurkin, straight gay, and will always be, I really don't think God can change what you are born with. Hezekiah Walker, straight gay to, man I'm seriously about to say the entire church of black men are gay, oh yeah Tyler Perry gay. I used to be homophobic, not anymore, I just wish men would tell a woman if they like other men. Shid most of these women so damn desperate they would take him anyway. I have lost count of the women who say they would still sleep with an openly gay man. Damn either you desperate or you got a broke down beat up pu**y. Newsflash they don't want you, dumb breezy's. Last ladies if your man has some of these signs, at minimum do a little investigating, that is if you want to find the truth dumb broads, oh what up strongblackwoman.
yeah I don't doubt that it's hard baller! If I asked you by mistake...my bad!
And I am no different than anyone else...no better or "holier than thou.." but it's okay, you are entitled to your opinion....although you don't know me from a can of paint! LOL Say what you want about me, Jesus STILL loves you and I will still say that! and I won't judge you, and I didn't judge you...
Lis are you currently living in aTL? if so can you tell me any good hair salons, I'm heading that way tonight and I need my hair wrapped so bad, lol, so any suggestions? before i call around... sorry to get off topic folks ....
I went to college in L.A. (won't reveal where)
I lived near Wilshire and Beverly Blvd. back then, and then eventually moved to Glendale.
I visited a friend's church in Watts once, but that was about it. I left just months before the Rodney King/riots broke out.
I just read someone little comment on why DL dudes don’t identify with being gay. Its because of females like the ones here leaving messages. They know that somebody is going to have something to say about it. Anyway you look at it…people are always going to talk about somebody; it makes the world turn. Only the young ones are wolfing that mess about being with a thug or str8 boy or someone who is on the DL. An older successful person is not going to want to deal with that “Str8” boy mess. Only a young boy (still in high school) or an old tired dried up queen is going to deal with that DL, Str8 boy, thug BS. If you’re in your mid twenties like myself, did the college thing, work, and is successful and gay, your going to want to be with the same. So that ya’ll can work on something like buying a house adopting kids or being hood rich. Just like heteros…we don’t have time for all that BS. When I hear the word DL, I think of sex and being young. When I hear someone say, “Im gay” I think of a person who is comfortable with themselves and don’t care what people have to say. Like I tell people….YOU DONT PHUCK ME…FEED ME OR PAY ME…So I can really careless what you say or how you feel. Chat with yall later Im done for today!
The scriptures I posted didn't speak out against homosexuality, they just talked about God's grace being sufficient for everyone. And I really just wanted to give that to strongblackwoman for her friend and thought it was a good idea to post it. Like I said, I am NO preacher, but if you believe you know a good thing or have a good thing, wouldn't you want to share it too? I know I usually can't wait to share good news because those three scriptures were good news to me when I read them!
But I was wondering if everyone can talk about homosexuality, sex, abuse, drugs and ANYTHING else they want to talk to on ANY Fourm, why can't I bring bible scriptures up? Nevermind, I already know the answer to that...forget I even asked..
I was going to leave but Lis' few comments have grabbed my attention.
"I understand what you are saying too, but it just seems out of place to discuss a Bible scripture overall opposing homosexuality, when the premise here is regarding sexuality indiscretions in our relationships and the black community."
Get into that paragraph. That’s education speaking... I love it!
How are you going to be here on MTO trying to get the TEA (for you gay folks) or the Gossip (for you st8 folks) on celebs but you wolfin the Bible. YOUR GUILTY!
GAYS ARENT GOING ANYWHERE...SO accept em and get over it!
Get into that paragraph. Thats education speaking... I love it!
How are you going to be here on MTO trying to get the TEA (for you gay folks) or the Gossip (for you st8 folks) on celebs but you wolfin the Bible. YOUR GUILTY!
GAYS ARENT GOING ANYWHERE...SO accept em and get over it!
omg dam dis is so true cause dis boy in mii class named An@@#$ Hu%^&*# well (he aint mii man )but he fits this description to the tee and both mii and mii best friend thought he was fruity since way before lol
OD26- What's up Frat-Que Psi Phi for life, Epsilon Chapter, NYC, #5 Dog, Smmr 1983 !!! Peeps I cant speak for no Kappa's or or any other Soft brothers in other frats, But here in Omega, I AM SURE WE WOULD NOT TOLERATE IT, period !!!!! Maybe we do have some fags in the frat, but they aint singing...I dont wanna hear bout dat closet shyt...keep it in the closet where it belongs, Fags. I dont tell peeps when I sleep with wife, whyt in the hell should I even hear a dude is sleeping with a another dude... Guess I am still a little homophobic, WHATEVER ! The black race especially black men, got enuff problems, we dont need these freaks adding to our demise...sorry for being soft spoken, maybe next time, I'll tell you howe I really feel !!!! Freaking faggutz !!!!!
really I get on here to help time pass, read comments and talk to you all. Helps my day at work go faster...It goes faster when you are laughing!
Since1980...not one time did I ever judge you...
I understand what you are sayin Lis, but I don't always "do as the romans do" because you could be caught up doing something you would have never done if you werent in Rome, LOL!
Prettylady, I will answer that question, because religion is a very volatile, and touchy subject, and don't nobody need somebody preaching words they damn near don't believe themselves. This site discusses homesexuality, sex, and drugs, not religion. Damn I'm so tired of mobile ministers, always bible toting quoting scriptures. There are plenty of religious web sites, if you want to discuss it go there. MSN has a real good one. www.MSN.COM/CHAT ROOMS/RELIGION. Go there and quote the bible!!!!!
Stronblackwoman, let me make a call to a chick in the A, to find a shop, I'm universal baby. To be honest the shop is 2 buildings over from the Benihana Japanese Restaurant, right next to a CVS pharmacy store, diagnal from Justins, on Peachtree. I will call and check for the name, the chick might be a little angry though sense I been dodging her calls, nonetheless I will do my best. The shop is tad bit high end, but every woman I know who went came out and they were not disappointed!!! Holla
I'm sorry you feel that way, suga! lol
But here's the question of the day: WHY ARE YOU IN HERE COMMENTING ON A TOPIC THAT IS CLEARLY DISCUSSING HOMOSEXUALITY? You had to have known before you clicked to open the discussion, the nature of conversation here was regarding being gay, right????
I feel if you come into a discussion and can't be open-minded about what's being discussed then what's the point?
I need my own talk show! LOL :P
thanks for the warning Lis! LOL But I am a big girl, LOL! I knew it was coming too..LOL
You can't even pray for children in schools where they are constantly being shot and killed....So I KNOW you can't even mention Jesus or Bible or God in here without being stoned!!! LOL.
Ms Pretty Lady ….
When I said my thing about the Bible and being holier than thou I didn’t mention any names, I simply saw what you typed and by the time I scrolled down to the comments box after reading what other folks had said I forgot your name and wanted to address the topic not the person. My comments are not to attack or address anybody here. They are just unrehearsed free flowing words. HOWEVER, if you feel that they were for you… take it. I mean you weren’t the only one who said something about the Bible there were plenty other comments before my comment. That comment about Jesus STILL loves me…I never gave him a reason not to love me. My decisions are well informed decisions gay or not.
Bimbo is correct with this post.
Ladies I tell you I know a brotha in the rap game who is popular(BIG) who is Bisexual.
I kicked it with him in Germany and his crew. I won't blast his azz on MTO because I have Respect for this rapper, but it would blow ya'll away. Sometimes listen to Wendy Williams because she all most but his azz on blast(Pinky) LMAO
feel ya since1980. However...
"I understand what you are saying too, but it just seems out of place to discuss a Bible scripture overall opposing homosexuality, when the premise here is regarding sexuality indiscretions in our relationships and the black community."
That was directed to me from Lis. And you commented about that and I thought you were talking about me...so if you weren't talking to me, then MY BAD!!!!
Ms pretty Lady,
I’m not here to attack but why even come into a topic about DL or gay anything knowing your beliefs. If your trust with God is so strong and you feel that being gay is a sin the lord should have said, “Girl, don’t click on that topic. You know how you feel about it just scroll on down to Jasmine Guy Then and Now” BUT no, the curiosity got the best of you and you wanted to be a church diva spreading the word. Secretly, you came in here to be messy. I mean there is a little bit of mess in all of us. We knew what we were getting ourselves into when we clicked on this topic.
And that goes for anybody else that clicked on this topic. Ya’ll know whats up. Yall wanted to get the tea or that good ol’ gossip about Men on the LOW.
Good Point, and I do appreciate your response.Please excuse my anger. I got mad when the so called poll of how to tell if a guy is gay, is if he speaks against gays or DL's. That's just trying to keep peeps from saying anything about gay, without being called gay. I am very very anti Gay, as all my Frat brothers know, and it is rediculous to say by me speaking against Gay men, that some how I am gay... However, after reading my last post, I will "Curb" my anger, and be open minded as you stated... Peace Tony
I just commented on how intelligent Lis sounded. My resurfacing her comment was not directed to you. BUT THIS COMMENT IS:
Momma you got that church hat on too tight. Kick off those open toe mules and loosen up a little bit, relax! THAT’S AL IM SAYING…LOL
lots of interesting comments.
My cousin told me a way that would let you know if your man is a Hen, is by checking the Butt Hole for any flesh hangin from around that area.
Dunno know if this is true but i take a check anyway.
As for the tongue in the butt hole thing if my man ever, ever, even suggests that to me......he would get my whole foot up in there instead, cause that's takin it to a whole new level.
Naw, I just want women to know that what bimbo is telling the truth. You know how we get caught up in the bullshit and I swear this Rapper I would have gave him the booty and the whole week he was there.
This type of shyt is not my swagger...lol
Yeah that tongue in the butt is a little freaky for hetero relationship. Especially if ya man likes it. But whatever gets you off is what gets you off. I know a girl who sticks her finger in her dude while she is slurpin the knob. I mean yes that’s a little suspect but LADIES, if you wont do it …another one will. Its 2007…missionary is old and tired although retro….if you want to keep ya man…you gotta try new things.
There are a lot of gay DL men out there but I'm starting to worry that Wendy Williams is making me think that everyone is gay LOL. My man says it all the time..."you think EVERYONE is gay because of that damn Wendy William" LOL.
Ish is crazy though. I got a good man and I am holding on SUPER tight. BTW gay men ARE NOT the only ones capable of spreading HIV. Anyone having unprotected sex is at risk. HIV/AIDS is not a gay disease. Those comments are so ignorant.
Wow dude, and I didn't even realize you were so angry about gays, hmmmmmmmm! LOL j/k
I don't believe that they were trying to keep ppl from saying anything about gays, or they wouldn't have posted this in the first place.
Homosexuality, just like "DL" in relationships is just as prevelant in our community as poverty! You have every right to feel how you want, have your beliefs, but if you strongly oppose something and you can't do anything about it, why even waste your time and energy?
Yeah, our community has enough problems, but the LAST THING we need to be in this day and age is narrow-minded. You miss out on great opportunities and bigger pictures looking at one leaf on a tree.
well since1980 I read everything they post on here. I read all the comments too...I mean I'm a Christian, not dead. I LOVE TO LAUGH like everyone else!!!! I usually laugh when people say funny things on here. I read a lot of comments and I browse the web too... But I clicked on this and I read what the man had to say...and gave my opinion, that's it....
Lis seriously MTO needs to pay us cuz we the ones that keep the topics going lol...
What shaloka? shoot I need my hair done, lol, and my stylist couldn't take me today, lol, and OD26 don't forget about me!lol... it isn't one of those ghetto salons is it? cuz I don't use spritz or gel in my hair lol...
OK here's another DL tip for you ladies---
DL brothas living together claiming they "cousins". Thats a big one out here in Cali. 2 male lovers living in the same house sharing a bed, one or both got girlfriends. They both say they cousins but really theyre lovers. At one time some funny shyt happened cuz i have a str8 cuzzo who was living with me in a 1 bdr apt. (he slept in the living room on a fold out) who had a g/f and she knew i was gay. Well damn if we didnt have to pull out old azz childhood photos & shyt of us & our mommas all together to prove to her we really was blood relatives! But yea thats another one the old "thats my cousin" story.
you guys outta be thankin us cuz we fillin you in on alotta shyt!
Strong, its called innovative stylists, naw it aint ghetto from my understanding. Prettylady, ig you are a christian, and your eyes can withstand some of this, then more power to you. Most people who quote scriptures and talk about GOD to people they know absolutely nothing about are the one's going to hell with gasoline drawers on. What up TONYLOVE, nice to see another bruh on line. I said before I used to be homophobic my damn self, so I understand your issues. As for a few other issues. I come on this site, to see what's happening and funny in the entertainment world. I used to strictly go to the articles here that were fairly serious, but there aren't that many, and many people can't seem to have a intelligent debate about serious issues, so now I just "try" tp throw in imnportant tid bits of info, while really just killing time on the computer. I follow my own advice to prettylady. I like to talk politics so there are chat rooms I go to, to discuss politics. I believe in GOD, I just don't think MTO is the right forumn for the rhetoric.
Ya man is probably gay if hes rockin' that Gucci, LV, Parada, Fendi eye wear! Or if he has this cunty smile (Yeah thats CUNTY) on all of his one hour photos. Ya'll know about those 1hr. air brushed photos from 2001.
Yikes, I used to deal with this guy - liked to hit it from all angles - especially doggy - my fav - He freaked me out one time when he licked me there - another time I pulled out a toy - he got overly excited and said maybe I'll let you use that on me - That was the last time I saw him.
Thank God I believe in protection!!!!
A Tisket, A Tasket, A Condom or A CASKET!!!!
I know and and sing with Donnie ..Delivered? LOL there are many as I am in the music business I could tell yall somethings about your heros. And there is this big time pastor that when the dirt comes out on him church folk goin to be jumping out of windows. No joke
PICKING AN ARGUMENT TO LEAVE THE HOUSE FOR HOURS DOES NOT MEAN YOU ARE GAY! THATS THE OLDEST TRICK IN THE BOOK TO GET TO YOUR OTHER LADY! I THINK THATS SOME FEMALE JUST SAYING THAT TO KEEP HER MAN FROM CHEATING ON HER!BUT ALL THE OTHER SIGNS..................MIGHT BE TRUE!
11. He writes for a so called news website & somehow is able to accurately identify every trait of someone who's gay or DL...I feel dumber everytime I visit this site...@ first I used to get chuckles from it, now I just SMH...MTO is soooooo obsessed w/outing people...very similarly to a scorned lover...MTO is full of "outed" gay dudes who are pissed they can't get a piece of some of the celebs, so they try to monkey wrench a dude because like girly little jealous biitches, it makes them feel taller by cutting another person down...even worse are y'all bitter azz, bum azz,coon azz biitches who are so eager to buy into this bs, without any proof other than some anonymous buffoons observations...then y'all wonder why the decent ones got white broads on they arm........
Okay let me address a few ppl's comment about my previous post.
@od26, bitch don't judge anybody's situation if you don't know all the details. I feel like a man should never hit a woman but please believe that he got his ass knocked out too. Out of the 5 years we've been together we've only got into 3 times and his ass did get locked up.... and BTW, I'm a georgous black woman and I can have any man I want including yours and yo daddy and I got pics to prove it if you wanna see them.
@vanilla_one, naw I didn't put him on to the booty licking, he was doing me first for a while then over the years I somehow did him back, but he did ask me to do it, I didn't volunteer my service, lol
....And I never said that he like to get his booty licked all the time, I only did it about 4 times during our relationship not did I say he like anal sez all the time, we do it every so often.
But thanks to everyone that had positive and non-judgemental things to say. PEACE!!
Some things take basic common sense on the part of the woman if she truly wants to know. As a heterosexual black man I to question men who hate on gays because why else would it disturb a man what somone else does?
I also question men who want to sleep with as many women as would have them. In my opinion that man is trying to suppress other desires by trying to prove that he is in fact a straight man. Again just my opinion. Some black women need to just remove the blinders and see it (him) for who he is. If it feels funny or that something is wrong it usually is. And ladies some of these points should make you suspicious but use your own judgment. For example I heard a down low brother say on a radio show that if a man uses Body Wash he is a undercover gay man. Not true because I use Old Spice body wash and I am neither gay or on the down low. Use common sense.
I guess all the females are going to be checking their man's every move tonight. How Funny!
Keisha: Is there something wrong with your leg?
Jay (Lovly DL name by the way): Naw, why wasup?
Keisha: Why you walkin' like that ngga.
Keisha: Why is Dee always calling here for you late at night.
Jay: He gets off work late.
Keisha: U told me, before u met me, u did some time prison.
Keisha: I want to ask you something and you better not get mad at me....ARE U GAY OR HAVE YOU
EVER MESSED AROUND WITH A MAN IN JAIL?
Jay: Btch stay up off the em-effn- computer. I saw that ish on MTO, that MTO gonna have you single in a mintue!
Keisha: Baby u know I was just playin...come here!
LOL, I tell my girls all the time anytime a man wants to do anything to your bootie (other than slap it) he's gay. That tossing of the salad ish is some ol gay stuff. You can be gay all day but not with ME!!!!
DJTONYLOVE says "Guess I am still a little homophobic, WHATEVER!"
dude, the only people who use WHATEVA the way U used it is hardcore homos. Now how U doing? I see you in the family and U don't even know it yet. Sista.
damn, i thought this was a gossip site not bible school. puleez people keep yo religion to yoself.
prettylady673 says "You can't even pray for children in schools where they are constantly being shot and killed....So I KNOW you can't even mention Jesus or Bible or God in here without being stoned!!!"
girl get it together. why you gotta pray in school and on websites? just pray @ home. God is gonna hear you there. You got him on speedail.
GAY PEOPLE HAVE BEEN AROUND SINCE THE BEGINNNING OF TIME ITS THE BLACK COMMUNITY THAT REFUSES THEM FORCING THEM TO BE SECRETIVE. THATS Y SH!T IS THE WAY IT IS AND THERE IS NO WAY TO FIND IF YOUR MAN IS DL, IF HE'S DL YOU WILL NEVER KNOW BOO... UNLESS I TELL U
I just got one question, I don't know if yall remember but tell me why this nigga GQquazy tried to cuss me out when I accused him of being gay which he obviously is, Im sayin bruh what you just came to terms with you being gay in two posts.
As for the whole "if your man cares to much about what he looks like he must be gay" thing Look yall can call me what you want becuase I take care of my self and make sure my shit is tight if you want an ugly nigga go be with that ugly nigga have ugly kids and be happy becuase you aint gonna convince m that jsut becuase a nigga like to look good means he like it up the ass.
That sound like some shit gays mad eup becuase they want every good looking dude to be gay so they can have him which they all do just look at all these other gossip blogs.
This is a really grim and sad reality check, BUT a majority of women/wives still stay married or date they man even after they find out he is gay. These pathetic, desperate, women/girls are so desperate to save face with their family and friends they are willing to continue risking their health in the process. And WHY don't you women that know a man is on the DL or gay AND he CONTINUES to sleep around with females, tell evey female within earshot to stay away from him, he likes men. We as females have to stick together when it comes to something so serious as this. He is an AIDS epidemic waiting to happen. Ladies start using condoms and start loving yourself. OK SO YOU FOUND OUT ,OR YOU SUSPECT HES GAY. There are waaayyyy to many fish in the sea to continue messing around with him and playing russian roulette with your life. Better to be safe, than sorry.
Knew a guy who kept talking about wanting anal sex. Like he was obsessed with it. He also said likes his pubic area clean and shaven (what?!). I knew something was suspect and sooo glad nothing ever happened between us and cut him loose.
my ex used to suck his teeth and pop his gum that ish was so annoying i thought it was just cause he had a lot of sisters...lol. let the paranoia begin. he also was a kappa from morehouse and had sex parties when he was there..
Everybody wants to get on the defensive when someone bring up GOD or quote sciptures.That does not mean that she's a bible toting holier than thou person.She was only trying to let some of the people who questioned Donnie McCurklin change and other people struggles know that they could be delivered.She had a right to post her comment just like everyone else. No one said anything about strongblackwoman looking for a shop to get her hair done.
well you can call me what ever you want but homosexuallity is wrong period! nobody is judging anyone but it is a sin according to the very same bible that many of you may read, everyone has heard about the Sodom & Gomorrah story I am sure.
Although homosexuality is wrong that does not mean that any sin is worse then the other, hell I am sure we all have had sex with people that are not our Wifes and Husbands that is a Sin, Women on Women relationships is a sins as well just because a Penis is not involed does not make that right either. Nobody is perfect but you will be held responsible for what you know and if you know something is wrong and you continue to do it then it will eventually catch up too you, it is like a Diabetic that continues to eat Sweets or a person with a Heart Problem that continue to eat Beef it all will catch up to you eventually
and for anybody that always get defensive everytime God some how works his way into a conversation about homosexuality is either gay themselfs or either has close friend that are gay or family members that are gay, you can't kill the messangers we did not right the Bible
and stop all that "you can't judge me sh*t" someone telling you that homosexuality is wrong is not judging you but someone telling you that you are "Going To Hell" that is judging you
Lis - I was just commenting myself on the comment you made:
"Thing is about gay men that heterosexual men don't understand is that, THEY DON'T WANT YOU! a gay man knows his own kind, the same way you know that someone is ethnic, no matter how fair-skinned they are.
Gay men don't want to risk all that can happen by coming onto a straight guy, knowing there's a chance he may even be killed!
(I KNOW FOR A FACT THIS IS NOT "ALWAYS" TRUE) That's all I was saying. No biggie.
Okay sis, no biggie! lol
Then, you should say, "not in all cases, is what you said true" but to flat-out say that I am wrong, is inappropriate.
Again, YOU CANNOT "CONVERT" A TRUE STRAIGHT MAN.
@SICKO ,YOURE RIGHT ABOUT ANYONE JUDGING ANYBODY,YOU HAVE NO ROOM PEOPLE.WE ALL HAVE FLAWS,NO ONE IS ANY BETTER IN GOS EYES.JUST BECAUSE YOU HAVE MORE MONEY OR IF YOU GO TO CHURCH EVERY SUNDAY OR IF YOUR GAY,HE DONT LOVE YOU NO MORE THAN THE NEXT PERSON.WE ALL HAVE TO ANSWER TO OUR HEAVENLY FATHER,THATS WHY HES CALLED THAT AND IT IS WRITTEN.THIS MAN,BIMBO,HE WILL HAVE TO ANSWER FOR ALL THE SINNNIG HE IS DOING BUT WE CANT STOP LOVIN HIM BECAUSE HES STILL A CHILD OF GODS.PRAY FOR THE BROTHER AND OTHERS WHO LIVE THIS LIFE STYLE,THEY ARE THE ONLY ONES WHO CAN ASK FOR FORGIVENESS BEFORE ITS TOO LATE.BUT THAT GOES FOR EVERYONE IN ANYTHING THAT YOU DO THAT IS IN SIN!READ IT INSTEAD OF CHANGING THE BIBLE AROUND TO SUITE YOURSELVES!AND THANK GOD NONE OF MY SONS OR MY MEN EVER HAD THESE SIGNS.BUT BIMBO IS ON THE MONEY WHEN IT COMES TO KNOWING WHETHER YOU GOT A THUG OR D.L. BROTHER WHO WANTS TO BE UNDERCOVER!
To correct you I'm speaking from factual true information of GAY MEN WANTING HETEROSEXUAL MEN.
***I SAID NOTHING ABOUT CONVERTING A TRUE STRAIGHT MAN****
I just said TO CORRECT YOU the below statement is WRONG... (once again) - I'm speaking from personal experience..........
Only this part of what YOU SAID (since you asked me what am I talking about???) You did say this right? lmao!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"Thing is about gay men that heterosexual men don't understand is that, THEY DON'T WANT YOU! a gay man knows his own kind, the same way you know that someone is ethnic, no matter how fair-skinned they are.
Gay men don't want to risk all that can happen by coming onto a straight guy, knowing there's a chance he may even be killed!
GAY MEN LOVE STRAIGHT MEN and will service them.
fyi - Nothing to be offended about like I said earlier I know this FOR A FACT!!
This is so sick!
To all the women buy and use your own condoms.
I have one question though, if a guy is rappin and he says nigga's be trying to eat up my dog meat what does that mean?
Cause my friend use to write alot of his raps down and I found one of them and it had that in it. I just wanted to know if that was a clue about being on the DL.He did act suspect at times but even with those clues listed above he only showed #8 but he had a addiction to smoking them dippers too.
Have a great weekend all!:)
Girrrrrrrl, you can call it how you want. If a gay man can service a "straight" man, he AIN'T straight, bottom-line. I'm sorry but, YOUR EX-MAN WASN'T FULLU STRAIGHT, bottom-line.
And I'm NOT offended, but you have to know how to properly address your point. I don't need you to correct me from MY personal experiences, no more than you need me to correct YOU from yours, know what I'm saying?
My original argument (and still), is that a heterosexual man is just that, STRAIGHT! A gay man can long and lust all he wants SECRETLY, but HE WILL NOT OPENLY ADDRESS A STRAIGHT MAN, AT THE RISK OF BEING K-I-L-T!!! LOL
What kind of gay men are you dealing with? A few of my collegues are gay men, that are just as dignified and responsible, and are in monogamous relationships, just like hetero couples.
The BIGGEST MYTH about gay men is that they all come LUSTING after AND TRYING TO "TURN OUT" straight men. To say this IMO, is perpetuating everything that ppl do not respect about their(gay)lifestyle in the first place.
If you look at it from an integrity stand-point, it's not fair to the ones that want to be treated with respect and dignity, regardless of the few that have it in their minds, "I can turn your man out.." Well guess what baby, if you can do that, then he wasn't a straight man to begin with and can have his behind (LITTERALLY!)
That's WHY so many straight men are "homophobic" and do not respect gays as a whole. What YOU know as a FACT, is still YOUR PERCEPTION, but not the entire truth about gay men as a whole.
It goes back to saying, all men are dogs. Yes, SOME are! But not all of them. Women are gold-diggers.....you get my point.
You never need to worry if I ever get offended about someone expresssing their opinion to me. I am very well-spoken, and know how to debate intelligently with eloquence.
I completely respect that (others have their own opinions), but I do not have to agree and vice versa. I'm not going to call you WRONG, because I haven't walked in your shoes, so how could you do so to me?
True, Morehouse has an infamous "rep" for a gay population. Does that say ANY man that went to Morehouse is gay? No, it does not.
YES, LAWWWWD! There are lots of gay men AND women here, LOL, but what does that mean? I'M not gay, I have no intentions on hooking up with a woman any time soon (at least in this life-time!). That's just rhetoric.
U can't say 'gay men don't want str8 men' cause there are some that do. ANd u can't say that all gay men want str8 men too because that's not true. Gays are still individuals..there are no generalizations. Just because a str8 girl knows a guy that is also str8 does not mean she automatically likes him because he's str8.
Okay I have to comment on this Morehouse shit. First of all there are a lot of gay men where ever you go (of course it may be more of them depending on which city and state you go to) but I really don't think that Morehouse is the cream of the crop when it comes to gay men. People tend to have that perception bcuz they know M.House is a all male college. I go to Clark Atlanta, that's right next to Morehouse and Spelman, and I see more gay guys on Clark's campus than Morehouse (well Imma put it like this, the guys at Clark are way more open than I guys at Morehouse). So don't judge a school if yo ass haven't been there or at least spent some time there. BTW, I have a twin brother that goes to Morehouse and he's not gay.
U can't say 'gay men don't want str8 men' cause there are some that do
Understood. But like I said, he can lust all he wants, but if a straight man is really straight, he's not going to take it there with a gay man.
Also, I NEVER made any generalizations. My previous comment:
"The BIGGEST MYTH about gay men is that they all come LUSTING after AND TRYING TO "TURN OUT" straight men. To say this IMO, is perpetuating everything that ppl do not respect about their(gay)lifestyle in the first place."
I can't speak for bew-t, but I know all gays don't share her views.
When I made the statement, "cream of the crop", I wasn't referring to gay men. Morehouse and Howard University, (In MY opinion)turn out some really good brothas, period! JMO
My fiance' is Morehouse alumni, so was his dad. I'm a bit biased, but so what! LOL
omg! I visited Clark Atlanta and they need to do a census down there cuz them niggaz is a whole NEW statistic! Oh my goodness! lol! GUYS WHY!?
its like this:
if a black man ain't GAY, or D.L.'ed out...he's with a WHITE WOMAN
If a black man ain't with a white WOMAN, he's GAY
if a black man ain't Gay, he's D.L'ed out...
if a black man ain't none of the above...his ass is with you cheating, lying, and being a damn dog! its a shame!
bmo4rmatl, you dumb dizzy FU**, you should be calling the man a Bi***, who likes whoopin yo azz, then fu**in, you in yours. Punching you in the face like a man, gang bangs with other women. To be honest you are not worth the insults, because you should be ashamed of yourself when you look in the mirror every morning. I would have refrained, but the bi*** comment was to much. You have one problem and that is dumb black bi*** syndrome. To sit on here and say people don't know the story, after what you stated there is no more story. While you trying to talk greasy on the internet you need to pack your shid, and beat it, but I'm guessing you will stay, and continue to lick his azz, let him fu** you in yours, beat the breaks off of you, and bring in his gay friends so they can suck him off and you can catch the nut. Fall back breezy, you the type of chick, that after he leaves you will just be damaged goods, ol Erykah Baduh, as broad (thats bag lady). You will have so many emotional scars and baggage no dude in his right mine will want to touch you, unless you will lick his azz.You are the epitome of stupid, and not only do you make yourself look bad, you make black women look bad. You need to get an abortion. That child will either be raped by your fag boyfriend or emtionally disturbed because of your crazy azz. How dare you drop the b, word ob me hoe. You livin with a bit**, it's only real men in these parts!!!!!
Sicko man wrote the bible for one, and I feel like this I refuse to preach to someone about their so called "wrong doings" if I know damn well I'm not living right...and I'm not referring to prettylady cuz I don't see anything wrong with her scriptures, but I just felt it was bad judgement...
Lis I cosign, there is no way a real straight man will lust or want a gay man, if he do then he ain't straight point blank....
I really don't understand how a heterosexual woman or man can determine if a gay person is born str8 or if a gay man can be turned str8.
I see too many comments of females making decision on what a gay man can or can not do or how a gay man feels.
YOU CANT TALK THE TALK UNLESS YOU WALK THE WALK!
AND these first ladies of the church...with these bible quotes and scriptures about gay characters in the Bible. SAVE IT FOR ANOTHER DAY SAINT. Keep it consistent. You quote a scripture, then you turn around and say,
"No sin is greater than the other."
I MEAN....what was the scripture for?
WAS THAT YOUR INTRO?
STR8 PEOPLE MAKE MORE OF A FUSS ABOUT SOMEONE BEING GAY THAN GAY PEOPLE.
I ain't mad at Bimbo!
Bust a B*tch out!
Just keep it real with yourself and be considerate of others.
Play it safe when it comes to sex, don't risk other lives because you don't give a damn about yours.
I had a friend that perp'd for so long and did lots of my girlfriends, just to come out of the closet years later!
I couldn't believe how long he lived that lie.
He should of won an Oscar for his performance.
That type of sh*t is very scary!
SICKHOE, who are you to determine if someone is going to hell or not, people use the bible and other words to fit there own particular agenda. This is not a religious website, so take your azz somewhere else with that mess. Yall the same one's trying to give the preacher head, and lusting for the riches of the first lady. Spare the bible quotes, and stick to the format of the room.
@od26,I really LMAO at you right now!!! thanks for wasting so much time and energy on me, but after all I am worth it. You gettin' so offensive bcuz I called you a bitch!!! HA BITCH get over it. Like I said you don't know all the details, I make a few statements about my relationship and you start makin assumptions like you really know me. Bitch get out my ass cuz I got enuff thongs. If I wanna continue to stay with my man and lick his ass hole then I will, that's my fuckin' business. Maybe if you had a man of your own you wouldn't be so tied into my shit. And for yo raggedy, tired ass to have the nerve to tell me to get an aborption...BITCH you have lost yo rabbit ass mind, you taken this whole comment shit to another level and it's not even that damn serious. Im not about to sit up here and argue w/ you about some non-sense, maybe you need a man to put his foot off in yo busted ass and you probably wouldn't talk so much shit. BITCH get a life and stop getting upset over someone else's problems when you can't and won't do shit about it
On a side note:
This is clearly entertainment for me....I chuckles off the comments.
Reality is not numbered 1-10
These peeps have to realize the world is going to turn and by some messy f@ggot posting all this info is just going to step the next DL nigg@'s game up.
Sistas.....My SOUL sistas......( KE-KE) Ya'll have to realize and wake up...Ya'll need to stop worrying about if ya man or your girlfriend's man is gay or on the DL.
If your have your doubts, that is what protection is for and if it comes down to having babies...thats what that good ol' test is for. HIV and STD that is....
Females need to focus on..."DAMN IS THIS GOOD MAD....IF WE HAVE KIDS, CAN HE PROVIDE..... WHAT IS HIS FAMILY LIKE.....IS HIS MOMMA A CRACK HEAD....
DOES HE HAVE A GOOD JOB......WHAT ARE HIS GOALS???" Naw women want to worry about the wrong things...AND thats why most of yall AINT GOTTA MAN!
I have one and he is not a LOSER! TRUST! I HAD TO DO MY RESEARCH. If something is lingering around that I dont know about...We will cross the bridge when we get there. LIVE FOR TODAY AND FOR TOMORROW BECAUSE U WILL STRESS YA SELF OUT!
I have been reading your comments about gay men not going for str8 men and I have been biting my tongue. But no more.
I have a friend who is gay. He is not flaming gay but you can tell he is effeminete but he is VERY GOOD LOOKING. He sleeps with Str8 and married men ONLY and he has about an 80% success rate. When we have a get together and he shows up the str8 boys talk about him behind his back. But to date he has slept with four of the str8 boys (one who just got out of jail). Two of them are brothers and don't know about the other sexin him. My girl is like as long as he don't try for my man she don't care who he sleeps with.
This phine cable man came over to fix his cable. When he left my friend called his cell phone and told the cable man he was phine as hell and he loved him. The cable man told him he was married and don't get down like that but when can he come back to get his dome shined!!! WTF I had to pick my jaw off the floor.
If my friend thinks someone is gay he don't deal with them. He goes only for the str8, married, thug type. The sad thing is my friend is HIV positive. He's always complaining that he's lonely because he can't keep a man. I tell him it's because he's slept with half the population of the city. They're already married and ni99a's knows he's an easy f*ck.
Ladies, a str8 man will try another man if he is confident he can get away with it and noone will find out. No not all str8 men will try another man but those who are curious will. I have been shocked @ who have straddled that fence.
I have gay guy friends in fact I go to FEATHERS a couple years back that where 12packs from FOL work. Gay mens fun to hang with. But my gay friends say the same SHIT as Bimbo!!! BUt they done want mess w/no married men, but these married dudes lie to them and shiiiiit. Or they hangouts in gay spots and hook-up then it to late. They also say if a dude have tokens from dirty book store or if he go into one he a queen. Also, some parks are where gay bois go to hooks up, so if you man be there supposedly kicken it there, he gay. I think we need to stop making be gay such a stigma in our community so peoples can just be who they be w/out all the drama. Look at that white dude who was the reverand ted haggards-he wass downe and say mean stuff about gay mens. But it turn out he a big ol queen too.
msthing10, you said you "know and and sing with Donnie ..Delivered? LOL"
Why would you sing "gospel" with a gay man?
Were you an eyewitness to his gay sex?
Why would "church folk" jump out the window because a man sinned?
Is this "big time pastor" God?
No joke. Only answers, no name bashing. You can simply say "yes" or "no"
To the others...There is no such thing as a gay Christian. The word Christian means like Christ who was NOT gay. In fact he was a virgin who died at the age of 33. He did more important things in life besides focusing on his crotch.
Half of the world say they are Christian, but are not. What's up with the other religions, share the love.
Also, what is this born gay stuff? Is there a gay gene? Is it an X or Y chromosome? Which one? or may be its a V, (half of the X and half of the Y). Hmmm. Let's see someone take that to the clinic.
Everytime someone talks about gays and Christianity, they bring up a so-called Christian person who they believe is gay to justify it. The bible says FLEE FORNICATION. That means in all form. It speaks for itself.
Lets see: My boyfriend. Spends more time with his "best friend" than he does me. He has faked sick in middle of a date and ended up with him ( said he just got to feeling better and his friend just "happened" to come by. his friend took weeks vacation to go watch my boyfriend hunt. They have gone on numerous over night Scouting for deer trips, hunting deer including his friend just watching, fishing trips, turkey hunts, goose hunts most recent excuse, hog hunting. All over nite trips. He used to ignore my calls if he was with his friend Dirk. They have a close friend that it has been talked around town is openly bi-sexual and hangs out with gay people. This guy sent Dirk an e-mail after my boyfriend and dirk and his wife went to Branson griping cause his friend never did anything like that with him and that he always had my boyfriend up his butt. Incidently the friend and my boyfriend got very mad at his wife and I for shopping in different places and separating the group. That way friend and bf wasn't together. Both got livid mad and lectured us. BF made a comment on that trip where they sit in front seat, women totally ignored in back seat that "we made agreement we don't fight didn't we?" Thought that was kind of gay. He was giddy excited to go on that trip saying us women had griped about them never doing anything romantic. Romantic for who? The trips we have taken alone together he has not been giddy on but the hunting trips, etc. Giddy as hell and didn't even stop to hug me goodbye before he left on 2 and 3 week hunting trips. BF has been married twice and slept in separate bedrooms both times. With me he has either kicked me out of bed in middle of the nite, stormed out and either went home or to different bedroom, ended up on couch. Bitched all weekend about being tired one time I spent night at his house. He never holds me and caresses but will grab my boobs and butt in public. First time we had sex he tried from behind I stopped him he said it was an accident. Any other times real sex he has painful disgusted looked on his face when I have been on top. I finally have given up. About giving oral sex his comment "its not my favorite thing". Now its reduced to him wanting blow job or hand job. He usually has to finish as I can't get him to a "happy" ending. Him and his Best friend had an e-bay business which was still yet another reason to be hanging out together every freaking evening. These are men in their 30's and 40's. Their username was Mr999999. 69. Isn't that what gay men do? One Christmas eve our time together got pushed back cause he had "special" out of town hunting plans with his best friend. I threw a fit and he came home. His best friend texted me more than he did when we first started dating 3 years ago. He seemed to be concerned we were going to get married. Heard him lecturing him about checking someones credit before he got married. Tried for months to get me to open account where his friend works and I kept refusing cause it seemed he was wanting to try to find something to discourage our relationship. BF is very secretive and has gotten livid mad when I have read his text. I discovered weird text like "munson", or "corn". Are those codes for some gay crap? When I asked bf what "corn" meant he got mad grabbed phone and through it on dash and broke up with me. When I read a text from his friend that said something to the affect he never got to see my BF anymore (although they had spent the evening together 4 nights earlier) and sent pictures of the two of them together years earlier saying remember when "BGF" I asked him what that meant and he grabbed phone threw it on dash cussing me. On valentines day one year his friend texted and called him at least 9 times and the 2 text I saw said "are you okay" then "I am hurt you haven't contacted me on this very important day". I had suspected the gay thing and confronted him about it. He said friend was just joking. I said fine let me text him and joke with him. He got mad grabbed phone. Our first year of dating not many dates were without his BF texting and calling continuously but if I called him when they were together he would ignore my call. He has started fights and used the excuse we were fighting and his friend just happened to call hence he went with him. During this time totally shutting me out. When he is around him he will put me on speaker phone and ask me to repeat what I am saying will laugh, get very hateful. Seemingly to impress his friend by being mean to me. Next morning I will receive template text "I love you, I am sorry, please forgive me". His second wife would not let this friend on their property. When I asked him what happened to that marriage his first answer was "I never got to see friend". They declared her a crazy bitch and he has told me I am just like her. He has said that all women are unreasonable and once when I was telling him about someone I know being hit by husband, he replied I bet every time a man hits a women she deserves it. He has gotten so mad at me that he tried physical thing. Glad to report I grew up with all boys in my family and I know how to fight. He left with marks cause I fought back. He does talk about gay people. Will always make comments. I never pay attention to that. He made a weird comment at a musical one time that the men weren't very good looking in the show and gay men usually are. I have seen him masturbate while is on the phone with his friend. He plays with himself a lot but that is still weird. When I have confronted him about being gay he gets livid mad storms out and shuts me out. If someone were to ask me I would laugh cause I know I am not. Guess the most disturbing thing is getting into his Youtube account and finding gay porn. He has no explanation but says he always has that kind of stuff happening to him on electronics that he can't explain. He claims a lot of women want him. And he is nice looking. Was drop dead good looking in his day. He says if we break up he will show me he isn't gay cause he will have a girlfriend. Well he does now but I still think he is at least bi. Always know when he is with his friend without seeing him cause his personality changes. He gets giddy and very mouthy and rude to me. He will complain about driving 15 minutes to my house but think nothing of going out of town with his friend. he always seems to pay for his dinner too. He has lied about going out of town with him. I found out by looking at his bank statement. He has dropped me on a friday evening saying he wanted to be alone and didn't have time for dinner yet I find his truck abandoned parked on main street then find he is with friend. t told him this past January that it was either his BF or me. He says that is unreasonable but he will cause he loves me. Last weekend however when he did the typical personality change, picked a fight yelled at me, then proceeded to shut me out all weekend, that friend was at his house. He lies and says he didn't talk to him. Oh and I know what sprayed cum looks like in the laundry and he has periodically had sprayed cum on his clothes. How do you spray yourself. Women don't spray. I suspect mr and mr 999999 r 69ing it. He built a deer blind for his parents on their land and was always seemingly going out there with friend. When he posted on Facebook that he built this for his sweetheart hope she likes it one of his friends posted--whos the lucky guy. He says that is just guy talk. He deleted it after I said something. When we went to his bank to talk to a banker that knows his friend, they did this little interchange something like do you have a time to talk, yeah 5 minutes, well this will only take 3, thats not what your friend says he says you can do it in 2. Again, he explains it away as being guy talk. And got livid mad cussing yelling at me for thinking it was weird. I know he loves me, but I think he loves friend more. I have seen the way his friend looks at him, like he's in love. He was talking about someone he suspected was gay and I said, you are describing yourself and your friend, he got livid mad got up and left. So, you all think he's on the down low?