Check The NEW MISS HAITI 2010 . . . She’s A BEAUTIFUL GIRL . . . But It Just SEEMS ODD For A Woman SO LIGHT To Be The Symbol Of BEAUTY For HAITI!! (Do You AGREE)

: MediaTakeOut.com learned that over the weekend, officials in Haiti crowned the new Miss Haiti 2010.

The woman, photo'd below is 100% Haitian. Now we know that there are Haitians of ALL SKIN TONES . . . but how come they gotta choose the LIGHTEST OUT THE BUNCH to be Miss Haiti.

SHEESH!!!

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batdung
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Wom, unbelievable.


_NoBitchAssNess
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Well okay ;) Nice #nobitchassness


Sboogie1

Shilee
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no different than what they do in America!!!!!!!!!


MrLife
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I like black non African American girls. They are so beautiful. They know their culture and value. Much luv.


msflii
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the beautiful thing about black people is that we come in all tents, tones, and hues!


tiplite2004
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I thinks it's odd that a black women doesn't have as.s!!! In my Scottish Korean voice " A walking contradiction"


nutterbutter
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yea ok lighter is better


sExCi_dOrK
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wowsers top ten!


my_temple
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Ummm. I think Black people around the world come in all shades and complexions. Addtionally, Haiti, just like everyplace else on the planet has a variety of people of different nationalities and ethnicities. Do you think everyone who is Haitian is dark and/or Black?


HomeeSmasher
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such bullshot.


Sugar_Lump
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Mike Harris needs to SHUT the f up...we don't care about your liking for "redbone"....NEXT?


misshugrad
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Race baiting... But those are ALL some beautiful women.


Pink_TinkerBaby
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How is it weird dat there a lite skinned haiti gurl dat is a symbol 4 beauty?? MTO shutup


sexy43
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what that yellow beeotch doin there anyway??? y her monkey swirly azz the otha girls r more beautiful n dis day n age ppl think light is betta r more beautiful hell im lite n no darker is mo beauttiful not sayin im not



Oneika_Tanaya
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You See That's The Shit Im Talking About Why It Couldn't Be A Beautiful Dark Skin Woman...I Have Nothing against Light Skin Woman My Mom and My Sisters Are Very Light and So Is My Child.... But Come On Son!!! miss Haiti Is Gorgeous has a Nice body and everything..... But Why Her?...I Mean For Though Like Why??????


est1986
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omfgoodness i am sick of hearing of this light/dark skin bullshyt


rockmyworld25
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they were never going to pick a dark skin girl if a light skin girl with good hair was there so i think those other chicks knew they were not going to win.


KAYsBAD
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She's a beautiful woman, Black people comes in all shades, so who cares, if she won.


acnicerus1
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SHE LOOK MORE DOMINICAN THAN HATIAN U SUR E THEY GOT HER FROM THE RIGHT SIDE OF THAT ISLAND


dopemcee
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are you saying all haitians are mud pie eating, butt scratching, disease having , black as tar ass darkies mediatakeout?? well thats pretty much true...but you didnt have to say it like that.


7lady
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It is what it is...people including dark people hate dark people. It's called conditioning. And the white folk did a helluva job...give em a round if applause! Ok! We get it dark is the least preferred people! Get over it!


tj0711
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Ok what is wrong with a darkskin girl yall got issues anyway im darkskin and i know i look good and light skin or dark skin black is beautiful!


Queenof09
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Im so tired of people and the race issues...damn


stesha_doll
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race baiting at its finest and the ignorant insecure people just keep biting.. seriously GROW UP! she can win ms haiti because she is freakin haitian! duh! get over urselves!


emmettmays85
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7lady no matter what condition im in u will always be my baby


nolalove504
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Dear MTO, GROW UP !!!! she's Haitian thats all that matters ... omg seriously ... yall are just as racist as the white folks ... why she has to be dark huh MTO ?? ... Miss U.S.A is Arab (I think) ... Well from the middle east ... I bet yall had some sh!t to say about that ... would ya'll rather a blonde hair, blue eyed becky ?!?! GTFOH (oh btw Im not light ... just sayin)


oohlalannenna
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Well of course they picked the light skinned girl... Don't mean to discriminate against light skin individuals but they're chosen for everything. For hip hop videos, for movies, better jobs, for pageants (did you notice the black girls that ran for Miss USA 2010 were all light skinned?) If there's a light skinned woman in the mix among brown skinned or dark skinned women (especially dark skinned) the light skinned individual will most likely always win! The end. How do we battle racism and discrimination btw blacks and whites, when we're having the same battle among our own people with light skin vs. dark skin??


QueenieE
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WHAT'S ODD ABOUT THAT MTO?OPEN UR MIND OR READ A DAMN BOOK..THERE ARE DIFFERENT RACES OF PEOPLE IN THE CARIBBEAN ESPECIALLY HAITI..NOT BECAUSE AMERICA ONLY SHOWS THE POOR BLACK ONES..SAME FOR AFRICA..IF I DIDN'T KNOW ANY BETTER I'D THINK AFRICA WAS ONLY POOR BLACK PEOPLE BEGGING FOR MONEY..THANKS MEDIA!


PUSSYMONSTER
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Because she the finest one. Duh



Divaonadime
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If she is Haitian (with at least 1 parent from Haiti) I see nothing wrong in it. I am sure darker women have won that title in Haiti years before her. Don't be hypocrital MTO, that shyt happens in America every day and if Fred had his raggedy ass blogg in 1996, you and your illiterate staff would have been the first to bite back at outraged Italians who were angry because a black Dominican woman was crowned Miss Italy. So STFU!


kaybeesneed
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okay....if she haitian she deserves it just like any of the other dark skinned girls would if they had won. its really sad that yall had to point that out.


wescoga36
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Lightskin babes are just more attractive than dark skin babes don't hate just accept it.Just like white people and every other rase are just better than us black folks because we will not pull together for s..t!! and never will sorry!!


dcboi
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LOL...100% Haitian my ass...Where your born dont mean ish.. Its your ancestry that shapes who you are...


ladytopshotta73
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Not surprised-----it is what is! And as for the winner----most of the poor, underpriviledged sufferers I see from that country look NOTHING like the bitch chosen to represent Haiti---Not surprised at all! Emmett what's up Baby?


susta
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that's sum bullshyt.


phillylove41
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MTO love to be on some racial ish all the freakin time


BeautyThatIs
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@MrLife: shut the fuck up ghetto ass coon your ignorant and rude you BLACK PIECE OF SHIT.GET A LIFE MONKEY COME ON HERE TALKING ABOUT AFRICAN-AMERICAN WOMEN,I BET YOU,YOU ARE ON THE DL AND DROPPED THE SOAP


emmettmays85
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@ topic the winner is one fine ass bitch, i see why she won


Brian_Lannister
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Simple, her skin color actually makes her more beautiful.


uniqueSag
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JUST SMH.....THATS ALL I CAN DO ABOUT THAT! THE WRITING IS ON THE WALL.


esquare
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You are kidding right? And what if we said that someone was too dark to represent Ms. Haiti? What a ridiculously, blatent, ignorant racist statement. She IS the prettiest of all of them, so it is obvious why they chose her.


nicole10
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THE CONTEST IS BASED ON OTHER THINGS BESIDES LOOKS IGNORANT PEOPLE, MAYBE SHE ANSWERED THE QUESTION THE BEST, DID THAT EVER CROSS YOUR MIND!!


glittermachine1987
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Since when did being light skin become such a crime?


sexyma2187
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umm how they even have a pagent with what happened over? shouldn't they be getting the country back on its feet?



tuff-tony
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too me..the rank in order of beauty..from 1st to last..14,13,2,9,7..hmmm..i should play them as some lotto numbers..


capri1585
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what an ignorant title for a story. mto you have stooped to a new low. if she's haitian, she's haitian. stop hating on light skin ppl


emmettmays85
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ladytopshotta73 hey baby how u doing? i love u


dcboi
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But we all know thats how they get down in the Carribbean..They all brighten thier skin whether they be Haitian, Jamaican, Dominican or whatever. They bring that self-hate when they get to America too. Hatitans are just too dark to lighten thier skin so they just go right out and pick a quadroon to represent themselves..lol


bezsenny
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. Those competitions are stupid anyways. There's more to us than what meets the eye... .


ladytopshotta73
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When I see a Hatitian girl SHE LOOKS NOTHING like this mongloid lookin mixed mongrel PARASITE! Where was this bitch during the crisis? Was her fam affected? Is she from Port O' Prince or suffered the struggle, poverty and torture? This is what voo-doo and anti-GOD activities get you! A blatant SPIT in tha f*uckin face! And don't come come tellin me no sh*it about most of Haiti bein catholic----CATHOLICISM is a known tool to hide and cover up more SINISTER practices! So miss me with that BS!


capri1585
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shut up mike harris...im tired of seeing your cockeyed ass. you are so obsessed w light skin bc u obviously cant get many and you are mad at dark skin chicks cuz they dont give your dumbass no play either. then you always say you want a classy women. the nerve, no woman with a brain would give you the time of day. i am a light skin classy women and you couldnt pay me to be anywhere near you. just do us all a favor, and atleast take down that avi.


DamnCuba
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like real talk women come in all shape and sizes. thats real sad that ppl have a issue with black woen not havin azz. that jsut show is slow you are!


Magic827
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Oh gosh here we go. Let the race debate begin


Vodka
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she looks like shes the only one who actually TRIED. the other girls look wretched.


MassDude781
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damnn all them ladies r gorgeous any of em liek white guys lol


mili
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Who cares how light she is....she representing her country......WHAT THE FU.CK MTO! DAMN GET OFF THAT IGNORANT SHIT! YOU KNOW HAITI IS NEAR DOMINICAN REPUBLIC ANYWAY. THERE ARE WHITE AFRICANS YOU DUMB BIT.CHES. MTO CAN SUCK A DI.CK AND DIE!!!


iLuvMTO
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this bytch better put down the crown and grab a shovel. they need to worry abt cleaning up the mess from the earthquake. they havin pageants when the country is still in shambles. i was just watching the news and they have haitian locals trying to clean the debris with shovels and a dump truck and no other equipment. and they only gettin paid $5 a day.


capri1585
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mike harris stfu already. im so tired at your cockeyed ass. its obvious that you cant get many women at all thats y you are so obsessed with light skin women bc you probably never had one. and dark skin women probably dont give you any play either. then you have the nerve to always talk about how you want a classy women, when any women with a brain would not tolerate your ignorance. im a light skin classy women and you couldnt pay me money to be in the same room as you. just do us all a favor, and atleast take down that avi, ignorant bastard.


devils_advocate
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This is the ignorance that i've come to expect from MTO.Trying to create a lightskin vs. darkskin debate in a Haitian beauty contest? Lame.



WarrenggG
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Ummm SO WHAT! I'm sure daark skinned women won every year over light skinned women before. The one year a light skinned woman wins and yall want to start a war with our own people. Wish we could fight about REAL problems affecting our communities for once. Might be asking too much though. Sorry about ranting. You can proceed with putting white women and white men back on pedestals. While they could care less about any of you.


sinister1
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dcboi Yu need fi shut yu mouth. I'm Jamaican and mi na bleach wit cream mi bleach wit mi M 16!


realwoman
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It's not race baiting yall..it is just a valid question that some of you feel uncomfortable about addressing. I know quite a few black people who think that lighter skin is more beautiful. They are morons and I don't support them. I am not saying that is the case here because but let's not act like it doesn't exist....my thing is that there are Black people born alll over the world but you rarely see them representing any countries where they are a MINORITY in a beauty pagent..think about it.


BLkBaRbieMaFia
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Come on MTO this has nothing to do with skin tone. but all to do with everyone else behind her looking a hot as$ mess. How do u enter a pageant with ur hair like that. I WOULDNT EVEN LEAVE MY HOUSE WITH MY HAIR LIKE THAT. CLEARLY SHE WAS THE BEST AND ONLY CHOICE Bum B!TCHE$ SHOULD STEP THEIR GAME UP REGARDLESS OF SKIN COLOR IF UR A BUM b!TCH GET UR SH!T TOGETHER


CRAZY_DAVE
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She's Ok, but she can't touch the sexiest model in the World who is also from Haiti named "CAMILE". Camile is the baddest looking chick on Earth!!!!


tristansmom
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@tiplite200 lmbo tooooo funny i'm DEAD


Tqirl
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She's real Beautiful!, Nice Body! (No Homo) and of course they gone choose the light-skinned Girl!


BATTYBWOY
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C'mon yall, you can't blame MTO for the ones who always have color on their mind. All they do is put a story up about it and the same ones who always come out to comment, always do!!!! Don't act like this is new......N!ggas I tell ya!!!


TheMoarYouKnow
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Didn't they have an earthquake? Lol maybe they should spend their time fixing up the country and not doing beauty pagents.


MrMont
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She's Haitian, she's beautiful, so she won. 'Nuff said.


nicole10
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AND IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT WHITE WOMEN DON'T LIKE TO BE PALE AND WHITE, THEY WANT TO BE AS TAN AND AS DARK AS BLACK WOMEN,SO THERE'S PROBLEM WITH COMPLEXIONS IN ALL RACES, WHY DO YOU THINK TANNING SALONS ARE SO POPULAR???


labellaafricana
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let me first say that black people come in all shades but she is not the prettiest of them all. @Tuff- Tony i also think # 14 is prettier, way prettier look at her in the yellow dress too. And in the first picture miss haiti looks as if she has implants... That's the first thing i saw anyway... @ladytopshotta73 I totally agree with you . Also , in thirld world countries , it's known to most that corruption makes you win , not because you are the prettiest ... let me stop right there. con't


BabyGurlGotSwagg69
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It doesnt matter wat color you are shes still preddy. I wish i could be that preddy. Im jealous lol


mtlprincess
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So much stereotypes about haitian people, it's sad they already do not get respected in the 1st place.


mratx512
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YOUNG BERG WAS A JUDGE.HE SAY HE DIDN'T WANT NO DARK BUTTS. SHE FLY.I'LL HOLLA



PersiaWhite
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MTO you are being ridiculous, provocative and down-right ignorant. Black people (where ever they are) come in all shades and colors. There is nothing wrong with her coloring. Haiti has always had people like her in her population. I have noticed that Fred, being African, is not use to seeing black people who do not look like him. You live in the West now Fred so wise up.


ZOE1804
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there are lots of light kins Haitians in Haiti and damn dis one is fuckin Fine


empty
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THERE ARE BETTER LOOKING HAITIAN CHICKS THAN DAT SO THOSE OF U WHO R HATING AINT SEEN NOTHING YET THIS CHICK AINT SHIT COMPARED 2 SUM HAITIAN CHICKS I KNOW HAITIANS R MIXED WIT FRENCH 2 N U WILL FIND THEM BETTER LOOKING THAN DA DOMINCANS AT TIMES


labellaafricana
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To finish, i can't believe some of you are still colorblinded ... someone's color doesn't make them beautiful... or you mean to tell me that all white people are beautiful since they are light SMH I sometimes wonder if black people are cursed... How do you know if that's her hair...is it because she'light... I beg to differ but come here in africa there are lots of dark skin with long hair... I don't understand the rationale here at all and i'm not dark either ... but the ignorance of some blacks here in america kills me... UH! I said it!


Boom87
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damn.. she is pretty light.. oh well


SweetNPetite74
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She's is a beautiful woman, I'll give her that. And, congratulations on her winning. If I had my choice though, I would have picked #13. She is so beautiful to me. She has a cute shape, a cute short slicked down do and her skin tone is gorgeous. Anyway, all of the women are beautiful in their own right.


SNOOTyBAyBEE
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AiNT N0THiN WR0NG WiTH BEiN LiGHT, iT AiNT HER FAULT


UKNOWUAINTRIGHT
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She looks different from the rest but hey Americas colorism has gone global. If they choose this chick each and everytime then it is a problem but even miss America when she was black had a lot more color but I guess. Sorry Black people colorism exist and African Americans with their obsession disguised as preference for loving anything white look at who the richest black marry. African Americans and their "Preference" for light skin and the mentality that light skin is better have some of the biggest complexes and promote their self hatred around the world are the last people on earth who should even try to pretend like they dont have the biggest issues with each other. They are all cute women but the dominican looking 1 won if this happens all the time then its a problem but how do we know. Black people in America always favor light mixed and now very unattractive non blacks so please go somewhere with the we are the world speech cause American black are the most hateful towards dark skin.


labellaafricana
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@ persawhite i hope you know what you are talking about!? have you ever been to africa? WTF are you talking about? jeez ! Don't talk about what you don't know... SMH @ this ignorance


WhiteManLover
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WHO GIVES A FCK!!!! THIS IS MTO STARTING ANOTHER WAR... ITS TRULY SOME AHOLES WORKING FOR THIS SITE


honeygirluk
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That's the way it's always been. Mixed race or light skinned women almost always win these contests.....sad but true. It's so common most black people just except it now.


eyesotp
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Fair skinned blacks are automatically FINE in some peoples minds. She's pretty and so are the other finalists. The real question is have they always picked the light skinned chicks in other years?


BKLYNSOWN
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Theres some ignorant ass n*ggas on here like theres no such thing as light skin haitians wtf im from Brooklyn & I know for a fact theres plentyyy as with all black nationalities smfh doesn't mean she's Dominican I bet if the same people had seen a dark skin female come 1st place in the miss Dominican republic 2010 then they'll be like she's Haitian cause shes too dark lol most the Dominicans I know are dark skin


robynthickkk
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she pretty =]


noonemyb
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you guys are mad ignorant to say that, you dont know shit about haiti ..just because all they show you are black people that live in slums ..Haiti has people that look white its not only black people ..idiots !!



Lulabelle_Jackson
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dcboi "But we all know thats how they get down in the Carribbean..They all brighten thier skin whether they be Haitian, Jamaican, Dominican or whatever. They bring that self-hate when they get to America too." Obviously you don't know much about the history of skin lightening, hair straightening(hot comb, chemicals, and conking), not to mention those little kids who appeared recentLy on CNN.


Woohoo
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Perhaps it was the connection(that she made with the judge), and not the complexion.


PINKLADY86
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WOW! THE LIGHTEST 1 WITH THE STRAIGHTEST HAIR, HUH???!!! WHY AM I NOT SURPRISED! SMFH!!! :/


beautifulstephdot
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The lighter one won because she's beautiful HELLO! Mto y'all just salty cause light skins get it in! Don't get me wrong they're all pretty but she had it hands down!!


Hationqueen2009
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This post is so fucking stuipid there are hatian people of all skin colors pick up a freakin book yeesh sak pase pou tout haitien


JayedDaBoSS
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hmmm.i think she won b.c she tha best lookin out tha bunch...ion spot a sexy chocolate in that group sooooo yea Give her props


Tejsociety
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numba 9 shuldve won


BKLYNSOWN
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@ Kerrin Yea you right alot of hispanics have self hate issues you could find the darkest dominican, brazilian, cuban, honduran, belizean etc. and they'll deny being black like their life depended on it not all on them are like that though some of them take pride in it & accept the fact their afro-latino


Dvalorio
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I went to school with a Haitian girl who looks like her. Not all Haitians look like Wyclef and not all of the are poor either. But is does seem like all the rich ones looks a certain way and that stems from the classism the French instituted in Haiti centuries ago. All the women look nice with great bodies and they all look happy with one another. No problem.


TheDude
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This woman has every right to compete and win this pageant if she's able to. She was easily the best looking one out of the group. It has nothing to with her complexion. It's obvious that some people are just insecure. Their are a few idiots criticizing that mikeharris guy because of his alleged preference for lighter skinned women, but why is it alright for people to hate the fact that the new Miss Haiti is light skinned? Isn't that discrimination too? It's perfectly fine to discriminate against light skinned chicks, but it's wrong to discriminate against the dark ones?


Quisqueya_Boy
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so because she's mulatto, or lighter she cant represent the country she was born in, that her parents were born in? Sounds like a double standard to me. The world seems to have this negative connotation with Haiti as if it wasn't a Spanish imperialized/French colonized country. There are plenty of different races and faces there. We just need to respect the fact that nationality is nationality. I hate it when ppl are surprised my mother and her family are haitian because they have strong eurpoean features. Embrace beauty wherever it comes from!!!! She earned it, shes a hardworking lawyer that speaks 5 languages!


Dvalorio
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First of all you sound like a fool. The black Cubans are proud of their ancestry and they are nothing like the Dominicans and the Puerto Ricans. Don't even include the Brazilians in the mix because the Brazilians have always embraced their African roots and customs and culture. It is only the Spanish speakers who are this way and filled with self hate. Adriana Lima is French, Swiss and African and told the world this. The black and mixed race people of Brazil have always known who they were, likewise for the Afro Cubans. The Brazilians are African in culture, race, history...


missroni29
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Good for them after all that tradgedy!!!


monique2468
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MTO R U SERIOUS WHEN DID IT BECOME A CRIME 2 BE LIGHT SKINNED


BKLYNSOWN
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@ dcboi You ol' bama ass, go-go, wale listening, ignorant ass n*gga west indians are not the only people that use skin bleaching creams etc. you dumb ass n*ggas & Americans definitely are some of the people that are bleachers. Also Americans are KNOWN for self hate so how the f*ck did people from the caribbean bring something that was already in the country smh



ImStillHere
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Fuq y'all MTO, why can't a light skin woman represent haiti? Because she's not the shade y'all think a hatian woman should be.... so sad.


Dvalorio
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and those are the most important things, not the placement of their country in South America. And Haiti was a French imperialized,colonized country that the Haitians fought hard to overcome. They never loved their slavemasters the way the Dominicans loved the Spanish slavemasters.


BKLYNSOWN
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@ Dvalorio I didn't mean EVERY Afro-cuban/brazilian but if you're saying that every dark skin cuban or brazilian embraces it then GTFOH you're in denial.


Nothinsweetaboutme
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100% mulatto Haitian. Black people need to be proud of their skintone and African heritage. Stop the genetic genocide!!!


Melysa
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Shes prolly dominican


PrettiestMamiiAlive
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doesn't matter she's pretty


Dvalorio
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First all, I don't know every black Cuban neither do you. I don't care what the Dominicans and Puertos think or embrace because the world has determined that for them. So don't lump the Black and mixed race Brazilians in with the Hispanics, because in Brazil it is a different ballgame altogether. The race issues in Brazil are changing thanks to President Lula with more black Brazilians and mixed raced brazilians coming into the political and business hiercharchy. Like I said, Brazil is very different from its Spanish speaking neighbors and has always stood with its back against the wall when


MassyFbabey
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*** SHES NOT DOMINICAN CLEARLY SHE WON MISS HAITI 2010 MOST LIKELY THE FRENCH GENES IN HER FAMILY ARE STRONG DAMN IGNORANT PEOPLE SMH********


brooklynbeauty703
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i'm haitian & i know damn well that girl is NOT 100% haitian lol..she's proably mixed but she's pretty!


Dvalorio
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it comes to South America. Brazil has always been different from the rest of them. So is Argentina, which is predominately a European country that happens to be located in South America. 80% of the population of Argentina comes from various European countries.


NuMind
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Well Bob Marley's wife, MISS JAMACIA was white so why not a light skinned Hatian..i think the other four are more beautiful than her but thats my preference.


ITALIANSWIFEY35
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So what MTO always trying to start a damn race war,between blacks against each other MTO YA'LL MAKE ME SICK....NEED TO STOP THAT SH!T


mahogonydymond
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Quick question who is 100% ne thing n 2010? n the words of my granny we all hines 57


angelaheiressnyc
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@battybwoy: lol....I so agree,you're definitely on point! It's obvious mto wrote the headline such way because they know several bloggers on here love to unnecessarily discuss light vs darkskin issues on a regular,so don't blame Fred,blame yourselves because all he's doing is feeding some of ya'll insecurities/complexes. Be happy with whom you are embrace it & end of story! @topic: She's gorgeous,& just as much Haitian as every other woman on that stage so that's all that matters.


da-don1
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Mto it also got white ppl in the caribbean that is born an rise there stop talkin sh*t it happens



emmettmays85
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brainwashed my ass this bitch is fine, she looks better than all those broads in that pic @ bez senny hey how u doing?


MANSEMINOLE
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I heard she was of dominican decent, but she lives in haiti. I heard that her aunt was a famous lawyer that was murdered in Haiti or the dominican republic, so im not sure if her family fled to the dominican republic or what.


WILLIE_BEAMEN_13
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A YO @ MIKE U GOT PEOPLE WANNA KILL U HERE WITH THESE COMMENTS SON LOL


honeygirluk
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@ NuMind Bob marleys wife was not white she's black. His other woman(cindy breakspeare)was mixed race..


datbossbxtch
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first of all there are some creole haitians because before they got their independence they was ruled by the french.. (do your damn research before you start judging people) second it dosen't matter what color she is she is still beautiful. So stop hating and trying to start race wars mto


TheDude
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@ Dvalorio A few years ago, Brazil had to create an affirmative action like law just to give Afro-Brazilians better opportunities. It's changing now, but at the time only 5% of jobs in the Brazilian government were held by Blacks and there was only a very small percentage of Blacks allowed to get education in that country as well. Add to the fact that Brazil is 54% Black it's extremely hard to say Brazil is different from other latin countries. I read a poll that showed about 80% of Afro-Brazilians didn't view themselves as black. They're not too different from some of the others.


angelaheiressnyc
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Btw,for the ppl claiming she's of Dominican decent?if ya'll ask me,I find Dominicans & Haitians to be pretty much the same so it's al good LOL. Besides them being neighbors,their ancestry is very similar only that Haitians speak French & Creole....just saying


Dvalorio
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Central America Belize is a English speaking country (officially) colonized by the English. They speak other languages as well but consider themselves to be mostly affiliated with other Central American and caribbean countries. Belize people were enslaves as well and have an interesting racial history. If you want to know more about Belize look up their governmental sites to learn the truth. Most of the people in Belize speak Kriol.


bklynkey718
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Haitians do come in all shades.. but it's funny how they pick the LIGHTEST one to win these competition.. I'm going to agree with MTO on this one.... But congrats i guess!


NYCDIVA34
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U MEAN 2 TELL ME THEY HAVE MONEY FOR A PAGEANT , BUT CAN'T REBUILD WHAT WAS DESTROTED BY THE EARTHQUAKE? THEIR PRIORITIES ARE F'D UP...SMH


lahaitiana
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Umm MTO...we have all kinds of looks in Haiti and this girl is not even close to the lightest we have...get a better topic to talk about,stop relying on what the media portrays as Haiti and do your research like a real journalist should. Stop this light vs dark thing as well.If you did your research you would know our last Miss Haiti was very dark came still came in as 1st runner up in the Miss Universe competition in 1975...we had lighter Haitians then too. Do any of the girls in the picture look like they're spewing hat...they all look like they have love to me!!


NYCDIVA34

dia4u2njoy
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1st of not all Haitian are dark skin MTO is so fucking ignorant next time you want to post a story go do your research about Haiti because obviously MTO don't no shit about Haiti. Fucking stereotyping when yah don't no shit.


Dvalorio
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About 54% of the population of Brazil are mixed with African and European so they wouldn't be exclusively African/Black. But they see themselves as people of African descent which is why the cultures of Nigeria and Angola are so strong in Brazil. Even the language they speak is a kind of pidgin Portuguese different from European Portuguese, because so many African words has influenced the language. I don't worry about polls anymore. Naturally, people flock to the groups with the power...that will change in the future. The important thing is that the Black/mixed race people of Brazil have


bklynkey718
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But nonetheless all of them are beautiful young ladies.... VIVA HAITI!!!



Dvalorio
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always known who they were and celebrated it even when the ruling white Europeans locked them out.


tuff-tony
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realfakeazzroxxanne..stfu!...got damn...


t1andonly1
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I don't see why this is an issue...just be happy for her


z0taylor
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lighter she be better she lookz those kind of light skin we called them grimel


IslandGirl86
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What an ignorant statement my MediaTakeout!! Haitians got in all different races. To be Haitian is a NATIONALITY and there is diversity in the nation. Haitians are not just dark-skinned. This website promotes nothing but ignorance and lies.


Shylar
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Stupidest comment ever from MTO. So you think she is too light - there are 400 million people in the US and almost 400 million shades of skin tone. Almost EVERY country is like that. You saying shes too light is RIDICULOUS.


angelaheiressnyc
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@emmettmays85: Chilling but busy..hope all is good with you & have a great day :)


shi
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Here we go again, I'll hate to see what other comments are coming!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


DrizzyDrakeRogers
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Black hoes never looked good none of these chicks look good this the best haiti got to offer smh any pr girl can outclass that trash


shi
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She's Beautiful, as well as the others!!!


TheDude
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@ Dvalorio I doubt too many Afro-Brazilians in general are exclusively African/Black in the first place. When talking about the descendants of slaves, you won't find too many Blacks in North or South America who are exclusively of African descent. How can you say they view themselves as being of African descent when a lot have said they don't?


Okay123
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MTO is either really stupid or really really smart...


BluBoy
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YOU BLACKS can lie to yourselves all you want to but MOST HATIANS ARE DARKBROWNSKINNED!!!..THIS IS WHY GOD PUNISHED THEM CAUSE MOST of them HATE THEMESELVES! ITS ONLY or mainly darkskinned black men that put lightskinned females on a pedestal and TRASH THEIR OWN FEMALES THAT ARE THE SAME SKIN COLOR AS THEM!!..like some of these comments on here from darkskinned black men!YES IT IS SELF-HATE AND TO ignore this and act like MOST OF THE WORLD IS LIGHTSKINNED is just DELUSIONAL!!...DARKSKINNED PEOPLES populate MOST of the world but yet they alwayz want us lighterskinned black folks or bi or multi-racials to represent them!!!...SMDH just pathetic!! WILL DARKSKINNED BLACK ever learn to LOVE THEMSELVES???...TUNE IN FOR another episode of the TWILIGHT ZONE LATER!!!...


BATTYBWOY
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All I want to know is why are people comparing Dominicans, Haitians, and everything else. Neither one of these are races. It's called MISS HAITI!!!!!!!!!!! Not MISS BLACK HAITI. Just because most of you tend to identify Haiti with being black, there are other races in Haiti. Just like there are whites born in Africa.


emmettmays85
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tuff-tony whats up? im in florida right now, hey i like how u said u would slap the face off of realroxxanne skull, i wish Tastysis was online



BriaAlexandria
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Good for her. She is pretty. But what I don't understand is why our BLACK COMMUNITY always feels the need to tear each other down. We are SUPPOSED to encourage, uplift, & "stick up" for one another. Instead, we insolently attack each other over this "lightskin" vs. "darkskin" nonsense. Beauty comes in ALL SHADES PEOPLE! Just b/c I am darkskinned doesn't make me less appealing than a light, bright female. We've gotta stop ignorantly abusing each other like this! BLACK IS BEAUTIFUL!


spoonyl
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that's such a stereotype because there are light, medium and dark toned haitians


slimgoodywoody
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she can get it majorly


vstar2cute
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First of all, MTO the first Haitians to ever be known in Haiti, were the Native Indians. If you don't know your history, go into Wikipedia .com and look it up. She is beautiful to be crown Miss Haiti 2010 aiight..if she is a problem for you guys... imagine my image...a lot people are confuse because I look Indian and truth be told, I am Haitian!!!!


nycz
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Don't they have better things to do?...Like clean up their 10th world country?


JBeast1
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Ppl need to understand all this sh!t started when massia had the blk negroes in the cotton field and had there mixed kids working in the house. So some how we keep this sh!t going with our kids. SMH


shi
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@7lady, I'M DARK SKIN AND I LOVE MYSELF! I LOVE EVERYTHING ABOUT ME! BEAUTY COMES IN ALL SKIN TONES. I THINK YOU WERE CONDITION TO THINK THE WAY YOU DO! I CAME FROM A STRONG FAMILY BACKGROUND THAT TAUGHT ME TO LOVE MYSELF REGARDLESS....


honeygirluk
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95% of Haitians are black of african origin. 5% are mixed race(black/white) or white. It's not has multiracial as some are making out.


emmettmays85
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the reason this woman won because she looked better than the rest of the contestants cased closed stop bitchin


tuff-tony
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@emmett..what's up brother..what you doin in florida mane..now you movin on to tastysis..that's my estranged e-wife..but ah..since you ain't in love with trulee anymore..how would you feel if i try an make her mine..


Autumn
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Did someone just refer to Wikipedia as a reliable research source? Lol be serious. But I think it's crazy that everyone has bought into the same standard of beauty.... but then again I didn't see the contest so I really don't know why she won I can only speculate.


coco526
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MTO yall put this up here on purpose just to start a racial debate.INSTIGATORS


BluBoy
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YES we already know BLACK PEOPLE COME IN ALL SHADES but THE TRUTH IS MOST BLACK people look like the 4 other darkskinned finalists in the first pic and MOST BLACKS LOOK LIKE ALL THE DARKSKINNED FEMALES SURROUNDING the LIGHTBRIGHT in the second pic!!!...


bklynkey718
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evolve why don't you drink some drano and if that don't kill you fast enough slit your wrist...Good day!


CeCe_716
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once again, this light vs dark s*it just doesnt stop does it wow



emmettmays85
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ladytopshotta73 please come back i miss u


GoneBad
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I don't think she should have one especially since Haiti went threw all of that. We don't see light skin people in haiti running like wild fire we saw Black people who reminded us of what happened in Africa. I have family in DR and she reminds me of them, they need to take that crown away from her she don't deserve it !!!!


shi
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@BLUBOY I WOULD BE ANGRY AT YOUR COMMENT, BUT MOST OF IT IS TRUE. SAD, BUT TRUE. HOWEVER, WHAT I SEE IS, IT'S NOT THE DARK SKIN PPL HATING THEMSELVES, IT'S THE LIGHTER COMPLEXTION THAT HAVE PROBLEMS WITH THE DARKER COMPLEX. JUST LOOK AT THE COMMENTS. THE DARKER THE SKIN THE DEEPER THE ROOTS IS A VERY TRUE STATEMENT! WE WERE TAUGHT TO LOVE OURSELVES NO MATTER WHAT. WE HAD TO BE STRONG. AND TRUST ME, WE DON'T WORRY ABOUT THE NEXT PERSON BECAUSE WE KNOW OUR SELF WORTH!


Miszfr3sh1
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things happen .. so, how about them celtics?


shamore
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I've been telling people that there are light skin haitian, finally some proof but i think the one in the yellow should of won


emmettmays85
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tuff-tony its cool i cant get mad, cause iwas being a manwhore flirtin with other females, so it would be hypocrtical if i were to get mad if she do the same thing, it would have never worked out with us anyway, she wanted marriage and me i just wanted to bang as many females as i could b4 i take a dirtnap and she was religious and me, im a renegade ,since Tastysis aint mad @ me no more im so glad she aint mad at me no more , i never meant to make her mad


tipz09
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I wish this mike harris dude would STFU!..and who cares...is this really news? black comes in all colors.....NEXT!


EliteOne
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we arent gettn into the light dark thing...this is not worth reading...its horrible add me http://www.facebook.com/#!/profile.php?id=1789005345


scorpio_cutie89
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How come its ok to talk mad sh*t about a lightskinned girl....but the second some1 say something foul about a darkskinned girl all hell breaks loose? I mean be fair. Hell getting talked about hurts just as bad if your dark or light. And the sad part about is its mostly our own people that talks sh*t about the different shades. Get the f*ck over it. How do we expect other races to respect us and we cant even respect each other.......so annoyed


TheThirdEye
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If you judge solely on looks, yes, she deserved to win. She is the most attractive and its not because of her skin tone. Her body is bangin and she has a gorgeous smile and bone structure. The only one in my honest opinion who held her any type of competition in the looks deparment was #13. And she is the darkest who happens to have a nice body too, a pretty smile as well. U could lighten her up and I'd still say in the she wasn't gonna win according to looks.


GeorgiaPeachATL
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Damn, is it so far fetched that SHE might have just been the better chpice. Don't fault her for what color she is. I swear folks on here have THE most issues re:color. I'm brown and love it and I love all black folks light or purple. I have both in my family and I dodnt discriminate against shade. Guess what? We would ALL be workn for massa in one way or another. Still seen as a lesser being...


TheThirdEye
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Now if the winner gave dumb answers to the questions and still won, then we have a problem.


garcia_kattia
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It does not seem odd to me. For some reason the lighter shade always win. If it was all white women, the blonde hair blue eye women would win..Sad but true..


dabaddestmilf
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She's the prettiest, and not cuz she's lightskinned


emmettmays85
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Miszfr3sh1 fuck da celtics



bellgrl
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Well, I never hold my tongue, so here goes...What do you expect? It's a light, white world. That is the closest thing to the ideal in the world. Everyone loves God, but they don't want to look like God.... Look at the not so subtle advertising for loreal hair color ads. The name of the product is "Preference" and also "Excellence". And they have white women on the boxes. Yes they are advertising for mainly white women, but it is what it is.


da-don1
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So wat some of yall sayin is that light skin is betta?smh...Thats america for u an even around the world kidds go to there skool an get tease on cuz of there complexion dont even make no sense to me cuz whether your complexion our *ss was still in the cotton fields fightin for freedom an parents teach there kidds that dumb sh*t too so blame the parents cuz it starts wit the parents


emmettmays85
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TheThirdEye hey baby who is that in yo avi?


TheThirdEye
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Emmett U can't say hi. Mmmm... lol okay I gotchu


ZOELIFE407
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NAW NOT AT ALL IM 100% HAITIAN AND SO IS SHE SO IF SHE WINS REGARDLESS OF HOW LIGHT SHE IS GOOD FOR HER SHES HAITIAN SO EITHER WAY SHES DESERVES IT PLUS SHES BEAUTIFU YOU DONT HAVE TO BE A DARKER TONE TO REPRESENT HAITI HAITIANS COME IN ALL SHADES AYITI FA LIFE


DonSimmons
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I am going to stop coming to this site altogether. After the blatant lies yesterday, today they post a thread that has no point other than to get black people arguing about color. Black is black! This is toxic and makes me wonder who is REALLY behind mediatakeout. Seriously MTO the School Daze stuff is negative and just horrible. And my response to your question is that IT DOESN'T MATTER. She is Haitian and she is beautiful (as are the others). The notion that it's tone rather than mentality that makes you black is just retarded


emmettmays85
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tipz09 some sistas feel like light skinned sistas are not black enough , thats why they bitch and complain


bellgrl
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Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. And she is not the "prettiest" to me. They are all pretty and pleasant to look at, but honestly I think that it's the most brainwashed ones who feel that she won hands down. Look deep inside of yourselves for once.


nifitalan
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Trust a yellow bone to be the winner, either way she is beautiful


tuff-tony
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@emmett..just checkin your tempreature mane..i like yo style brother..you have graduated the mentorship program with honors..now imma enroll you in the advance degree program..gonna get you that PHD..lol.


TheRealRuckus
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Well of COURSE they gave it to her. I mean in the final 5 you have a baboon, an ape, a gorilla, a mandrill and a pretty redbone. LOL, nah for real, # 13 and 14 are UGLY and #2 and 9 are just average. Of course she won she was the best looking! She looks good and these niggggas know it. The only ones with a problem are these big, fat, coal black, ugly nappy headed women who know that most men would climb over them to get to a woman like Ms. Haiti.


TheThirdEye
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lightskin isn't a race, you're ignorant. So when you say black women have gone crazy, that's includes light skin as well.


Trulee
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What do you mean 'a light symbol for Haiti'? Y'all writers (and I use that term loosely) are some misguided colorstruck folk, I tell ya. Haiti is on the island of Hispaniola which is shared with Dominican Republic, therefore just as there are some light Dominicans, there are also some light Haitians. It's due to something called 'integrating'. Are you even remotely familiar with that word/concept? *This thread is gonna reach 5-600's today with a whole lotta e-banging in between. :-/


blackwater
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hmmm very discouraging for the dark skinned girls this is why they are bleaching their skin ...this is kinda like havin a toyota car show and they let someone wit a lamborghini in...lmao so not fair


kedarhaze24
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I hope Americans knows that the north part of Haitian are all mixed and white. Haiti is not just made of dark skinned people. There are white born Haitian that does not know english but creole and French. My husband is dark but his sister is fair skin; same parents. Black people should already know our blood are already mix. And Non-African American blacks knows their culture and values.



aat
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yea she's pretty.but they no dang well they could've picked 1 of the darker girls cuz they were beautiful 2.


da-don1
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It should not even matter cuz "dont matter who u are miss u could get the bizness"....only b*tch dudes look for the dont matter sh*t about a women


Trulee
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From tuff-tony: too me..the rank in order of beauty..from 1st to last..14,13,2,9,7..hmmm..i should play them as some lotto numbers.. *If you win, give me a dolla and Harold Melvin & Bluenotes cd. (mine is skipping when I play it now) HA!


RETURNOFYAIDOL
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DAMN SHE BAD, she can put a hex on me anyday....LMAO...but on some real sh!t tho, if she haitian, what difference do it make what's the color of her skin.....PHUCK ALL U SIMPLE MINDED MUTHAPHUCKAZ


blackwater
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shhhhit im a keep it real i grew up in brooklyn ny, and im haitian i aint never ever ever ever seen a haitian female that look like that thats real talk and thats from a dude who goes to haitian only parties from the age of 12 to 28 ...im just sayin she is a rare find.


emmettmays85
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tipz09 uf rom b'ham?


tuff-tony
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@evolve..what you tryin to do is see through..but let me tell you this..that CNN special just is more confirmation and gives more credence to the fact..that every white person on this planet supports white supremacy..it is indoctrinated in everyone from the time of birth by the language..symbols..and customs imposed on almost every person on this planet..the problem is that too many non-whites support white supremacy also..it's called mental slavery..


Trulee
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Hi outtaline2 <<< closes robe tightly and distances self. lol


KEKE_CASABLANCA
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Smh @ some of these comments. Unfortunately, guys, at the end of the day.. To white ppl--- you're all BLACK! Fair to Mocha- you're still a minority!! Try walking up to a kkk member saying "oh but I'm lightskin.." lmao. Black ppl!!! So funny!!!!!


tuff-tony
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@trulee..lol..i don't have to win the lotto..to give you what you want..or need..just say that's your wish..and i'll make all your dreams come true..


Whitley4u
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Ctfu @outtaline2,Damn why don't you get off MTO already with your pitiful,worthless,and pathetic ass??You always talking shit like go find something else productive with yourself to do than spew a bunch of hate,you fucking ape ass gorilla.Go get a fucking job instead of talking shit and hating on people with your southern,slow,and country ass.LMAO------>>Next!!


Romeo4ya2
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Congrats to the winner, people haiti is a country not a race


SamHaine
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...MTO done finally made a point...why did they pick that redbone/ high yella over da others...haters...like MikeHarris ya Baby Phat booty jeans with a thong underneath wearing ass nicca!!!... follow me, MikeHarris aka MikeFerry bka Atlanta's Anal Annihilator on twitter...flamers and HIV carriers only...


emmettmays85
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tuff-tony in a lil bit im about to go to my lil nephew piano recital, i got alot of female fans on here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6If4uSFbgM&NR=1


ILoveOldSkoolRB
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Black people are some of the most naïve, delusional people on the planet. Stevie Wonder could see what's going on here. You know good and well that most Haitians are dark skinned and it wasn’t by accident they picked a woman that had LSLH. People keep saying how tired of the debates over LS/DS, but it is what it is. Not talking about it isn’t going to make it go away.



Br0wnG0ddess
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1st- Does a dark girl have 2 win every year. 2nd- quit acting like ls people are less black than ds people. 3rd- those are sum pretty darkskinned in shape ladies. US sistas take note; that's y lslh chicks get all the attention.


Whitley4u
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@CTFU,Sit your ape looking,country dirty ass down.You stay talking shit with your broke ass.........>>Next!


tuff-tony
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@ezra..what's happenin' my beautiful sista..your assesssment of evolve is right on..in my estimation..i won't even reason or argue with the mutant..i'll allow him/her to wallow in its ignorance..while i learn from and enjoy reading comments from you and the other righteous brothers and sistas on here..you and yours enjoys the beautiful day..much love.


tuff-tony
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@emmett..that's wus up..support..how old is your lil dude..


ILoveOldSkoolRB
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kedarhaze24 I hope Americans knows that the north part of Haitian are all mixed and white. Haiti is not just made of dark skinned people. There are white born Haitian that does not know english but creole and French. My husband is dark but his sister is fair skin; same parents. Black people should already know our blood are already mix. And Non-African American blacks knows their culture and values. ---------------------------- I don’t care if they are white, light or polka dot. Out of all the region of Haiti, they just happened to pick the lighter skinned female. If there were others that looked like her, I would say, maybe it isn’t about color, but all the other women are DARK SKINNED. Do you really think this is a coincidence. Black people, WAKE UP AND GET YOUR HEADS OUT OF YOUR ARSE. You know good and well they picked her because she was LSLH. Quit trying to explain it away because you don’t like the subject matter.


SmeeZez
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goddayum i love me some light skinned females ;p


cremesaver
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yeah MTO YOU would question it based on your supreme ignorance!!


emmettmays85
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tuff-tony thats my lil nephew he is 8 , he will be 9 next month,some of these women and some of the men on here are just ignorin the fact that this woman that won ,looks better than the rest of these chicks,


Tcholesworld
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of course shes light skinned


tuff-tony
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@emmett..glad to see the lil brothers into something positive..as for the beauty contest..i respectfully disagree..imo..she is not the prettiest..but most pagents are judged on a varity of catagories..but i can also understand the rational of the people who see something nefarious..


tuff-tony
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damn..outtaline..why is whitley4u goin in on you so hard..you didn't beat it right mane..lol.


ILoveOldSkoolRB
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SMH@ THINKING THAT HAITI IS MOSTLY DARK SKINNED HILARIOUS SO YOU MEAN TO TELL ME BECAUSE SHE'S LIGHT SKINNED SHES NOT HAITIAN OR BEAUTIFUL????? STFU MTO AND THE CO-SIGNERS THATS NEVER BEEN OUTSIDE THEIR CITY.....ESPECIALLY YOU TEXAN COUNTRY BUMPKINS ----------------------- And you mean to tell me that by COINCIDENCE, she just happens to be the only LSLH in the bunch and she won! Black people, don’t prove the rest of the world right when they accuse us of being stupid.


king1khan
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who cares how light she is? she really does look better than all the rest of 'em


JoAnna_Jolie
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UMMMM, SO WHAT AIN'T NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT I DON'T CARE WHAT COUNTRY THEIR IN!!!!!!!!!


ILoveOldSkoolRB
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It’s sad because I can see why that doll test on CNN, conducted in 2010, shows how black children think. Well, if posters on MTO represent parents of some of these black children, I can see why they have a negative view of black people. By the comments here today, many blacks refuse to acknowledge that colorism exists today. You’d have to be living under a rock to not notice it. Our music videos, commercials, magazines depicting LSLH as the ideal beauty (because it’s closer to white) is common. Why some of you fail to open your eyes and see that show me that you either do live under a rock, you are naïve, or just plain don’t want to see the obvious.



Br0wnG0ddess
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Umm just about every Miss Haiti is darkskinned. So since the majority of the country is ds a ls can never win? I could see if this was trend, but this is like the 1st time. Why do people pay attention 2 Mike Harris? He'll fade away like Redsexxi & Lottahead21.


iTeach4aLiViN
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Haiti like many other Caribbean countries have much diversity in skin color because of their African Lineage. So while most tend to go for the light skinned woman as beautiful, there is no reason why there is something wrong with this young woman being crowned Miss Haiti because she comes from a country in which the perception is that women from there are dark in complexion.


ILoveOldSkoolRB
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king1khan, if you are a black man, your comment is quite typical. The fact that you say the Willie Lynch letters are a hoax, it might be, but in theory, you've proven the concept is right!


MrSarcasticIsBack
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I TRIED TELLING NIGGAS THAT I USED TO HAVE A LIGHT SKIN HAITIAN GIRL BACK IN DAYS NO1 BELIEVE ME.


Trulee
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Enjoy your recital Emm.


ILoveOldSkoolRB
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Haiti like many other Caribbean countries have much diversity in skin color because of their African Lineage. So while most tend to go for the light skinned woman as beautiful, there is no reason why there is something wrong with this young woman being crowned Miss Haiti because she comes from a country in which the perception is that women from there are dark in complexion. --------------------- There is something wrong with it because the "light is right" concept keeps being playing out. Don’t you guys get it??? It couldn’t be more obvious. If this was a poisonous snake, most of you guys would’ve been dead by now.


Trulee
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tuff-tony You about to give me a cavity! :P


shi
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AS A DARK SKIN WOMAN, THE ONLY THING I'M CONCERN ABOUT IS PPL THINKING WE DON'T LIKE OURSELVES! GET OFF OUR TITS!!!!!!!!!!!!!


babette
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Mto is very stupith, true beauty has no color. Am dark and beautifull.


tuff-tony
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@outtaline..join the club brother..atleast you gotta woman stalkin' you..i got that lil fay-get 2fly2cool(aka texascalibur) followin me everywhere..


YENVEME
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because she looked better dah


tuff-tony
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@trulee..well what you bout to give me..cuz i'll take what i can get..and i'm sure i'll be satisfied..


Manifest
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She a beautiful girl but she doesn't look Haitian, she looks like a straight up Dominican chick. And Blacks have been brain washed to worship light skin. Look at all of our actors/singers in American media. 90 percent of them are light skin African Americans. Black people are ridiculous because all of you continue to allow yourselves to get mind f_cked by the white media. Black people have a white standard of beauty, they don't even have a black standard of beauty. VERY awkward.


Riann
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Mike Harris, get the fuck out of here with your 3rd grade education having ass. Stick to redbones Ok...Nobody wants your ignorant ass. Your mother must have hated you. Were you born or were you hatched. You simple son of a bitch.


Whitley4u
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CTFU @OuttaLine2,"stalker"?????Never dat,Im coming at your ass because your always talking shit.Arent you the same one that came at me on the Toya post last week?Ahh yeah,kill yourself,your NOT even my cup of tea.



NovaUKnowMe
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Uggghh...stop hatin....as you all said..they come in all "skin tones" so hop off.


babette
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@mikeharris, your very dom and ugly. And your dark just like me, you dammm FOOL. Get a life and leave the BLACK women alone.


mixedbraud90
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@realroxxanne, @blackwater, the haitian that co-signed w/ yu never really seen a lightskinned haitian, Yu guys are all truly pathetic, including all the others such as realmelyssa.. Just because haiti has 5 percent mixed, WHICH HAS PROBABLY GROWN, if the country has more than 5 million inhabitants, think of how much the 5 percent is!!! I am a caramel haitian, i have friends who are lighter than her who are haitian they have french ancestry but WILL ONLY CLAIM HAITI!.. i have friends w/ lebanese &dominican descent.BUT WILL ONLY CLAIM HAITI.my own family has japanese, dominican, cuban, french in it. cut the CRAP! stop stereotyping.Of course the media wont show you the liteskinned haitians, but by all means stop by my church, and you will see all of us in different shades,with different hair lengths. STOP FALLING FOR WHAT THE MEDIA SAYS, RESEARCH ON YUR OWN.AND JUST BECAUSE SOMEONE IS HAITIAN, SHE CANT BE LIGHT,"THEY MUST HAVE PICKED HER UP FROM THE WRONG SIDE OF THE ISLAND" IF THATS THE CASE, JOSE REYES IS A DARK SKINNED DOMINICAN, SHOULD HAITI CLAIM HIM, BECAUSE HES "DARK-SKINNED"..GTOH,pure ignorance


Symone2287
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well mto, there's skin tones of all kinds, there as it is everywhere else, in the world, why is this a suprise, i'm pretty sure, she has black in her!!! ugh moving on......


Jill_Scott
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I feel sorry for light skinned women sometimes, because the majority of dark skinned women hate you @$$es for being born lighter. I thought we were all black, but if your not super dark, it seems to not be good enough for some women. Grow Up and Get Over It!!!!


Mz_Xclusive
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MIKE HARRIS UR AN IDIOT! MY BESTFRIEND IS DARK SKIN AND SHE HAS LONG NATURAL HAIR. YOU SOUND SO DUMB


liciouscherry
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iam disapointed in ya MTO .ppl cums in differnt shade of colors just because sum1 is haitian dnt expect them 2 b dark i knw sum haitians taht dnt even look haitian i love haitians : ) nd skin tone dont have shyt 2 do wit it admit it she was the most beautyful ter all of tem pretty doe.fair nd square lolzxx to evryone under me well XXXXXXXX ;)


Constancebenzua
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FIRST WHY THE FUCC ARE SOME OF YOU BEING BIASED.SO BECAUSE SHES LIGHT SHE CANT BE IN A PAGAENT AND SHE CANT BE HAITIAN RIGHT?. IS IT BECAUSE YOU FEEL AS THOUGH U THINK SHE LOOKS BETTER AND WOULD TAKE THE PRIZE BUT DONT WANT TO ADMIT IT?? HOW ABOUT WHEN THEIR ARE WHITE PAGENTS AND THEY HAVE A FEW DARK WOMEN IN THEIR YET ALOT OF YOU SAY THEY SHOULD HAVE CHOSEN THE BLACK GIRL. I DONT GET IT IM TOTALLY LOST HERE. THIS COLORISN THING IS SO DUMB I DONT SEE WHY ALOT OF YOU THINK ABOUT IT ALL DAY EVERYDAY.


liciouscherry
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ediots> ya think haitians suppose to b blak and ugly well ya guess wrong muthafuckers hahaha lmfao Anyone below me XXXXXX ur self


Power2Me

tuff-tony
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ahhhhh..look at mikeharris gettin all philamasofical an sh!t..go head on brother..speak your piece..lol.


Africanqueen123
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I love MTO and their race baiting. I see ur point. why does the lightest have to get the crown, anyway,, I love alll color


shi
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@MIKEHARRIS, YOU'RE ENTITLED TO YOUR OPINIONS, AND THAT'S ALL IT IS AN OPINION! NOT EVERYONE THINK LIKE YOU! I MUST SAY SOME OF YOUR COMMENTS ARE IMMATURE, I WOULD SAY PLEASE FINISH YOUR COLLEGE EDUCATION LIVE A LIL, AND PLEASE TRAVEL AROUND THE GLOBE AND SEE HOW YOUR THINKING CHANGE. THERE IS MORE TO LIFE THAN THE SOUTH!! WHICH IS PART OF THE REASON YOU THINK THE WAY YOU DO....


oneils
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why should light skin matter


DeeLaLa
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Well not all Haitians are dark skin. The other girls are pretty eespecially the one in the middle with the twisty mohawk



Power2Me
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Mike Harris is a real troll. RealRoxanne and Mike Harris are probably the same people.


Tastysis
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Mikeharris I know ur a plant so ill try to keep it short! What u r saying to blk men is to leave blk women??? What u r proposing is genocide for the blk community! U r a piece of rotten shyte, a maggot and u r a disgrace to blacks as a whole! Ur mother must be proud!


Tastysis
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This girl is pretty but honestly r we surprised? I don't subscribe to the idea that she isn't the best candidate but I just find it ironic that the only "red bone" of the competition won!Hati Jamicia, Brazil, and Hondurus have some of the worse self-hatred in the world! Smdh!


Trulee
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That's alright outtaline2, I'm not letting tuff-tony go nowhere. tuff-tony I will wrap you in a blanket full of warm, kisses.


PrettyAssDae
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This is so effin dumb i swear, dudes yall are the main ones discriminating against lightskin black women and darkskin black women, but then you guys get mad if you see a darkskin or a lightskin dude getting more attention than you.. its a skintone.. thats all and the different shades of ethnic people is what makes us beautiful its so damn ignorant for some of you to sit up here and say everybody else is racist against us when we are self prejudice thats what the white man wanted to do to us when they first brought us to america..posion our minds so we can grow to hate each other


Godzson
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its not about how light she is, she is obviously the prettiest. And if she's hatian, what more do you want?


Tastysis
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Liciouscherry Why does being dark have to be synmous with being ugly! Ur mind is in cell block C-4, and u need help b4 u find ur self and ur children in Solitary confinement!


uglamone
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Beauty is shown in your actions, (the way you present yourself)the way you treat others, your faith in GOD, and lastly....... if it even matters your physical appearance. Also, beauty comes in different complexions it does not discriminate!!!


Jill_Scott
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And since when is natural long hair, not something that would make a woman appear more beautiful? Stop hating women with long hair that is their own. Some women have been cosigning this Rhianna, Amber, Halle Berry dyke hairdo for too long to recognize that the majority of people associate beautiful hair with long healthy hair. Short hair is something you have no choice but to "pull off" , because you can't grow healthy long hair, and just have to work with what you have.


Trulee
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Oh wow! American Violet is on BET!! Has anyone seen that film? It came out in '08 and it's based on a true story about a young Sister who has 4 children in Texas and she's accused of pushing drugs, but she's innocent. She's faced with either pleading guilty or just straight up going to prison & losing her children. Alfre Woodard and Xzibit is in it. I was so mad b/c this film was only in a few theaters for like 2 weeks and the theaters were not local, and I'm in NYC. But we all know why a film with this kind of substance would get no widespread play. I'm out. tuff-tony I'll keep it warm 4 U


nicole10
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MIKE HARRIS IS THE TYPICAL DARK SKINNED IGNORANT PUNK WHO PUT LIGHT SKINNED WOMEN ON A PEDESTAL. DO YOU HATE YOUR MAMA, IS SHE UNATTRACTIVE BECUZ SHE'S AS DARK AS YOU.YOU ARE SO IGNORANT,I KNOW LOTS OF BEAUTIFUL DARK SKINNED WOMEN, GABRIELLE UNION, ANANDA LEWIS, TATYANA ALI, CHILI, SO GO SUCK A COCK LITERALLY!


Prettylady4life
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SHE IS BEAUTIFUL AND SHE DOESN'T REPRESENT THE MAJORITY OF HAITI WOMAN. MOST HAITI WOMAN ARE NOT LIGHT SKINNED OR PRETTY.


lostblackqueen
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Do all African Americans want to breed with whites so all our offspring will be mixed? Would that make us feel better? SMDH


Trulee
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outtaline2 LOL I see you've just sexually assaulted me. I'm calling 119!


Sucre
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But why couldnt she be sexy dark chocolate? Im so tired of this misconception that all beautiful black women are light skinned. Id totally expect ms. haiti to be a dark chocolate sister. SMDH



ILoveOldSkoolRB
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Godzson - It’s not obvious to ME that she’s the prettiest. The woman doesn’t even LIVE in Haiti. She lives in the DR and we all know Dominican’s are colorstruck to the 100th power.


innocentetn
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BEING A LIGHT SKINNED HAITAIN WOMAN, I MUST SAY IT IS TRUE THAT LIGHT SKINNED PPL ARE MORE DESIRABLE. I DONT BELIEVE THIS VIEW BUT, IT IS VERY REAL. I WAS TREATED AS A PRIZE GROWING UP BECAUSE MY SKIN WAS LIGHT. SOME PPL ALSO HATED ME BECAUSE I HAD LIGHT SKIN AND HAZEL EYES.


ILoveOldSkoolRB
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But why couldnt she be sexy dark chocolate? Im so tired of this misconception that all beautiful black women are light skinned. Id totally expect ms. haiti to be a dark chocolate sister. SMDH ------------------ Anyone with brain cells connected can see the OBVIOUS colorism. I mean, can you imagine if a black woman won Miss Utah? No one would be expecting that because Utah doesn’t have a large black demographic. There is a brother named Jay Love who posts videos on YouTube. He tried to educate black people, but he gave up because they just didn’t get it. He concluded that many black people are mentally ill. The roots of slavery have grown so deep, that they don’t have a sense of reality.


lostblackqueen
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THE ONLY REASON PEOPLE ARE SAYING SHES THE PRETTIEST IS BECAUSE SHE IS LIGHTEST IT'S AMAZING HOW PEOPLE DON'T SEE THAT!


dollish
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mto only brought this up so ppl can net fight all day always net fightin about blk and wht. Now that its a black woman ppl complain about skin tones


rude_one
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Th girl is obviously beautiful however, I feel the motives behind this decision are not for the best


tuff-tony
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@trulee...mmmmm that sounds delicious..with your soft kisses..and your raidiant soft brown skin..you would generate such nice feelings..loving you would come naturally..i'd look into your beautiful eyes and say..lets stay lifetime lovers..but ah..i want some of that curry chicken too though..lol.


ILoveOldSkoolRB
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dollish - And we will continue to complain about it (actually, some of us will) until it’s been eradicated. Did you not see the CNN special with Anderson Cooper not too long ago? It’s a known fact that people still equate beauty with white or light skin. Actually, I wish more people would complain instead of just accepting it or playing it off like it doesn’t happen.


emmettmays85
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Tastysis hey baby , i was thinkin about u


Tastysis
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Jill scott Please stfu! Hair is hair whether it is short, long, str8, curly or nappy! This has nothing to do with hair lengh, and black women can have beautiful long locks, just like whites can be bald headed! Iloveoldschool I co-sign! A lot of blacks, hell I believe most blacks are mentality when u think about what we do to ourselves and each other! Look @ all these crazy mudaphuckers on this thread!


emmettmays85
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oh yeah im back bitches


bourgie_girl
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what an obvious attempt by mto to bait the fking light skinned/dark skinned issue again. SMH. You just knew this would get a lot of comments didnt u?


Trulee
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tuff-tony: Oh I would make sure you are well fed, with some of my delicious curry chicken and I will take you over the top with some 'dessert'. 'Cause just like the song in the movie "The Mack", I choose you baby...


ILoveOldSkoolRB
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Tastysis - Finally, someone gets it. Thank you, sister. I mean, I guess I shouldn’t be surprised b/c this is MTO, but at least they could acknowledge that colorism is in full force with their decision to pick this lady as Miss Haiti. She’s the only light skinned chick in the bunch, and it’s just coincidence they picked her. Yes, mental illness is pervasive in our race.


dollish
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@ ILoveOldSkoolRB why do u care about what other ppl think what beauty is? Looks can always fade. There are more important things to worry about



emmettmays85
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i hate this whole brainwashed by the media rhetoric, i would'nt have no problem if women did'nt scream it so much, always puttin niggas under a microscope for the motive as to why they find a certain woman attractive , that is such a fuckin cop out


Tastysis
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Hey Emmett! How r u? Trulee and Tuff -t r creepin on us!


emmettmays85
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sexytranny lol i dont care im a bachelor, i always have a backup plan


OfficialElite
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Is it just me or does it look like she bleaches her skin? Her color doesn't look natural to me.


Romeo4ya2
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People haitian is not a race it's a nationality know the difference so what if she is light skin. I am sure you have spanish along with white and asian haitians out there. HMMMMMM


emmettmays85
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Tastysis i dont care ever since i won yo love back, all i could think about was u


ILoveOldSkoolRB
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@ ILoveOldSkoolRB why do u care about what other ppl think what beauty is? Looks can always fade. There are more important things to worry about -------------------------- Why do I care? I care because this way of thinking has been detrimental to the black race. We haven’t evolved. Did you not see that special on CNN where black children are still picking the lighter skin to represent beauty and good. Why don’t YOU care? These children are the future and they will not think highly of themselves because they can’t see the beauty in their blackness. That’s why I care. Yes, there are more important things to “worry about” but we aren’t doing anything about those either.


Trulee
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sexyt: Emm will be alright, he got ladytop and tastysis and can't forget sexymom. When Mr.Tony & I are together it feels like there is no one else in this world but us.


ILoveOldSkoolRB
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Romeo4ya2 - So what? You've all ready been informed. I’m sure there are races of Haitians, but let’s talk numbers, shall we? I’m sure the demographic is very small.


OrganicWhole
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She is not as Gorgeous as some of the others. Once again, the IGNORANCE of countless Black people, believing that being light skin or white is better and it is NOT!!! Absolutely NOT! Look at the sista in white pair of pants... she is GORGEOUS! That girl is a knock-out punch!!! This girl is ahrite!!! She ain't all that... too big, and too light!!!


PookieDaBoss
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non-american african descended women RULE.


mofioso
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boss of all bosses


EnticingBeing
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Imo she is the best looking of the 5


emmettmays85
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ILoveOldSkoolRB hey momma


M0FI0S0
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da bytch won b/c she look da best



OrganicWhole
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EXACTLY! Black is BEAUTIFUL and it doesn't have to be mixed with white to be better. It is the fucked up brainwashing the white man has done on Black people. All Diseases of the world come from the white man… that’s a fact! Oh yeah, they control the Media so they ALWAYS blame illnesses on miniorities etc... look at the deaths of the indigenous people in the Amazon Basin. As soon as the white man made contact to them, they died in droves… and somehow the white man has spun a story based on their habitat. Ahhhhhhhhh I know not so you lying bastards, it’s’ because you went in with your diseased infestations and killed those people off… as was the case with the American Indians. Michael X is right… the “white man is the DEVIL.”


Tastysis
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Iloveoldskool Here is some more truth! The only pic of this girl that is pretty is the one where she has on the beige bikini! I'd be curuios to c what the other ladies look like face on in their own pictures! If she is Dom, she is dark and probably wouldn't win in her own country! Ironic isn't it! Lol


pc7171
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THATS SOME BULL!


emmettmays85
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sexytranny i was being a manwhore, im not down for a love affair, just wanted to live life to da fullest


Br0wnG0ddess
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She was born in Haiti, but she moved 2 the DR when she was eight after her mother, a human rights lawyer, was assassinated. She's a lawyer 2 & she looks exactly like her.


tuff-tony
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@trulee..that's my favorite part of the movie..chinadoll said "remember me"..goldie said "i'd have to lose all the brain cells in my head to forget someone as fine as you"..lol..i know that movie by heart..oooh weee..baby..keep talkin like that..imma be sangin some of them isleys.."i wanna love you..over and over again.. i wanna see..see what your life..life can be hey, hey, baby..don’t say goodnight when you know it’s time for love..i gotta have your love"..


OrganicWhole
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Manifest is CORRECT!!! Read his or her post!!! Black people have been brainwashed to think light skin and white is better and looks better... bbbuuullllsshhiiitt!!!!! The people of the Sahara, Sudan, and Nubian are so GORGEOUS!!! Black Americans are as the United States, over processed, over pasteurized... and RUINED ... all in the name of the white man!!! Blacks in America have allowed the white man to exploit them into Oblivion.


Tastysis
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Iloveoldskool Yes girl! I saw that damn Cnn special and I almost cried! The saddest part is that the lil white boy was the most informed about racism then the blk kds! The blk kids where obivlious to the racism yet hated their skin complexion and said that their brown skin is nasty! Im beginning to think more radically on these issues because 2 many of us r self ating, and ignorant!


EnticingBeing
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So much contempt....just be happy for the girl.


tuff-tony
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@tranny..now check you out..with your ole instigatin' azz..lol.


tuff-tony
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@tastysis..you was gone from home..so i had to move on..i will always have a spot in my heart for you though..lol.


emmettmays85
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Tastysis baby words cant express how much i missed u, can i give u a massage?


emmettmays85
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tuff-tony thanks for lettin me get back with my baby Tastysis(i love her)


Tastysis
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Iloveoldskool I swear I wanted to kick the azzez of all the parents of the blk children! My son is light brown and he knows about his lineage! He know that I will immensely disapprove of him bringing home a white girl! I teach him that beauty does come in all shades, however he is taught to challenge societial norms & not 2 driink the kool aid because that is what every1 else is doing! Teach ur kids something, or the cycle of hate will continue!


dollish
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@ ILoveOldSkoolRB Yes I saw it and its starts a GREAT discussion that i actually had with my fam and friends yesterday but i wont spend all day online talkin about it. Dont have that kind of time Thats what i meant by my 1st post of mto posting these types of stories to get ppl to spend all day on the comp. just to get their comments and views up and what i meant about other important things to worry about are work, school, and ur fam not bein on mto talkin about beauty



emmettmays85
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all u niggas better stay away from my baby Tastysis


Zomg
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@oohlalannenna, that is so true. Haitians do come in various colors, but let me tell you, most of them do not look like that woman. Light skin women are beautiful and dark skin women are beautiful, but I'm wondering if they picked her because she was light. #14 is beautiful and so is #13. It's like how Brazil is majority minority and yet they all want to be white and they only show white people.


killlakara
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SHES GORGEOUS. THEY ALL ARE, BUT IT'D BE NICE TO SEE HER WITH A MORE NATURAL HAIR STYLE.


Trulee
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"i'd have to lose all the brain cells in my head to forget someone as fine as you".. YESYESYESS!!!!! lol! Remember how they panned the camera to her face?! I love '70's films cinematography and the bad acting! I love it!


Tastysis
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Tuff-tony I know baby! I was vacation, but I was trying to stay in the loop! Trulee seems like a good woman, but I know I'm the best e-wife for u!


badbabybird
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She is beautiful as are the other contestants! Nobody can dictate the fairness of their skin! But some people need to love themselves more and they will stop focusing on lighter-skinned people! Black is beautiful... And whether you're caramel-mocha or dark chocolate we as blacks still face the same struggles!!! Get over yourselves and your skin tone!!! Ughhhhh !!!


tuff-tony
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@emmett..naw brother..let me thank you..for giving me the chance to lay up in the arms of such a lovely lady(trulee)..an eat some of that good azz curry chicken too..mane..it's all good..


Efficacy
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Tastysis.. you sa you'll disapprove of your son bringing home a white girl. And then go on to say, teach your kids something or the cycle of hate will continue...? You do realize you just contradicted yourself, correct? And Miss Haiti is beautiful. She didn't win because she was of lighter complexion.. I'm pretty sure the judges of the contest weren't white. So how would she have any advantage? ...


tuff-tony
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@tastysis...damn baby..you shoulda told me before you ran off an left me all alone..then me and trulee found solice in each others arms..no i can't turn back..i'll never forget what we had though..you were my 1st e-wife..lol.


Tastysis
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Itstoomuch You r hands down one of the most0 ignorant, miserable people on mto! U r the eliteist black that tells us that we should try to be better, stop being ghetto etc, but u won't do a damn thing to help out another blk if theywere in need! That is not tough love, that is elitism at its finest! I hate blk people like u because u r a big damn part of y we r in that state that we r in!


emmettmays85
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Tastysis yes my lil cousin paternal grandmother intstilledin my lil cousin i confronted her about that shit and cussed her out


tuff-tony
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@tranny..i ain't mad at cha..me and emmett rapped a taste..and straighted it out..everythang is everythang..yo crazy azz still like to instagate though..i can tell..lol.


emmettmays85
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Tastysis why u givin these ignorant people more attention than u give me/ u makin me jealous :(


Tastysis
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Efficacy I'm not about holding hands and singing kumbayah with people who r not blk! We need to fix what's wrong with us b4 we can try to get along with anyone else don't cha think?! Too many blk parents tell their children I don't care who u bring home....well I do! Believe that white parents don't tell their children that shyte so y do we?


tuff-tony
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@trulee..come on baby..talk to me!!!.."blaxploitation" movies..that's my sh!t..i gotta all of em..an know damn near all of em by heart..we gonna be on that sofa..with some jiffy-pop and an ole 70's flick..snuggled up..laughin and lovin..i found my e-soul mate..



EmpressNimra
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Adding insult to injury, I hear this chick is Dominican and not Haitian. European standards of beauty is hear to stay.


Trulee
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Hey Tasty, Emm just referred to you as his 'backup plan'.Hmmm


EmpressNimra
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*here to stay


Tastysis
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Efficacy I'm sure they aren't white either, and again I said Haiti is one of the most self-hating countries in the world! Hey Emmett! No I'm trying 2 keep a balance! Hey SexyT! What it do mama?


emmettmays85
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tuff-tony its cool man , cause that was just rebound for when my baby Tatsysis put me on punishment


MadamePC
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So now we're discrimiating on light skin women? If she's Haitian, she has just as much right, to win as her beautiful dark skin competitors. Shoutout to MTO, for complexion baiting.


thick
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ok MTO I hope you are not try to imply that she won because she is light skinned. I need more facts than just a picture to agree with you so to answer your question I DISagree


chi-hop
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co-sign empress and babybird european standars ARE the standards i know this white dude that i"m about ready to whop his azz over similar sheet he rarely gives black women credit he made a statement that this one girl talking bout she"s a fine black girl and she s but another fine one was dark skinned and seems like he made a subliminal remark then gave this pasty white chic all the props inthe world and she was not even all that she was kind of cute but the chocalate sista blows her away


M0FI0S0
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tuff-tony is pimpin lmao gettin chose


Denlyn
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Mike Harris has low self esteem it's too bad you hate your self.


tuff-tony
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@emmett..c'mon man..don't do that..we got to always keep it gentelmanly..you said you was cool about thangs..


tuff-tony
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what up mafioso?!..call me goldie brother..lol.


vanityrose
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she won because she was a mile ahead of the others


Mellataz
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MTO be on that F*ck sh*t with all this race baitin... Plus the racist trolls. MTO need to get it together cause they are loosing members.. Also they need to stop making these fake accounts to make up for the lack of real commenters. For instance "JuicyCouturexxx", is fake. Any... @ Topic #7 looks better than all those chicks.. & not cause she is light.. it just is what it is.. The most beautiful dark women in my opinion come from Ghana,Gabon,Mali,Ethiopia,and Kenya. Haitian women are not known to be beautiful...just being real.. She is probably a Dominican who knew she could get an easy win in Haiti


Trulee
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tuff-tony I love Superfly and not because of Priest (Ron O'Neal R.I.P) but I liked Eddie. Didn't he favor Sammy Davis JR? He was just so cool and I like when Priest told him he wanted out of the game and he was telling him why he shouldn't and then finally he said 'fool, you betta come own eeeeen!' Everytime I hear him say that I holler!!!!



TiffanyT2006
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That bitch should of never won she anit from hati they only did that cuz she light skin and we all know that


Trulee
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Tuff-tony I just hope I'm able to watch the movie in it's entirety and keep my hands to myself; especially if you lookin' like that smooth dark brotha K.G I like his eyes, his teeth & smile, and that rich chocolate tone to his skin.


kaylahni
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just goes to show that if ur not light ur not right sad but true!!


Whitley4u
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@ItsTooMuch,You hit the nail right on the head about Tastysis.


Nebulas
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1. ALL HATIANS ARE NOT DARK LIKE THOSE WOMEN 2. SHE MUST BE HATIAN SHE IS SPEAKING FRENCH RIGHT ? 3. I DATED A HATIAN AND HE WAS LIGHT


tuff-tony
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@trulee..lol..yeah..that brother was too cool..i liked that character..he was smooth..reminded me of my uncle..eddie was in it to win it..he dimed my dude preist out though..i didn't like that..but superfly is one of my favorites cuz the soundtrack is a classic..4real..every last song bumps..


Trulee
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Did Mr.Mays just try to take a cheap jab at me? Or was that some ol' junkyard dog barking in the background?....


emmettmays85
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tuff-tony i know iys just something about Tasty thats keeps bringin me back


Trulee
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Tuff-tony And ya KNOW ol' girl got the soundtrack ok? That's running down on me too :-( gotta get another one.


MamiSoooPrecious06
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dont act surprised lol.


emmettmays85
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Trulee no i did'nt take no jab i didnt mean to please forgive me


tuff-tony
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@trulee..don't worry..you won't be watchin but the 1st few minutes..and when you wake-up..al roker..or ann curry will be on your tv screen..


Trulee
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Yeah most Eddie's are snakes lol.


Trulee
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alright Emm, tuff-tony you need to get over here now. Not now, but right now.


tuff-tony
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@emmett..it's cool brother..i know yous a good dude..tastysis is good peoples..but she be negelectful of her man sometimes..that's why i had to end our love affair..it was tearin' me apart..lol.



emmettmays85
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fabulousweetie hey baby like yo avi mwith


tuff-tony
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@trulee..damn right..runnin out the door right now..don't know where i'm going..but imma find ya baby..and it's gonna be so nice..


bourgie_girl
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nicole10, no offense but all the dark skinned women you mentioned look somewhat mixed also...just an observation...


M0FI0S0
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I heard he was light skinned, stocky with a haitian accent Jewelry, fast cars and he's known for flashing (what's his name) Listen while I take you back and lace this rap A real live tale, about a snitch named Haitian Jack


tuff-tony
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@tranny..lol..see there you go again..lol.


Trulee
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Tuff-tony are you a Jim Kelly fan?


Tastysis
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Itstoomuch I based my assumption on u because of ur post! U claim to be in real estate and u always have this air of aggrogance about u! U beat of blk women on these threads daily! I agree that she is beautiful and I don't necessarily believe that she shouldn't have won I just find it interesting that all the other contestants are dark! Look at all these folks saying clearly, obviously she is the best looking! Lol! Its not that clear or obvious to me and I thought that these contest were based more on just looks?!


Mellataz
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My black people..I know we want to defend our women. But lets be 100%... KEEP IT 100. Matter fact... Keep it 1,000. #7 looks better than all those women... It's not about the color.. those dark women are not attractive. Now, with that being said.. Put #7 besides Gabrielle Union,Lanisha Cole,Malinda Williams, Letoya Luckett... and that's a real competition.


Mellataz

Trulee
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*"Man, you come right out of a comic book!"


M0FI0S0
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even 2Pac knew light skin hatians so all of this talk is just redundant


vee105

Reddutchess08
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@ MIKEHARRIS SHUT THE HELL UP! NOBODY CARES THAT YOU LIKE REDBONES....YOU ARE NT EVEN ATTRACTIVE TO BE JUDGING PEOPLE AND YOU PROB GET NO PLAY ANYWAY...AND MTO...BLACK PEOPLE COME IN A VARIETY OF TONES. BLACK IS BEAUTIFUL REGARDLESS, AND SHE PROB WON BECASUE OF THE WAY SHE PRESENTED HERSELF!!


Tastysis
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Tuff-Tony U hurt my feelings just now! Emmett can u swing by to dry my e-tears.


tuff-tony
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@trulee..you know it..blackbelt jones..3 the hardway..enter the dragon..melinda..got all them flicks..jim kelly was the dude..



tuff-tony
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@trulee..that's that enter the dragon..lol.


tuff-tony
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@tastysis..that is not my intention baby..i was just tellin the truth..you still a great woman..any man will be luck to be with you..when you gots the time..lol.


emmettmays85
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tuff-tony Tastysis is like angel from god


nolalove504
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I just knew me34 would be on here talkin sh!t ... smh ... let me explain this for your dumbass again ... your skin tone does not affect the structure of your face. skin tone and facial structure isnt determined by the same gene !!! you can be a light skin person and be ugly as f*ck. @me34 you need to go pick up a f*ckin biology book.


tuff-tony
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@tranny..alright then..i thought you was pickin..lol.


emmettmays85
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Tastysis yes baby i will, hey stay away from my baby Tastysis that is my queen, she was my first MTO wife


TheNightNurse
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Well if 7 is just physically more beautiful, you want them give it to a darker girl just because. I hate that.


tuff-tony
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@emmett..i know..so does that mean..ladytop..sexymom..and the rest of em..is off your list..i'm glad you found your love..cuz i sho found mine..lol.


TIMBO118
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YEAH I GUESS IF JUSTIN BIEBER CAN BE A BET AWARD NOMINEE A GIRL WHO LOOKLIKE SHE COULD BE HALF WHITE CAN BE DA QUEEN OF HAITI WOW DATS KRAZY.


powerplayersmagazine
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HAITI KNOW'S NO COLOR BOUNDARY. ALL THE WOMEN ARE BEAUTIFUL IN THE PICTURE. SO NO HARM DONE. POWER PLAYERS MAGAZINE EDITOR AND CHIEF TROY T 832 514 4439


Whitley4u
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@Me34,Bitch shut the fuck up because that's NOT even your real picture.Like,you really playing yourself,I knew you was going to bring you baboon,ape looking ass on here.Do me a favor and shut the fuck up and put a dick down your throat.I was waiting for your ass to pop up and pop some fly so I can put your weak ass back in check.


emmettmays85
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hewy tuff-tony here go the hood i originated from in b'ham


Whitley4u
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@OuttaLine2,Kill yourself,you lame ass gorilla.


Trulee
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tuff-tony You are tickling me right about now! Yess I have alllll of those! My Nanna used to watch Enter the Dragon evvvvery damn Saturday,Lord! She had a crush on B.Lee. I had a crush on Jim Kelly. I love Black Belt Jones. Pinky was truly a 'jive turkey' lol! And Scatman with that 'thing' on his head? lol Damn tuff, you making me feel reeeeal good today.Mmmmmm


DreamWeaver6830
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I'm sure the winners every other year are dark..so a woman her skin tone who find it hard to win in that competition in haiti..so QUIT TRYING TO GET A JEALOUS RESPONCE OUT OF BLK WMN..it ni different than a dark skin women winning miss america...**Hi Bammaz



emmettmays85
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here go my hood http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Ty-eECflug nooo Sexymom is finer than a muthafucka , ladytopshotta73 is my baby momma, BUT Tastysis is my queen , my baby, my everything when she was mad at me and ignoring me , it was eating me up real bad


tuff-tony
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@tranny..naw..i ain't built like that..me an emmetts cool.. @emmett..what you tryin to put up a link..i don't see nothin' mane..


Dreayonn
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She may be Haitian but she is NOT Black. Haitian is not a race, it is a Nationality. Non Black ancestry can be an African while their features are that of a different linage. Since this competition is going by Nationality instead of ancestry, any Non Black race could have won this.


M0FI0S0
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@ sexytranny i had 2 run 2 da store 2 get my beer, I'm just sayin is not uncommon 2 see light skin hatians


tuff-tony
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@trulee..lol..yeah scatman(pop byrd) was a trip in that..i sho liked lookin at gloria hendry with them long sexy legs..lol..you takin me back to some good feelins too woman..lol..i better get going..my offline soul mate is here..imma look into her soft eyes for awhile..you take care my love..an keep it hot..goodnite..an sweet dreams.


Trulee
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sexyt LOL you don't miss a beat do you?


Trulee
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Dreayonn Did you know that actress Charlize Theron is an African-American? She was born in South Africa.


Trulee
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Good night Tuff!


tuff-tony
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@emmett..ok i see the link..i'll check it out..i'm outta here..all ya'll be safe and have a goodnite..much love!


Dreayonn
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The world seems to have an issue with dark skin but it is dark skin which overall has the better and more developed genetics then those around the world. This world is so vain, so we think outer appearance is more important then human genetics. People are truly ignorant because God made dark skin strictly for benefit of human beings and that something to be way more proud about then what ignorant society has to say.


Tastysis
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Itstoomuch I wasn't being rude @ all, and I think u began in on the other people who have a negative opinion of this win! U post a lot of negative things to say about bw so y would I ask u any ?s when ur views r clear! Anyway u wrote to much, and I don't feel like getting into any further wit u because I gotta go! Good night all!


Whitley4u
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@me34,Shut your black ugly ass up with that fake ass photo up that's not even you.I bet you all them woman up their look better than your pathetic,monkey looking ass.


Dreayonn
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Dreayonn Did you know that actress Charlize Theron is an African-American? She was born in South Africa. ----- Yes could very well be an African but her ancestry is European. People make the mistake by labeling Nationality as ancestry or linage. This is so confusing. Your ancestry/linage is determined by your features and hair. We are all Americans but we all don't share the same linage.


TheThirdEye
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Damn this thread has blown up, not surprised. If you look at the group picture, the other competitors don't look upset so maybe they thought the judgment was also fair?


TheCityIsMine773
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MAN FUK A LITE B!TCH. I LIKE CHOCOLATE WOMEN. YOU CAN'T TRUST A LITE HO3 FOR SHYT!! SHOUTS OUT 2 THEM CHOCOLATE LADIES I GOT MADDD RESPECT AND LOVE FOR YALL!!



Hiimslay
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Wow She's beautiful


Trulee
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Dreayonn exactly


Dreayonn
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Sorry her ancestry is Caucasoid. If a BM was born in Europe, this would make him a European by Nationality but his linage would that of Negroid.


JAY_DONT_EAT_DZ_HOEZ
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i love my sexy black sistas ~holds fist up~


Aristotlekid
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MTO tryin 2 start SHIT. ----------------------- www.weoffbeats.com


Dreayonn
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Well I'm off. Way too much ignorance and carelessness on this site and that shid is annoying to me. Take care y'all.


Diasamax
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Haiti does not need to justify themselves to any of us in this country. At the end of the day, all of us have a mixture of heritage. And if anyone took the time to pull their heads out of their asses, they would know what a recessive gene is. For all you know, both of her parents could be darker than midnight and she came out looking like one of the grandparents or even great-grandparents. MTO stop coming up with such ignorant crap. Seriously. You guys are reaching on this story.


Dreayonn
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*Correction* Clueless People


ladytopshotta73
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In my Juelz Santana voice **I'm I'm BAAACK! And just in time.....TastySis---ItstoomuchCRAP is a pointless, miserable piece of sh*it...It will say ANYTHING to stand out on these threads because it's insecure and a LOSER! It loves to flag post and put people down to make itself seem intelligent and "above" others, yet with each post it reveals just how annoying and PATHETIC IT really is. Ignore that BITCH!


QTEETAY2
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LIGHT BRIGHT AND DAMN NRAR WHITE!!


mofioso
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me34 gimme dat gushy i will tame dat ass


PrincessRemii
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what point are you trying to make she was the prettiest and she is haitian get over it


MediaLuva
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PEOPLE MAYBE UPTIGHT WITH WHAT IM ABOUT TO POST BUT SO EFFIN WHAT.....HAITIAN AND DOMINICANS ARE THE SAME PEOPLE!!! THEY SHARE THE SAME ISLAND DIVIDED BY SOME MOUNTAINS AND COME FROM THE SAME ANCESTRY...WHILE SOME DOMINICANS DO NOT WANT TO ADMIT IT, THEY ARE AFRICAN AND IF YOU GO THERE THEY HAVE BLACK AS NIGHT DOMINICANS WHO YOU WOULD THINK ARE HAITIAN. SAME GOES FOR HAITI. THERE ARE HAITIAN PEOPLE LIKE HER ON THE ISLAND WHO LOOK DOMINICAN..SAME PEOPLE DIFFERENT LANGUAGE AND SOCIETAL RACIAL BARRIERS. THAT IS ALL


Whitley4u
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@Me34/LottaHead21,Get your bummy,tacky ass off of MTO talking all that bullshit with your nappy ass head......Stay your ass in that FEMA TRAILER and fuck yourself,you slave ass dyke.


MediaLuva
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OH AND @ME34....CUT THE RACIAL STUFF AND GET A REAL PIC OF YOURSELF...I SEEN YOUR MAIN PIC ON ANOTHER SITE WHICH BELONGED TO THE REAL GIRL!!!!! HAHAHA LAME ASS YITCH



M0FI0S0
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me34 gimme dat gushy i will tame dat ass


bajan2sweet15
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MTO yall are so damn ignorant. Black is Black. That's a horrible black mentality. Thinking that a lighter shade is better. But its all the same.


M0FI0S0
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yeah i got 2 avi's wit da same name


M0FI0S0
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sexytranny i gotta six pack of bud ice im still on #2


Deevala
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It doesn't matter, if she is light skinned. After all, She is still Haitian, and black. However, Haiti needs to focus more on educating its people, and learning how to make the country and its people self-sufficient.


emmettmays85
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ladytopshotta73 cami i kiss u?


emmettmays85
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TheThirdEye u ignorin me :(


Whitley4u
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@Me34/LottaHead21,Bitch you REP New Orleans but now your from Layfeyette?Go get a fucking perm for that nappy ass hair,Isn't your REAL name Kim?Your NO where dark skin with that FAKE pic,you homely ass bitch.


iGetYaMz
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She iz pretty n iz black so who cares


TheThirdEye
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Emmett I been said hi to you. How R U? I see everyone in here are just e-getting it in. Who's gonna be my e-man?


emmettmays85
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fabulousweetie u welcome big booty lol


tikreyol_2
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The problem with this Miss Haiti 2010 is that she won a competition where there wasn't a competition. These girls were called in for a casting call. At the end of the casting call they announced Madame Bertin as the 2010 Miss Haiti universe. There was no promo nor press for this event. Nobody in Haiti even knew this thing was taking place. There are plenty of blacks, marabou, mulatta and white Haitians living in Haiti that would have easily smoked this chick. What also comes as a coincidence is that her family that resides in the Dominican Republic knows the pageant woman that runs the thing who happens to be Dominican. Basically they put on a fake competition. The woman was an opportunist who saw Haiti as a good investment. Now this chick is going to stroll into Miss Universe competition and probably get the pity vote. That's Haiti for you!


tikreyol_2
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http://www.islandmix.com/backchat/f6/miss-haiti-2010-a-217157/


M0FI0S0
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TheThirdEye is e-sangle aw hell shawty is dat you in dat pic


tikreyol_2
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==== She is from D.R. ANOTHER HAITIAN CORRUPTION!!! ==== She is from D.R. ANOTHER HAITIAN CORRUPTION!!! ==== She is from D.R. ANOTHER HAITIAN CORRUPTION!!! ==== She is from D.R. ANOTHER HAITIAN CORRUPTION!!! ==== She is from D.R. ANOTHER HAITIAN CORRUPTION!!! ==== She is from D.R. ANOTHER HAITIAN CORRUPTION!!! ==== She is from D.R. ANOTHER HAITIAN CORRUPTION!!! ==== She is from D.R. ANOTHER HAITIAN CORRUPTION!!! ==== She is from D.R. ANOTHER HAITIAN CORRUPTION!!! ==== She is from D.R. ANOTHER HAITIAN CORRUPTION!!! ==== She is from D.R. ANOTHER HAITIAN CORRUPTION!!!



demosins
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I'm Dominican n Black may be is a Mixed Haitian. and @Mikeharris There is nothing Sexier than having a Beautiful Choclate woman by your side. Black women are the sexiest creatures in the World


M0FI0S0
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sexytranny i gotta have my bud-ice da game bouta start Lakers killin'em


TheThirdEye
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M0FI0 As of today, I'm really single and I've been e-single for a while now. I got did wrong by both of them n!ggas. Yeah that's me.


M0FI0S0
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@ TheThirdEye datz unfortunate for them, I can't see a man lettin you slip away. Let me pick up where he left off and make it how it should be.


emmettmays85
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TheThirdEye i'll be yo sex slave


TheThirdEye
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@M0FI0 You'd be surprised. I don't wanna play you as a rebound. but thank you for showing interest, I appreciate it :) @ Emmett You're nasty as can be lol. Back on the prowl I see. Trulee, Tasty, Fab...Mmmm lol


emmettmays85
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TheThirdEye is that u in yo avi? im tired of askin


TheZoo
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She won fare and square, she is beautiful as well as the other ladies. Follow me on TWITTER @ZOOENT Home of the Bay Area Production Team THA MEKANIX. Feel Free to check us out. Got Beats??? Come get Tuned up.


TheThirdEye
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@Me34 B!tch, shut the hell up. You are so ignorant, low class, and worthless. It's obvious that you have nothing because all you can do is focus on your light skin. I've never seen you comment on anything other than your skin being light, so obviously there is nothing more to you.


TheThirdEye
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Emmett I told you like 3 times. yeah, that's me. I think you always miss it because I'm off and on here through out the day.


M0FI0S0
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@ TheThirdEye iight shawty do you but i'm here & i'm real so when you choose this time choose right


emmettmays85
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TheThirdEye i will get real nasty 4 u , how u want it baby? u wanna ride my face? lol


M0FI0S0
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sexytranny i here u but he got game & datz what it's bout playin 2 win not popularity


TheThirdEye
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@M0FIOSO I'll try PS. Show your face. Stop hiding from me.


shi
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@me34, I'M JUST WONDERING WHY YOU THINK I WILL BE JEALOUS OF WOMEN THAT HAS LIGHTER SKIN THAN ME? JUST BY YOU STATING THAT, MAKES YOU UGLY. AS I SAID BEFORE. IT'S ALWAYS OTHER PPL THAT HAS A PROBLEM WITH MY DARK SKIN BECASUE I LOVE ME SOME ME. TRUST ME, I DON'T HAVE TIME TO WORRY ABOUT THE NEXT PERSON. YOU SHOULD DO THE SAME!



TheThirdEye
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@Emmett that's a little too nasty lol. I'm def not on your level.


emmettmays85
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TheThirdEye oh ok my bad u look nice


JENNACREED
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Hey you mofo's don't make this into a race issue! She was the prettiest and I didn't get that b/c she was the lightest! It is what it is! As for all the racist hon.k.y.s on here choke on a dyck and die h0nky slime! Everyone else have a great day!


emmettmays85
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TheThirdEye im glad u said no cause i dont eat anything that can get up and walk away lol


TheThirdEye
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@Emmett "U look nice" lol look at you trying to be a southern gentlemen. I like :)


shi
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I HAVE NEVER SEEN A BUNCH OF IGNORANT BLACK PPL IN MY LIFE! IT'S BAD ENOUGH THAT WHITE PPL THINK THEY'RE SUPERIOR TO US, NOW WE HAVE SOME OF OUR OWN THINKING THE SAME. @ME34 YOU AINT GOT NOTHING I WANT, SO PLEASE GO SIT DOWN! NEXT...


emmettmays85
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sexytranny dont nobody love me no more :(


mili
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Whaaaat are you kidding me, there are beautiful dark skin women! What....Gabriel Union, Nia Long, Oprah, Chili, Kelly Roland, Buffy the body (hot damn!, Trina, Foxy Brown, Remi...need I say more, but those other girls look nothing like them. Its some ugly lightskin girls....solange, kat stacks, Tiny (T.I) baby mom and seee Toya is wayyyyy prettier than tiny. Thars just to name a few! im not even gon get on the chocolate brothas.....morris chestnut, T.O., Taye Diggs,Omar epps, mike vick (another hot dayummmm!), Kevin Hart! Enough said, I like em alllllll, light black, dark, medium rare. etc.


shi
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@CLARKTHINK, YOU ARE RIGHT, HE IS A DOG CATCHER, HE CAUGHT HER!....LMAO!


emmettmays85
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hey TheThirdEye u wanna see a naked pic of me? check me out at emmettmays@yahoo.com,


mili
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Black women we need to embrace alll our sisters no matter what shade of brown they are! Stop with the self-hatred....unite! Dayummm.


emmettmays85
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TheThirdEyeim the epitome of a southern gentle man


mofioso
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@ TheThirdEye i might put up a face pic just 4 u b/c u so sexy & u might b what i'm missin but i only got time on sundays to be on here i'm tryna get it ya dig time is money


TheThirdEye
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Emmett Riight haha


emmettmays85
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me34 stfu bitch



emmettmays85
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TheThirdEye i wanted to show u how fine i am


TheThirdEye
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@Emmett Show me I'm all eyes. I emailed you. U know how to reach me.


donthateonthegreat
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Oh so what?! The girl is gorgeous, that's why she won!!! The other women are ok, but nothing to scream over, and NO not because they're darker. That's why most of us are so divided as a people now! Light, medium, dark...WE STILL BLACK!!! This has to stop...


emmettmays85

pisces79
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@creamnow! yes u do


emmettmays85
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TheThirdEye i just emailed u back


shi
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I READ SOME OF THE COMMENTS, IT'S A SHAME FOR WOMEN TO THINK THAT THEY ARE MORE DESIRABLE THAN OTHERS BECAUSE OF THEIR SKIN TONE... WHO TOLD YOU THAT CRAP? REMEMBER THE SLAVE MASTERS WAS RAPING THE WOMEN IN THE FIELD. (I'M KIDDING BUT IT'S TRUE). SOME MEN JUST DATE WOMEN BECAUSE OF THEIR LIGHTER SKIN TONE, IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THEIR FACIAL FEATURES. I'VE SEEN A LOT OF UNATTRACTIVE LIGHTER SKIN WOMEN TRUST ME ON THAT!!!!


shag11
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Same ol' self-hatred bullshit. We do it on our tv shows as well.


mofioso
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sexytranny i'm really ridin wit Boston i enjoy watching da Lakers tho


emmettmays85
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TheThirdEye im out 4 2nite byes


mofioso
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@ shi wad about men dat date women based off their phat asses and cup size is dat shallow 2 cuz i like me a thick lil sumthin


emmettmays85
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Tennis im sorry baby , u mad @ me?


iWannaSuckYoTitties
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THEY ALL GOT NICE TITTIES WHO CARES


emmettmays85
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Tennis is that why u been ignoring me/


mofioso
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sexytranny u betta pray 4 dem boys cuz it's a wrap come monday



ladytopshotta73
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LOL look @ Emmett gettin all the ladies today---boy you are gettin IN! I'm so jealous.....;)


lrg2fly2g
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Okay well was it fair that's shold be the qestion if anything what the hll color have to do with it All shades are black n lovely at that so don't hate dumbies don't make me go Ham in n this ho!!


myj237
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I've met Haitians her complexion but they had some nappy azz hair.


ladytopshotta73
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I'm not gonna comment on this here f*uckery anymore----its a waste of time!


emmettmays85
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sexytranny good night


fullyCommited

MYXY_POORWHITTY
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Why do h0nkys not wash there hands after using the rest rooms? All white men love to have sex in little boys @ss, I hate white men! WHITE PEOPLE WANT TO BE BLACK SO BAD... THATS WHY THEY LIVE ON MTO... DIE SLOW H0NKYS!


nayb0713
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she's goregous


sweetbella
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Haitian girls come in all shapes, colors, and sizes. I love my culture, but the ideal americanized idea of beauty is beginning to rub off on Haiti.


emmettmays85
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Tennis my bad i did'nt mean to offend u, i missed u @ladytopshotta73 good night baby


DeRavine
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I am a light skinned haitian...and this sadden me to see a urban website be so ignorant and influence others to be as ignorant as they are. just the same as africa, jamaica, trindad, or any dominately black country or island, there are different races. Hiati is a very diverse island. There is are light skin, darkskin, whites, and blacks all living in haiti and all are haitian natives.


emmettmays85
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Tennis bye momma


MTOVixen
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lightskin is in this year..NOT!


emmettmays85
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stay safe y'all


tiffaninatae
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Why does everybody care she's lite skin lyk hopp off she is still black mto is full of idiots



ladytopshotta73
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Goodnite Emmett---Sweet dreams, Love!


misshugrad
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@Tennis: I totally agree with your comment about MTO e-dating/flirting. I get so sick of that, the spammers, and the "characters" on here. Other than that, I could actually enjoy reading through the discussion on these threads. It's pretty LAME that people are flirting with complete strangers. And it's annoying to have to weed through all the e-flirting.


blackbeautyanddiva
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willepadgett MIKE HARRIS IS A UNDERCOVER F@G, HE LOST HIS VIRGINITY IN JAIL………. MIKE HARRIS NEEDS AN EDUCATION,THE ONLY WORD HE KNOWS IS REDBONE MIKE HARRIS LOOK LIKE WILLY LUMP LUMP MIKE HARRIS GO KILL YOURSELF AND DIE SLOW MIKE HARRIS IS GETTING MORE ANNOYING THAN THAT CHEESE ON BREAD F@GGIE NERD246 MIKE HARRIS OPEN UR LUMPED UP EYES SO YOU CAN SEE ME BUSS YOU IN YOUR FAT LIP………… ************* lmbaoffffff!!!!!! damn that was some funny schitt...i havent been on here in a while but your comment was hilarious


YoungGeneration
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MTO and all of you need mental help. THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT IS BRGING DOWN OUR GENERATION TODAY! Ignorant,close-minded adults who can't see past the verge of color and beauty. This why we have welfare, this is why we cannot stay in school, this is why we have gangs and drugs, this why we CANNOT MOVE FOWARD AND PROSPER! I can't believe the ignorance I am hearing/seeing on MTO. Who cares if she was light, dark, purple, striped, or polka dot, she won AND HAD A RIGHT TO WIN!I hope you all get it together...because you are bringing us all down.


ttiiaa77
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One of my girls in Miami is Haitian and she's maybe a shade or two darker with hair just as long as hers. If u know your pretty (self-esteem), then there's no need to be jealous or hate. Congratulate her winning and just know she still aint as bad as you ...maybe that's just me. **shrugs


blackbeautyanddiva
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me34 Well darkies I have to go and care for my light skinned hubby and beautiful light skinned daughter! Unlike u darkies on MTO all day! I have a life! D moral of this story is Light skinned blacks are superior to darkies in EVERY category! GET OVER IT! *********** me34....girl shuct the fcuk up!!! ive been gone from this site for a couple of weeks or so and you still here talking bullschitt....YOU ARE A KNOCK OFF!! BEYONCE WANNABE REJECT!!!!


XIO
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Beauty comes in ALL shades dang thgt u knew!!! RIP Bay


ohdrama0901
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So what she's still a woman of color is all I care about. How could yall be trippin about her complexion and Miss USA is Arabic and athough I have no problem with it who woulda thought?


badgurll
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It does seem kinda strange however beauty comes in all shades. MTO stop the nonsense.


bajan2sweet15
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I am amazed to see these ignorant comments. Black is Black. I'm light skinned and my mom is dark skinned and there is no difference. So if u think your some how better because your lighter skinned your dead wrong. Cuz at the end of the day its just black.


RETURNOFYAIDOL
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Well, I see they got it in in this thread 2day......LMAO AT THE LAMEZ....SMDH....I told myself I was gonna try 2 talk wit yall today but REAL LIFE WOULDN'T ALLOW IT....LMAO....IM SURE YALL DNT CARE ANYWAY....LMAO


sweatmytechnique86
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What is skin color @ the end of the day????


jazzyFLOCKAflame
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OUR BEAUTIFUL BLACK SISTERS COME IN ALL SHADES!! THEY ARE ALL GORGEOUS!!


Stormzoey
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But it's okay for MTO to kiss Halle Berry's flat ass.


msfirebrown
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shes pretty o well she won...NexT!



WomanOfACertainAge
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She looks more like Miss Trinidad than Miss Haiti. Probably won only because she's light with long hair. It's SO obvious!!


qwertys
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first of all ,most of yall talk about she beautiful don't know her,f.u.ck all yall who say Haitians are ugly ,how dare classify anyone. you think cause u see a few Haitians. that they all look the same last time i check we were all african looking same on you small minded idiot .fyi Lauren hill not Haitian!!!!!!!!!!!! - Haitian princess


the_thug_bible
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Can we please get beyond color Black people? Being light-skinned has not made my life any better.


Ebonymeansblack
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beautiful is beautiful noo matter what color and im tired of this skin color shit it makes no senseit seem like black people judging each other on skin color just as much white people did and still do this is pure ignorance and i reaally think we as black people should knoccc this shit off !!!!!


islandbee
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omg you people are ignorant.Haitians come in all shades.I'm a light skinned Haitian and majority of my family are light skinned,some look Asian/Indian mixed. Haiti was the first country to win their Independence against their slave master,so they don't worshipped Whites. Haiti has been paying the price for that freedom since 1804.


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The Haitian Revolution and the Forging of America Jim Thomson Breck School, Minneapolis, Minnesota Junior Division Historical Paper, National History Day Competition DURING THE NIGHT of August 22, 1791, a wave of fire engulfed the French West Indies colony of St. Domingue (present-day Haiti), as hundreds of thousands of slaves set fire to plantations, torched cities, and massacred a terrified white population. The slave rebellion that started that night--the most successful slave rebellion in history--lasted 12 long years. It culminated in the founding of the second independent nation in the Western Hemisphere and its first black-governed republic. But more than this, the Haitian Revolution was a turning point in history, the repercussions of which extended far beyond the small island nation. Perhaps nowhere was its impact greater than in the United States, where Haiti's slave revolt figured directly in two of the most significant events in United States history: the Louisiana Purchase and the American Civil War. 1 In 1789, on the eve of the French Revolution, St. Domingue was the world's most prosperous colony. It was "an integral part of the economic life of the age, the greatest colony in the world, the pride of France, and the envy of every other imperialist nation."1 Its plantation economy produced an abundance of crops, of which sugar was by far the most important. At its peak, St. Domingue produced more sugar than all the British Caribbean islands put together and was responsible for forty percent of the overseas trade of France.2 2 The entire economic structure of St. Domingue rested on the backs of a population denied any participation in the colony's prosperity3--the more than one-half million black slaves who were raided from their homelands in Africa and brought in slave ships to the New World to fill an ever-expanding demand for labor and profits. Black slavery in St. Domingue, as in the rest of the Western Hemisphere, was brutal and dehumanizing. The Code Noir enacted by the French government in 1685, ostensibly to ensure humane treatment for slaves, was ignored from the start by the plantation owners in St. Domingue.4 The Catholic Church, although a political force in the colony, was itself a slaveholding institution and, accordingly, both unwilling and unable to exercise its moral authority on the issue of slavery.5 Therefore, the upper class, or grands blancs, who owned slaves were left to treat them in any way they chose.


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Two factors--fear and greed--virtually dictated the mistreatment of the slaves. In St. Domingue, where slaves outnumbered slaveholders by fifteen to one,6 slaveholders sought through unspeakably cruel and punishing conditions to keep the slaves subservient and to deter thoughts of rebellion. Purely economic considerations also worked against the slaves. For planters, it was cheaper to work slaves to death and acquire replacements than to care for them into old age. Consequently, slave mortality on St. Domingue was unusually high.7 As sugar prices rose in the years leading up to the French Revolution, St. Domingue's slaves were driven harder than ever.8 4 Given the brutality to which St. Domingue's slaves were subjected, it is not surprising that resentment of the white population smoldered within the slave population. In 1789, the French Revolution unleashed demands for sweeping social and governmental change which quickly spread from the mother country to the colonies. Planters and merchants demanded greater freedom from colonial ministers; free-coloreds and mulattoes demanded social equality. A virtual civil war erupted, with all factions raising troops and fighting for control of the colonial government.9 For two years, St. Domingue's slaves sat on the sidelines of this fighting. But by 1791 a number of factors had converged to ignite the flames of open revolt within this population. During the period from 1788 to 1791 the slave population burgeoned--growing by more than 100,000--as a result of soaring demand for sugar and the other exports of St. Domingue. These newly imported Africans, "insufficiently acculturated" to ensure docility, would provide the "mass base of the insurrection."10 Additionally, "mushrooming prices of colonial products in revolutionary France" translated into increased slave exploitation, further fanning slave unrest.11 Finally, the white planters, preoccupied with their own grievances, loosened their grip on the slaves, allowing repressed hatred finally to explode, fueled by the cries of liberty and equality that reverberated throughout the French Revolution.12 5 The course of the slave rebellion begun in fire on the night of August 22, 1791, was long and tortuous. In the process of achieving independence, the slaves fought and defeated, in turn, the local white planters and troops of the French monarchy, a Spanish invasion, a British expeditionary force, and, in the end, the supposedly invincible army of Napoleon Bonaparte. Instrumental in the Revolution's success was one man--Toussaint Louverture, a former Creole slave, regarded by some as a savior and by others as a calculating dictator.13 In 1793, he took charge of the poorly-organized slaves and molded them into an efficient, disciplined fighting unit known for its guerrilla attacks. It was Toussaint's leadership that steered the revolution through years of savage fighting in a three way racial war between whites, blacks, and mulattos. In 1796, he became St. Domingue's governor general. Through a shrewd mixture of statecraft and diplomacy, he began to rebuild his battered, war-ravaged country, eventually negotiating trade alliances with the British and the United States.


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Feared by monarchies and slaveowners, Toussaint became known as the Black Napoleon. Meanwhile, the real Napoleon had set his sights on retaking St. Domingue as part of his re-establishment of a French empire in the Western Hemisphere. To defend St. Domingue and the other Sugar Islands of the West Indies, Napoleon intended to create a North American military base located in the vast Louisiana territory, newly re-acquired from Spain. The agricultural output of the Louisiana territory would feed the sugar colonies--which, while prosperous, had never been self-sufficient--and its wealth in furs and raw materials would be used to finance Napoleon's military ventures. Before he could take control of Louisiana, however, Napoleon needed to regain control of St. Domingue, which was to serve as a rest stop and supply center for ships headed for the North American continent. Toussaint was an obstacle to Napoleon's ambitions; in particular, to his plan to restore slavery to the French Caribbean.14 Therefore, Napoleon dispatched a massive amphibious force to destroy him and reclaim St. Domingue. In retrospect, Napoleon would call this decision the greatest folly of his life.15 7 Although the French troops, commanded by Napoleon's brother-in-law General Charles Leclerc, arrived under the guise of protecting St. Domingue, Toussaint was not fooled. When the French army landed on St. Domingue, it found a barren wasteland of charred plantations, slaughtered livestock, and mutilated white corpses. Dessalines, one of Toussaint's commanding officers, emphasized the tactic of destruction employed by the rebels: "The whites from France cannot hold out against us in St. Domingue. They will fight well at first, but soon they will fall sick and die like flies.... We will harass them and beat them, we will burn the harvests and then take to the hills."16 Dessalines was right. Over the next twenty-two months, Napoleon's army was devastated by guerrilla warfare, insurrections and yellow fever.17 In June 1802, the French, exasperated and exhausted, resorted to deception to defeat Toussaint, luring him to a meeting ostensibly to discuss peace. Once there, Toussaint was captured and transported to France, where he died a prisoner ten months later. 8 Toussaint's capture, however, did not end St. Domingue's fight for freedom; instead, it incited his followers to fight even harder. In October 1802, Leclerc sent a desperate message to Napoleon requesting more men and advising: "If you cannot send the troops I demand...[the colony] will be forever lost to France."18 Napoleon responded to this plea by sending 20,000 additional troops under a new commander in January 1803, but these reinforcements arrived too late to turn the tide. By November, having lost more than 40,000 troops in battle or from disease, France surrendered and was forced to leave the island.19 Napoleon's legendary army had been defeated by former slaves with no formal military training. 9 The historical impact of the Haitian Revolution would extend far beyond the small Caribbean island. Without control of the crown jewel of its planned empire, France saw the Louisiana territory as a useless drain on its resources. Needing money for his renewed war with England, Napoleon sold the vast Louisiana territory to the United States on April 30, 1803, for about four cents an acre.20 With this abrupt act, France removed itself as a power in the Western Hemisphere. 10 For the United States, the Louisiana Purchase was a turning point the historical importance of which has been ranked "next to the Declaration of Independence and the adoption of the Constitution."21 This single acquisition doubled the nation's size, making it formidable enough to withstand almost any outside threat. It gave the country its heartland, as well as control of the Mississippi River and the important port city of New Orleans on the Gulf of Mexico. 11 By acquiring New Orleans, the United States removed the trade barrier which the French had imposed against Americans wishing to ship goods through New Orleans. So important was this port to the commerce of the young United States that, in April 1803, President Thomas Jefferson wrote: 12 There is on the globe one spot the possessor of which is our natural and habitual enemy. It is New Orleans, through which the produce of three-eighths of our territory must pass to market. The day that France takes possession of New Orleans...we must marry ourselves to the British fleet and nation.22


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The opening of New Orleans also resolved a deeply divisive political problem. The French closing of the Mississippi River to American traffic violated the 1783 Treaty of Paris. Westerners, dependent on the Mississippi River and the port of New Orleans to get their products to eastern markets, wondered why they should pay taxes to a country that would not stand up for them, and they threatened to become French citizens or secede from the United States unless the government invaded Louisiana. The Louisiana Purchase ended this threat.23 13 In a broader sense, the Purchase fundamentally transformed the way Americans thought about themselves. The vast open spaces of the Louisiana territory drew immigrants from all over Europe, changing the character of the nation by increasing its social diversity.24 The push to settle this new territory shifted the eyes of the country westward,25 making further expansion almost inevitable and giving birth, if not to the term, at least to the forces behind "manifest destiny"--the idea that the United States had both a right and a duty to own and settle the entire continent. Before the Louisiana annexation, Americans "in many ways still had a colonial attitude; they still looked to England and to France."26 With the acquisition the Louisiana territory, their focus shifted to their own continent. "[F]or the first time, Americans became Americans as we know them, people with a continental view."27 14 The Haitian Revolution initiated all of this change. But its impact did not stop there. The revolt of the Haitian slaves also influenced forces that helped foment what many have called the defining moment in American history: the Civil War. The push to create new states out of the vast Louisiana territory led to dissension between North and South over whether the new states would be admitted as slave or free. New England Federalists threatened to secede rather than permit the delicate balance that had been worked out between the mercantile states of the North and the slave-holding states of the agrarian South to be upset.28 For the South, the stakes in this debate were raised by a boom in the demand for cotton that coincided with the acquisition of the Louisiana territory.29 The plantation economy, dependent on slave labor, quickly spread to the southern regions of the Louisiana territory. For these new planters, the debate over slavery was an economic as well as a philosophical issue. The tensions over the treatment of the slavery question in the states carved out of the Louisiana territory would ultimately trigger guerrilla warfare in Bleeding Kansas, which in turn was a factor leading to the Civil War.30 15 The impact of the Haitian Revolution on the United States was not confined, however, to the slave- versus-free-state debate. In the ante-bellum South, "No issue having to do with slavery and the role of blacks in American society was discussed at so many different times, in so many different ways, for so many different reasons as the lessons of the Haitian Revolution."31 Reports of the fury vented by the Haitian slaves on their white oppressors reached the United States, transmitted by refugees fleeing St. Domingue. One eyewitness reported seeing "young children transfixed upon the points of bayonets"32 Others described slaves dragging white planters from their homes and tearing off their limbs one by one or strapping them to wooden racks and sawing them in half.33 "Whites had always been aware of slaves as 'troublesome property,' but only after St. Domingue did they react to the threat as a real one and not just a potential one."34 Alarmed, they worried that once slaves "get a taste for freedom...they will not easily be made to abandon the enterprise."35 16 Southern fears were not entirely unfounded. Slave uprisings in the United States greatly increased after 1791, and evidence of a direct connection between this growing slave unrest and the Haitian revolt exists. In the case of one major slave revolt, the Denmark Vesey plot in 1802 to burn Charleston, South Carolina, for example, evidence established that Vesey had communicated with Haitian blacks and even expected a Haitian invasion to support his rebellion in South Carolina.36 Reacting to the Haitian Revolution, southern slaveholders increased the repression of their own slaves to prevent a similar revolt.37 Repressive measures were also directed at the large number of freed blacks, feared by whites as a potential source of insurrection. Laws were passed "to make it harder for masters to free their slaves, regulation after regulation attempted to control the movements of Blacks and to prohibit the assembly of, or indeed any contact between, free Blacks and slaves."38 17 This repression impassioned the northern Abolitionist movement and further polarized the North and South in the years preceding the Civil War. The increased brutality directed toward the slaves by fearful slaveholders became a central focus of the Abolitionists' crusade to end slavery. They seized upon the example of Toussaint as proof that blacks were not inferior to whites but were instead quite capable of freedom.39 Moreover, measures undertaken in the South to discourage slave uprisings, including the employment of the Army for slave control activities and attacks on the right of assembly and petition, produced a counter-reaction in the North, helping to broaden the anti-slavery struggle "into a battle for the security of the democratic rights of white people."40 This development has been called "probably the most important force strengthening the entire Abolitionist movement."41 In 1861, the tensions between North and South--exacerbated by events that happened directly or indirectly because of Haiti--finally exploded into the Civil War. 18 For the former slaves of St. Domingue, the freedom for which they fought would prove ephemeral, largely erased by a succession of dictators. But the impact of the Haitian Revolution would be indelible in the United States, where a slave revolt on foreign soil must, today, be recognized as a major turning point in American history.


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EXAMPLES OF LAWS AND REGULATIONS ENACTED IN SUBSTANTIAL PART IN REACTION TO THE HAITIAN SLAVE REVOLT In 1794 and 1800, the federal government passed anti-slave trade laws to prevent the possible spread of the Haitian slave revolt to the U.S. The first prohibited citizens from equipping ships engaged in slave trade commerce, and the second prohibited Americans from serving aboard such ships or from having any interest in their voyages. (Aptheker, 45). Beginning in 1792, southern states, including South Carolina, Kentucky, North Carolina, Georgia, and Maryland, passed laws restricting slave trade as a means of preventing the possible infection of the U.S. by the Haitian rebellion. South Carolina's statute prohibited the importation by any one person of more than two slaves, and required that the slaves imported be for personal use only. This law was subsequently modified to retain a total ban only with respect to slaves from the West Indies or South America. However, all imported slaves had to be accompanied by a statement signed by two magistrates attesting that the slaves had not been involved in any insurrection or revolt. (Ibid., 73-74). In 1797, Baltimore, Maryland passed an ordinance declaring all slaves imported from the West Indies between 1792 and 1797 to be "dangerous to the peace and welfare of the city" and ordering their masters to banish them. (Ibid., 74). Many southern states enacted measures restricting the civil liberties of blacks, including laws forbidding meetings of slaves without the presence of whites, prohibiting the assembly of blacks on city streets after dark, requiring slaves to have passes when off plantation, forbidding slaves to possess weapons, and providing severe penalties for sedition. (Ibid., 73-74). A South Carolina regulation made it necessary for a magistrate and five freeholders to approve a document of manumission, freeing slaves from bondage. One of the stated reasons for this regulation was a concern that slaveholders would release slaves "of bad or depraved character" who might incite rebellion once freed. (Ibid. 75) Freed blacks were restricted in their right to hold certain jobs or learn certain trades that might make it easier for them to organize a rebellion. They were also restricted in their freedom of movement from state to state or county to county. (Ibid., 77-78). In some states, blacks were prevented from testifying in court against white persons; this restriction had the effect of preventing blacks from defending themselves against charges that they were part of a slave conspiracy. (Aptheker,77). Shortly after the Vesey Plot to burn Charleston was aborted, white Carolinians took measures to ensure that free blacks were given even less freedom. As part of this effort, in December 1832, the South Carolina legislature enacted the Free-Colored Seamen's Act, requiring that all free blacks employed on incoming vessels be detained in jail while their ship was in port. (Hunt, 120). Annotated Bibliography


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PRIMARY SOURCES A Particular Account of the Commencement and Progress of the Insurrection of the Negroes in St. Domingo. London: J. Sewell, 1792. This is a translation of a speech made to the French National Assembly by the Deputies from the General Assembly of St. Domingue explaining the origins of the slave revolt. The viewpoint presented is that of the white planters. The speech describes in graphic detail the horrors of the slave insurrection and the gruesome murder of the white population at the hands of the slaves. The Deputies suggest that there would not have been an insurrection except for the activities of the Amis de Noirs (literally "Friends of the Blacks") which fomented discontent among the black population. This speech is interesting because it is a first person account and helpful in explaining the position of the white planters. An Inquiry into the Causes of the Insurrection of the Negroes in the Island of St. Domingo. Philadelphia: Crukshank, 1792. Like the preceding entry, this too is a translation of remarks made to the French National Assembly looking into the causes of the slave revolt in St. Domingue. Unlike the previous entry, however, these remarks reject the arguments of the white planters as to the origins of the revolution and instead lay the blame at their feet. This report suggests that the unwillingness of the white planters to extend equal rights to the mulattos was the source of the discontent which eventually spread to the slave population. Aptheker, Herbert. American Negro Slave Revolts. [1943] 5th ed. New York: International Publishers, 1987. This book could be considered both a primary and a secondary source. It is a complete and very well documented account of the history of resistance to slavery in the United States. The author's analysis is insightful and was very helpful to me in preparing my paper. However, what was even more helpful was the primary source material which helped document just how big an impact the Haitian Revolution had on the United States in the pre-Civil War period. This book is one of the best sources I found. Howard, Thomas Phipps. The Haitian Journal of Lieutenant Howard, York Hussiers, 1796-1798. Knoxville: University of Tennessee Press, 1986. This is a first-hand account of the Haitian Revolution written by a lieutenant in a regiment of the British expeditionary force sent to St. Domingue. As was true of the French forces, the British forces were repelled and soundly defeated by the Haitian army led by Toussaint L'Ouverture. This journal vividly describes Lieutenant Howard's experiences during the final two years of Britain's occupation of St. Domingue. The editor of this book notes that it is probably "the only reliable firsthand military account in English" of the slave uprising. The journal is interesting because of what it tells us about the slave rebellion and the military history of a doomed expedition. In the process, it provides insight into the military leadership of Toussaint from someone who fought against him. Lassat, Pierre-Clement de. Louisiana, Napoleon, and the United States. Lamham: University Press of America, 1989. This book, written by the man who was designated by Napoleon to become the governor of French Louisiana, is an excellent primary source of information pertaining to the events leading up to the sale of Louisiana to the United States. The book contains particularly interesting insights into Napoleon's thought process in deciding precipitously to sell Louisiana. Marbois, M. Barbe. The History of Louisiana. Baton Rouge: Louisiana State University Press, 1977. This primary source, written by the then-French Minister of the Treasury, provides not only a masterly written and very informative account of the history of Louisiana but also first person insight into the thoughts of Napoleon at the time he decided to sell the Louisiana territory to the United States. The author was the French representative to the negotiations which led to the sale of Louisiana. Mullin, Michael, et. American Negro Slavery: A Documentary History. Columbia: University of South Carolina Press, 1976. This book traces the history of black slaves in America through original primary source materials, including diaries, public records, newspaper accounts, and personal correspondence. These documents help you understand what it was like to be a slave in America, as well as how the slaves were perceived by white society. For purposes of my paper, the book was useful because it contained a series of accounts pertaining to Denmark Vesey, the leader of one of the largest planned slave insurrections in U.S. history, and a man who clearly drew inspiration from the Haitian slave revolt. Vesey was born in Africa and was brought to the Caribbean, and specifically to St. Domingue, by his master. He had an opportunity to observe first hand the Haitian revolt. Vesey eventually purchased his freedom with a lottery ticket, after which he moved to the United States and settled in Charleston, South Carolina, a city which had a long history of contact with the West Indies. There he carefully planned a slave revolt involving thousands of slaves. His plans were to take the entire city and, eventually, to escape to Haiti. His plot was foiled, however, and Vesey and thirty-five others were tried and hanged. One of the excerpts in this book reports on the Vesey trial, in which Vesey took the stand and defended himself. Ott, Thomas O. The Haitian Revolution. Knoxville: University of Tennessee Press, 1973. This book could be listed as both a primary and a secondary source. Although it is written by a contemporary author, it contains much primary source material. The book is a history of the Haitian Revolution told in large part through first hand accounts. It has a particularly good discussion of the consequences of the Revolution for the United States. This source provided me with first hand explanations of the events that were taking place in Haiti at the time of the rebellion. This book does a particularly nice job of telling, through first hand accounts, of the impact of the Haitian Revolution on the South. Parham, Althia de Puech, ed. My Odyssey: Experiences of a Young Refugee from Two Revolutions by a Creole of Saint Domingue. Baton Rouge: Louisiana State University Press, 1959. This is the first person account of the French and Haitian Revolutions told by a young French Creole author (16 years old at the time of the events described in the book) whose family fled the terrors of the French Revolution in 1791 and moved back to Haiti seeking asylum. Unfortunately, they returned to St. Domingue just in time to be caught up in the slave revolt. The family stayed in St. Domingue about two years, during which time the young author fought on the side of the French planters in many uprisings. After the horrible massacre and burning of Cap Francais, a major city in St. Domingue, the family once again fled, this time to the United States. Although I wasn't able to use this book very much in my paper, due to page constraints, it is a fascinating account of the Haitian Revolution from the perspective of an actual participant. According to the editor, who is a distant relative of the author, this is the only first person account available which is told from the side of the French planters. This book provides a fascinating account of the situation in St. Domingue immediately prior to the slave revolt, the events that actually took place during the author's two visits to the embattled island (the second coming in 1794 when the author returned to St. Domingue from the United States to fight on the side of the French against the rebels. Rus, Martin. Night of Fire: The Black Napoleon and the Battle for Haiti. New York: Sarpedon Publishers, Inc., 1994. Although this book could be considered a secondary source, I have treated as a primary source because of its many primary source quotes. The book traces the history of the Haitian Revolution from the pre-Revolution brutality leveled by white plantation owners at the slaves to the uprising itself. Ryan, Mary C., ed. The Louisiana Purchase. Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, 1987. This book contains copies of documents pertaining to the purchase by the United States of the Louisiana territory, including the actual purchase agreement. It also contains a good discussion of the consequences for the United States of the purchase of the Louisiana territory. Stephen, James. The Crisis of the Sugar Colonies; or An Enquiry Into The Objects and Probable Effects of the French Expedition to West Indies. London: J. Hatchard, 1802. This document consists of a series of four letters written by a James Stephen to the British Prime Minister offering advice concerning the situation in St. Domingue following the slave uprising and on the eve of Napoleon's ill-fated attack. It is unclear who Mr. Stephen is and whether his letters are an official report solicited by the Prime Minister or simply voluntary comments. The letters are interesting for a number of reasons. In the first letter discussing conditions in the West Indies that led to the slave insurrection, Mr. Stephen provides an excellent description of the harsh conditions under which the St. Domingue slaves were forced to work. The other part of these letters which I found to be of particular interest were the British predictions as to what Napoleon was intending when he sent troops toward St. Domingue. The author of these letters guessed correctly that Napoleon wanted more than simply to persuade Toussaint and his band of rebels to swear allegiance to the French. Instead, the author predicts that Napoleon is bent on restoring slavery. The author suggests that, at the outset, Napoleon should have little trouble subduing the rebels. However, once the former-slaves become aware of French intent to reinstate slavery, this author predicts that the mass of blacks will rise up again, placing in jeopardy the French invasion. Toussad, Louis de. Justification of Lewis Tousad Addressed to the National Convention of France. Philadelphia: Daniel Humphrirs, 1793. This is a rather pathetic plea from a man who led French forces during the slave rebellion written from prison, professing his innocence to charges that he conspired with the black insurgents against the citizens of St. Domingue. Although the events which gave rise to Mr. Tousad's imprisonment are not entirely clear, this report was interesting because it reveals just how many factions were in conflict during the Haitian Revolution. Tyson, George F., ed. Toussaint Louverture. Englewood Cliffs: Prentice Hall, Inc., 1973. This book is an excellent source of commentary on Toussaint Louverture, the Haitian Revolution, and its aftermath, told largely through the first person accounts of people who lived during this period in history. It gave me a good perspective on the fact that Toussaint was a highly controversial figure, feared by some people and very much loved by others. SECONDARY SOURCES Barry, James P. The Louisiana Purchase. New York: Franklin Watts, Inc., 1973. This book is a good general source of information on the history of the Louisiana Purchase. I used it as an overview and also as a springboard to further research. Beard, John R. The Life of Toussaint L'Ouverture, The Negro Patriot of Hayti. London: Ingram, Cooke, and Co., 1853. This book is essentially a biography of Toussaint L'Ouverture. It is one of many biographies written in the mid-1800s that portrays Toussaint in glowing terms to have been a patriot and hero. Blumberg, Rhoda. What's the Deal? Jefferson, Napoleon and the Louisiana Purchase. Washington, D.C.: National Geographic Society, 1998. This rather short book provides an informative overview of the events leading up to the Louisiana Purchase from the perspective of both the Americans and the French. Of particular interest were the quotations from George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, and John Adams concerning Toussaint Louverture. From the beginning, Americans both admired Toussaint and feared the impact the Haitian slave revolt might have on this country. Bryan, Patrick E. The Haitian Revolution and After. University of Minnesota Thesis, 1983. This college thesis provides a good overview of life in Haiti before the Haitian Revolution, including a good discussion of the complicated social structure existing in the colony prior to the Revolution. Clarke, John Henrik. African People in World History. Baltimore: Black Classic Press, 1993. This is a fascinating little book that focuses on the history of Africans in the Americas and in the Caribbean Islands in the contest of the entire African past. The book covers a lot of territory in very few pages. For purposes of my paper, the most relevant section of the book was its discussion of the Atlantic slave trade. With respect to the plantation system in both the Caribbean and the United States, Clarke explains that it was a "natural incubator for slave revolts." Slaves were brought in large numbers and generally kept together. The slave owners thought that by keeping groups of slaves together the Africans "would communicate with each other and more could be accomplished." Clarke notes, however, that this communication also served to facilitate slave revolts. Another interesting discussion in this book is the discussion of the American colonization movement or the back-to-Africa movement, This movement, spearheaded by the American Colonization Society, and strongly influenced by events in Haiti, sought to return free blacks to Africa as a means of eliminating the threat of insurrection which the large number of free blacks was believed to pose to whites in the United States. Davis, David Brion. The Slave Power Conspiracy and the Paranoid Style. Baton Rouge: Louisiana State University Press, 1969. This author theorizes that American politics in general is marked by many examples of situations in which conflicts are made worse by the projection of conspiracy theories onto opponents. The belief in a conspiracy--which often does not exist at all--has been responsible for creating tensions greater than are warranted by the reality. With respect to the events leading up to the Civil War, this author suggests that both southerners and northerners were prone to paranoia. Southerners inherited the paranoia of French conservatives who attributed the St. Domingue slave revolt to the "undercover agents and inflammatory propaganda of the Amis des Noirs, who were seen in France as saboteurs employed by Britain, much as British abolitionists were charged with being the tools of French Jacobinism. The myth that abolitionists were directly responsible for the bloodbath of Santo Domingo became an entrenched part of master class ideology, in Latin America as well as the United States." In turn, northerners viewed southern slave owners through a paranoid lens, fearing that this relative minority intended to take over the federal government. According to the author, the paranoia among northerners meant that even those who were not particularly sympathetic to the plight of the slaves nonetheless supported emancipation as a means of defeating the perceived threat from the slave owners. DeConde, Alexander. This Affair of Louisiana. New York: Charles Scribner's Sons, 1976. As its name suggests, this book provided me with an informative background on the dealings that led to the sale of the Louisiana territory to the United States. DeVoto, Bernard. The Course of Empire. [1952]. Boston: Houghton Mifflin Company, 1998. This book contains an excellent, concise summary of the driving forces behind the Haitian Revolution and the French invasion of Haiti. The book also sets forth the conflicting views of the United States about Haiti. On the one hand, Americans--particularly the Abolitionists--focused on Toussaint Louverture as a hero in that he had led the successful Haitian Revolution, Americans also wanted to maintain Haiti as a trading partner, and therefore sought to had an interest in maintaining good relations with the new nation. At the same time, however, as the author explains, from the beginning, American leaders including Washington, Jefferson, and Adams feared the spread of slave unrest to this country from Haiti. The book also contains an interesting discussion of the considerations that went into Napoleon's decision to sell Louisiana. Among the most interesting facts noted in this book is Napoleon's prediction of the consequences of the sale for France. Barbe-Marbois, the minister of finance who conducted the negotiations for France, quotes Napoleon as having said: "This accession of territory consolidates the power of the United States forever, and I have given England a maritime rival who sooner or later will humble her pride." As DeVoto notes, "The unifier of Europe and the remaker of the world, who had also ended forever the dream of a North American France, was here looking down a long arc of time with great clarity." Ferrell, Robert and Richard Natkiel. Atlas of American History. Greenwich: Brompton Books, 1993. This book is an atlas which covers many of the major events in U.S. history. For my purposes, however, the book was primarily useful for its discussion of the process of expansion begun by the Louisiana Purchase and the discussion of the events leading up to the Civil War and how those events were affected by expansion. This book makes a good argument that not only did expansion further polarize the North and South over the issue of slavery, but that the expansion begun with Louisiana also resulted in a linking of the agriculture of the Middle West with the industrialism of the Northeast, ultimately accentuating the regionalism that lay at the heart of the Civil War. With respect to the Civil War, this book says categorically that, although historians in the past have pointed "variously to a difference in economic systems, disagreement on constitutional law, or a failure of leadership in both [North and South]" to explain the Civil War, "these theories ignored the root cause of it all: slavery." And the Louisiana expansion did much to heighten tensions over slavery. Fick, Carolyn E. The Making of Haiti: The Saint Domingue Revolution from Below. Knoxville: The University of Tennessee Press, 1990. This book is a very interesting account of the Haitian Revolution. It is unlike the other books I read in its major thesis. This author argues that it was not Toussaint or any of the leaders of the Revolution who were the dominant figures in the revolt; rather it was the uneducated slaves who were the principal architects of their own freedom. This book devotes particular attention to the role played by the fugitive slaves (called maroons) in orchestrating the fight for independence. Geracimos, Ann. "A Mystery in Miniature," Smithsonian Magazine. Washington, D.C.: January, 2000, Vol. 30: pages. 20-21. This article, although brief, was very helpful in explaining U.S. reaction to the Haitian Revolution at the time it occurred. The author points out that President Adams, who was from the North, wanted to increase trade with Haiti and, therefore, thought it was important for the Revolution to succeed. By contrast, Thomas Jefferson took a different view. Reflecting his southern roots, he was concerned that if the Haitian rebellion succeeded, there was a good chance that it might spread to the U.S. Hunt, Alfred W. Haiti's Influence on Antebellum America. Baton Rouge: Louisiana State University Press, 1988. This book was easily the best book I read concerning the impact of the Haitian Revolution on the United States. Not only is the book clear and well-written, but is also provides a host of primary source material reflecting the views of people living in the South in the pre-Civil War era which reflects just how deeply the Haitian Revolution and the fears it spawned impacted the attitude of the South toward slavery. It was this book that first made clear to me just how great an impact the Haitian Revolution had in creating the sharp polarity between North and South over the issue of slavery, which contributed to the Civil War. Although I used this book principally as a source for connecting the Haitian Revolution with the American Civil War, the scope of the impact of the Haitian Revolution on this country was far broader than its contribution to the American Civil War. Hunt shows in this book just how profoundly Haitian emigrants affected America, particularly Louisiana, where Haitian influence is seen in everything from language to politics, religion, culture, architecture, and cuisine. James, C.L.R. The Black Jacobins: Toussaint Louverture and the San Domingo Revolution. [1938] 3d ed. London: Allison & Busby, 1980. This book is a passionate, perhaps less-than-objective look at the Haitian Revolution by an author who clearly views Toussaint as a hero. Despite the clear philosophical bias of the book, it is a useful (and often cited by other historians) discussion of the slave revolt. The book does an excellent job of discussing the plight of the black slaves in Haiti and explaining the emotional underpinnings of the Revolution. Johnson, Paul. A History of the American People. New York: Harper Perennial, 1998. This book contains an excellent analysis of the Louisiana Purchase, its history and its consequences for the United States. The author asserts that the "most important inducement to immigration of 1800s was cheap land.... In the entire history of the United States, the land purchase system was the single most benevolent act of government." Although the policy by which the government sold land to settlers for $2 an acre pre-dated the Louisiana Purchase, the acquisition of that vast territory greatly expanded the program. According to this source, the occupation of the Mississippi Valley involving an area the size of western Europe, "marked the point at which the United States ceased to be a small struggling ex-colony and turned itself into a major nation." This book is also an excellent source for the background of the Civil War, including the pressures created by the rapid expansion of cotton plantations into the new territory encompassed within the Louisiana Purchase. According to the author, it was the huge growth of the cotton industry, fostered by European demand for cotton and made possible by Eli Whitney's invention of the cotton gin, that created "the South" as a "special phenomenon, a culture, a cast of mind...." In the Deep South, carved out of the Louisiana territory, cotton was king and plantation owners were deeply indebted to slavery. "With so much money invested in slavery it was not surprising that the South ceased to apologize for slavery and began to defend it." This defense of slavery increased the rift with the North that would lead to the Civil War. Knight, Franklin W. "AHR Forum--The Haitian Revolution." Amer. Hist. Rev. Vol. 105, No. 1 (February 2000): 109-115. This very recent article is directly on point for my paper because it discusses the importance of the Haitian Revolution in history. This article does a great job of underscoring the interrelationship of events in other parts of the world and the Haitian Revolution. This author also describes how the Haitian Revolution impacted the world in ways that went beyond the United States (and, thus, beyond the scope of this paper). Knight, Franklin W. The African Dimension in Latin American Societies. New York: Macmillan Publishing Co., Inc., 1974. This short book provides a good overview of the slave trade and its effect on the entire New World (including the United States). I found particularly interesting the author's discussion of how the practice of slavery varied from country to country and how various circumstances and institutions impacted the conditions to which the slaves were subjected. For example, the author notes that in some parts of the Caribbean during the time preceding the Haitian Revolution--although not in Haiti itself--"the Church spoke out not against slavery but in favor of amelioration of the conditions of slave labor." The author notes, however, that the Church "at no time opposed slavery. It actively supported the status quo, it owned slaves, and it vigorously participated in the slave economy. The Jesuits gained a reputation for benevolence and humanitarianism toward their African slaves, yet even they did not oppose the institution of slavery at any time." In the colony of Haiti, the Church turned a deaf ear toward the cries of the slaves. Lacy, Dan. The Abolitionists. St. Louis: McGraw-Hill Book Company, 1978. This book, which is about the history of the Abolitionist movement in the United States, has a good discussion of why the Northern Abolitionists were so angered by the introduction of slaves into the new Louisiana territory. "Louisiana Purchase 1803," http://galenet.gale.com/a/acp/netacg...&u=/a/acp/db/dtou/ index.html&r=1&f=g. Online. World Wide Web. 2/2/00. Although short, this article provided me with a concise summary of why Napoleon wanted Louisiana and why he ended up selling it. It also identified three consequences of the Louisiana Purchase of which I was not aware. Lyon, Wilson E. Louisiana in French Diplomacy. Norman: University of Oklahoma Press, 1974. This book contains an excellent discussion of why Napoleon wanted Louisiana, and why it was so important for the United States to own it. Also, the book contains a good discussion of the consequences for the United States of the acquisition of the Louisiana territory. McPherson, James M. The Struggle for Equality: Abolitionists and the Negro in the Civil War and Reconstruction. Princeton: Princeton University Press, 1964. The author of this book is a noted scholar on the American Civil War. This book focuses, as the title indicates, on the struggle of the Negro for equality both during and after the Civil War. While the primary focus of the book is on events that are beyond the scope of my paper, this book has an excellent discussion of how Abolitionists countered the argument that blacks were innately inferior to whites by reference to the Haitian Revolution and Toussaint L'Ouverture. McPherson notes that the advocates of racial equality, looking for "authentic black heroes" focused on Toussaint who was "[b]y all odds, the greatest of these." Wendell Phillips, one of the leading abolitionists, gave as one of his "most powerful and compelling lectures" a biography of Toussaint as a means of dramatizing the fitness of blacks for freedom. In an excerpt from that speech, Phillips argued that "Hayti, from the ruins of her colonial dependence, is become a civilized state, the seventh nation in the catalogue of commerce with this country, inferior in morals and education to none of the West Indian isles. Toussaint made her what she is. Courage, purpose, endurance--they are the tests." Meinig, D.W. Continental America, 1800-1867. Hampton: Vail-Ballou Press, 1993, Vol. 2. Although this book covers a large period of time in American history, it was a very good source because it has an extensive section on the importance of Louisiana to the United States and, also, a small section on how the rebellion of the slaves in Haiti forced U.S. slaveowners to be even harsher to its own slaves out of fear that what happened in Haiti would be repeated in the United States. Merk, Frederick. History of the Westward Movement. New York: Alfred A. Knopf, 1978. As its name suggests, this book is a comprehensive history of the westward movements in the United States and its impact on the course of history. This book provided support for a number of my theses about the importance of the Louisiana territory as a turning point in American history. Specifically, it both confirms the importance of the Louisiana territory in shaping the country, by opening vistas to the west and encouraging immigration, for example. It also, however, underscores the fact that the expansion started by Louisiana intensified sectional problems, including that of the spread of slavery which led to the Civil War. Merk, Frederick. Manifest Destiny and Mission in American History: A Reinterpretation. New York: Alfred A. Knopf, 1963. This book is a study of public opinion regarding expansionist drives in the United States in the nineteenth century. The book explores the push for expansion that began with the Louisiana Purchase and grew into the cry of manifest destiny. This book, which is an in-depth look at all the forces shaping manifest destiny, went far beyond the scope of my paper. However, it was useful in underscoring for me just how important the idea of expansion has been historically in the development of the American character. Rogozinski, Jan. A Brief History of the Caribbean. New York: The Penguin Group, 1992. This book is a concise, well written history of the entire Caribbean region. It was helpful to me because it placed the Haitian Revolution in the context of a much larger history. It does a particularly good job of describing the life of a Haitian slave, noting, for example, that the nature of sugar cane as a crop made the work of a slave on the sugar plantations more back-breaking than was true of the work of slaves on, for example, cotton plantations.. Scott, Juliua Sherrard, III. The Common Wind: Currents of Afro-American Communication in the Era of the Haitian Revolution. PhD Diss. Duke University, 1986. Durham: University Press, 1986. This PhD disssertation was called to my attention by one of the judges of my paper at the regional level. It is a tremendous source of information on my topic. This dissertation discusses how the ideas underlying the Haitian Revolution were connected to the French Revolution and how they were subsequently communicated to many parts of the world, including the United States. The dissertation contains an excellent discussion of the origins of the Haitian Revolution. For purposes of my paper, however, the dissertation was probably most helpful in the support it provided for my thesis--that events in Haiti were communicated to the United States where they greatly impacted the course of our history. The author explains how the communication occurred, noting, for example, that U.S. vessels involved in trade were a prime source of communication. The author also discusses how important Haiti became to Afro Americans in this country as a battle cry of freedom. The author notes that nineteenth century Afro-North American historians like ex-slave William Wells Brown characterized the Haitian Revolution as "the pivotal event in the history of Afro-Americans." The author of this dissertation argues that "[u]p to the present day, Toussaint and the Haitian Revolution continue to occupy a central place in the cultural memory of blacks in North America." Wexler, Alan. Atlas of Western Expansion. New York: Facts on File, Inc., 1995. As this book's name suggests, it is a very good source of information on how the Louisiana Purchase started a series of expansions, in the process setting a precedent on how the United States would acquire territory in the future. Zinn, Howard. A People's History of the United States 1492-Present. New York: Harper Perennial, 1995. This book is a broad history of the United States. For my purposes, it was interesting for two reasons. It contains a good description of a sad chapter in America's history which is integrally bound up in U.S. expansion--the adoption of a policy of "Indian Removal." The Louisiana territory provided a way for the young U.S. to deal with its "Indian problem" without having to go to war. Jefferson, in fact, proposed to Congress after the acquisition of Louisiana that Indians should be encouraged to settle down on small tracts and do farming within the new territory. The reason for the Indian Removal policy and its impact can be seen, in part, through statistics. In 1790, there were 3,900,000 Americans, most of them living within 50 miles of the Atlantic Ocean. By 1830, there were 13 million Americans and by 1840, 4,500,000 of them had crossed into the Mississippi Valley. To make room for white settlers, the Indians had to be moved. In 1820, 120,000 Indians lived east of the Mississippi River. However, by 1844, all but 30,000 had been forced to migrate west. The Louisiana territory made this forced migration possible and, in the process, spared the U.S. a potentially costly military confrontation. Notes 1 C.L.R. James, The Black Jacobins: Toussaint Louverture and the San Domingo Revolution ]1928] 3d ed. (London: Allison & Busby, 1980), vii. 2 Patrick E. Bryan, The Haitian Revolution and After (University of Minnesota Thesis, 1983) 6; see also James, vii (claiming that St. Domingue was responsible for an even higher percent--two-thirds--of France's overseas trade). 3 See generally Carolyn Fick, The Making of Haiti: The Saint Domingue Revolution from Below (Knoxville: The University of Tennessee Press, 1990), 15-17 (discussing the economic structure of St. Domingue and the caste society of the colony in the pre-Revolution days). 4 George F. Tyson, ed., Toussaint Louverture Great Lives Observed Series (Englewood Cliffs: Prentice Hall, Inc., 1971) 6. 5 Ibid; Franklin W. Knight, The African Dimension in Latin American Societies (New York: Macmillan Publishing Co., Inc., 1974) 64. 6 Ibid; Bryan, 19 (noting that, in 1767, on the larger plantations, there were on average only three whites to every three or four hundred Africans. On smaller plantations, the ratio was even more disadvantageous for the whites--one or two whites to three hundred or four hundred blacks). 7 Tyson, 6; Jan Rogozinski, A Brief History of the Caribbean (New York: The Penguin Group, 1992) 138- 39. 8 Ibid; see also James, 5-6 (describing cruelty to which slaves were subjected). 9 Rogozinski, 164-65; Julius Scott III, The Common Wind: Currents of Afro American Communication in the Era of the Haitian Revolution PhD dissertation. (Durham: Duke University, 1986) 1. 10 Tyson, 10. 11 Ibid. 12 Knight, 42. 13 See Bernard DeVoto, The Course of Empire [1952] (Boston: Houghton Mifflin Company, 1998) 388. 14 Fick, 206. 15 DeVoto, 388. 16 Fick, 313. 17 DeVoto, 589. 18 Ibid. Shortly thereafter, Leclerc himself died of yellow fever. 19 Rogozinski, 172. 20 Blumberg, 116. 21 James P. Barry, The Louisiana Purchase (New York: Franklin Watts, Inc., 1973) 80 (quoting noted American historian Henry Adams). 22 Blumberg, 77. 23 Ibid, 32. 24 Paul Johnson, A History of the American People (New York: Harper Perennial, 1998) 290 (calling successful settlement of the Mississippi Valley "one of the decisive events in history. By means of it, America became truly dynamic, emerging from the eastern seaboard...into the great river valleys beyond."). 25 The vast Louisiana territory also enabled the young United States to avoid a potentially disastrous military confrontation over the removal of Indians from land coveted by white settlers by providing a territory into which the Indians could be "relocated" as settlers moved into the Mississippi Valley. See Howard Zinn, A People's History of the United States 1492 - Present (New York: Harper Perennial, 1995) 124-25. 26 Barry, 81. 27 Ibid. 28 Johnson, 317-19. 29 Robert Ferrell and Richard Natkiel, Atlas of American History (Greenwich: Brompton Books, 1993) 47; Johnson, 310. 30 Ferrell, 44 (the process of expansion begun by the Louisiana Purchase led directly to the American Civil War. "This war came from rapid expansion and the creation of new states."); D. W. Meinig, The Shaping of America, A Geographical Perspective of 500 Years of History, Continental America, 1800- 1867 Vol. 2 (New Haven: Yale University Press, 1993) 457 (discussing Bleeding Kansas and events leading up to it). 31 Alfred W. Hunt, Haiti's Influence on Antebellum America. (Baton Rouge: Louisiana State University Press, 1988) 190. See also Herbert Aptheker, American Negro Slave Revolts [1943] 5th ed. (New York: International Publishers, 1987) 368 ("There are few phases of ante-bellum Southern life and history that were not in some way influenced by the fear of, or the actual outbreak of, militant concerted slave action."). 32 Althia de Puech Parham, ed., My Odyssey, Experiences of a Young Refugee from Two Revolutions By a Creole of Saint Domingue (Baton Rouge: Louisiana State University Press, 1959) 28. 33 Martin Rus, Night of Fire: The Black Napoleon and the Battle for Haiti (New York: Sarpedon Publishers, Inc., 1994) 5-6. See also A Particular Account of the Commencement and Progress of the Insurrection of the Negroes in St. Domingo (London: J. Sewell, 1792) 5-9 (describing brutal slaughter of whites). 34 Hunt, 115. 35 Thomas O. Ott, The Haitian Revolution (Knoxville: University of Tennessee Press, 1973) 195. 36 Ott, 196. See also Zinn, 169 (noting that the Vesey trial record itself "was ordered destroyed soon after publication, as too dangerous for slaves to see."); Hunt, 181 (noting that John Brown's raid on the arsenal at Harper's Ferry may also have been inspired, at least in part, by the Haitian Revolt. Brown, who had hoped that his raid would ignite a general slave uprising, admitted at his trial to having read widely about Toussaint Louverture). 37 See generally Ott, 196; Hunt, 107-47. 38 Meining, 22; see also Appendix. 39 Ott, 195. 40 Aptheker, 373. 41 Ibid. Content in the History Cooperative database is intended for personal, noncommercial use only. You may not reproduce, publish, distribute, transmit, participate in the transfer or sale of, modify, create derivative works from, display, or in any way exploit the History Cooperative database in whole or in part without the written permission of the copyright holder.


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The Haitian Influenced in Louisiana: Haitian Immigration : Eighteenth and Nineteenth Centuries Overview From Saint Domingue to Louisiana The Black Republic and Louisiana Soldiers, Rebels, and Pirates Afro-Creoles and Americans From Revolution to Romanticism The Haitian Influence on Religion The Civil War The Consequences of the Haitian Migration References Links [help] Match phrase exactly Any of these words Image ID search < Overview The Black Republic and Louisiana > Louisiana and her Caribbean parent colony developed intimate links during the eighteenth century, centered on maritime trade, the exchange of capital and information, and the migration of colonists. From such beginnings, Haitians exerted a profound influence on Louisiana's politics, people, religion, and culture. The colony's officials, responding to anti-slavery plots and uprisings on the island, banned the entry of enslaved Saint Domingans in 1763. Their rebellious actions would continue to impact upon Louisiana's slave trade and immigration policies throughout the age of the American and French revolutions. These two democratic struggles struck fear in the hearts of the Spaniards, who governed Louisiana from 1763 to 1800. They suppressed what they saw as seditious activities and banned subversive materials in a futile attempt to isolate their colony from the spread of democratic revolution. In May 1790 a royal decree prohibited the entry of blacks - enslaved and free - from the French West Indies. A year later, the Haitian Revolution started. The revolution in Saint Domingue unleashed a massive multiracial exodus: the French fled with the bondspeople they managed to keep; so did numerous free people of color, some of whom were slaveholders themselves. In addition, in 1793, a catastrophic fire destroyed two-thirds of the principal city, Cap Français (present-day Cap Haïtien), and nearly ten thousand people left the island for good. In the ensuing decades of revolution, foreign invasion, and civil war, thousands more fled the turmoil. Many moved eastward to Santo Domingo (present-day Dominican Republic) or to nearby Caribbean islands. Large numbers of immigrants, black and white, found shelter in North America, notably in New York, Baltimore (fifty-three ships landed there in July 1793), Philadelphia, Norfolk, Charleston, and Savannah, as well as in Spanish Florida. Nowhere on the continent, however, did the refugee movement exert as profound an influence as in southern Louisiana. Maryland, The Laws of Maryland, with the Charter, the Bill of Rights, the Constitution of the State, and Its Alterations, the Declaration of Independence, and the Constitution of the United States, and Its Amendments; with a General Index. Rev. by Virgil Maxcy., vol. II Memoir of Pierre Toussaint, Born a Slave in St. Domingo by Hannah Farnham Sawyer Lee Freedom certificate of Pierre Toussaint from from Pierre Toussaint papers, 1793-1853, bulk (1822-1853) Between 1791 and 1803, thirteen hundred refugees arrived in New Orleans. The authorities were concerned that some had come with "seditious" ideas. In the spring of 1795, Pointe Coupée was the scene of an attempted insurrection during which planters' homes were burned down. Following the incident, a free émigré from Saint Domingue, Louis Benoit, accused of being "very imbued with the revolutionary maxims which have devastated the said colony" was banished. The failed uprising caused planter Joseph Pontalba to take "heed of the dreadful calamities of Saint Domingue, and of the germ of revolt only too widespread among our slaves." Continued unrest in Pointe Coupée and on the German Coast contributed to a decision to shut down the entire slave trade in the spring of 1796. The Politics of Fear: French Louisianans and the Slave Trade, 1786 - 1809 from Plantation Society by Paul F. LaChance, Université D'Ottawa In 1800 Louisiana officials debated reopening it, but they agreed that Saint Domingue blacks would be barred from entry. They also noted the presence of black and white insurgents from the French West Indies who were "propagating dangerous doctrines among our Negroes." Their slaves seemed more "insolent," "ungovernable," and "insubordinate" than they had just five years before. That same year, Spain ceded Louisiana back to France, and planters continued to live in fear of revolts. After future emperor Napoleon Bonaparte sold the colony to the United States in 1803 because his disastrous expedition against Saint Domingue had stretched his finances and military too thin, events in the island loomed even larger in Louisiana.


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The Haitian influence on Religion: Haitian Immigration : Eighteenth and Nineteenth Centuries Overview From Saint Domingue to Louisiana The Black Republic and Louisiana Soldiers, Rebels, and Pirates Afro-Creoles and Americans From Revolution to Romanticism The Haitian Influence on Religion The Civil War The Consequences of the Haitian Migration References Links [help] Match phrase exactly Any of these words Image ID search < From Revolution to Romanticism The Civil War > In 1847 Lanusse and his friends helped to assure the survival of a small Catholic religious order dedicated to charitable work among the city's enslaved people and free black indigents. The congregation of the Sisters of the Holy Family was founded in 1842 by Henriette Delille, yet another prominent Afro-Creole of Haitian ancestry. As Delille's sisterhood struggled to maintain their community during the 1840s, a coalition of Afro-Creole writers, artisans, and philanthropists obtained corporate status and funding for the religious society. When Delille took her formal religious vows in 1852, she headed Louisiana's first Catholic religious order of black women and the nation's second African-American community of Catholic nuns. Bearing striking testimony to the enormous impact of the Haitian diaspora, the first Catholic community of African-American nuns, the Oblate Sisters of Providence, founded in 1829 in Baltimore, originated in the Haitian refugee movement. In 1848, Armand Lanusse and other Romantic writers took concrete measures to promote reform by establishing La Société Catholique pour l'Instruction des Orphelins dans l'Indigence (Catholic Society for the Instruction of Indigent Orphans). Through their organization, black activists executed the terms of a bequest by Madame Justine Firmin Couvent, a native of Guinea and a former slave, to establish a school in the Faubourg Marigny for the district's destitute orphans of color. Appalled by the indigence and illiteracy of the children, Couvent donated land and several buildings for an educational facility of which Lanusse became the first principal. While Lanusse pursued his reform agenda within the existing institutional framework, another contributor to the volume, Nelson Desbrosses, followed a nontraditional path to empowerment and change. He traveled to Haiti before the Civil War, studied with a leading practitioner of Vodou, and returned to New Orleans with a reputation as a successful healer and spirit medium. Desbrosses undoubtedly recognized Vodou's historical significance in Haiti's independence struggle. During the revolution, the religion served as a medium for political organization as well as an ideological force for change. On the battlefield, Vodou's spiritual power proved decisive in reinforcing the determination of revolutionaries in their struggle for freedom. In the North Province, houngans (Vodou priests) sustained the revolt by mobilizing as many as forty thousand enslaved people. Vodou thrived in New Orleans until the 1803 Louisiana Purchase, when President Thomas Jefferson and other political leaders sought to undermine Creole predominance by Americanizing the culture of southern Louisiana. The post-1809 influx of Haitian refugees, however, slowed the Americanization process and assured the vitality of New Orleans' Creole culture for another twenty-five years. Immigrant believers in Vodou infused the religion's Louisiana variant with Afro-Caribbean elements of belief and ritual. In the relatively tolerant religious milieu of antebellum New Orleans, Haitian immigrants joined with Creole slaves, free blacks, and even whites to assure the religion's ascendancy. Through Vodou, practiced in secrecy, Afro-Creoles preserved the memory of their African past and experienced psychological release by way of a religion that served as one of the few areas of totally autonomous black activity. In transcending ethnic, class, and gender distinctions, Vodou helped to sustain a liberal Latin European religious ethic that recognized the spiritual equality of all persons. Vodou's interracial appeal and egalitarian spirit, reinvigorated by Haitian immigrants, offered a dramatic alternative to the Anglo- American racial order. Beginning in the 1860s, Vodou assemblies were systematically suppressed, but the famed "Vodou Queen" Marie Laveau continued to exert great influence over her interracial following. In 1874 some twelve thousand spectators swarmed to the shores of Lake Pontchartrain to catch a glimpse of Laveau performing her legendary rites. By that time Laveau and other Afro-Creole Vodouists had fashioned some of the nation's most lasting folkloric traditions, as well as a religion of resistance that endures to the present moment.


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Haitian Immigration : Eighteenth and Nineteenth Centuries Overview From Saint Domingue to Louisiana The Black Republic and Louisiana Soldiers, Rebels, and Pirates Afro-Creoles and Americans From Revolution to Romanticism The Haitian Influence on Religion The Civil War The Consequences of the Haitian Migration References Links [help] Match phrase exactly Any of these words Image ID search < From Revolution to Romanticism The Civil War > In 1847 Lanusse and his friends helped to assure the survival of a small Catholic religious order dedicated to charitable work among the city's enslaved people and free black indigents. The congregation of the Sisters of the Holy Family was founded in 1842 by Henriette Delille, yet another prominent Afro-Creole of Haitian ancestry. As Delille's sisterhood struggled to maintain their community during the 1840s, a coalition of Afro-Creole writers, artisans, and philanthropists obtained corporate status and funding for the religious society. When Delille took her formal religious vows in 1852, she headed Louisiana's first Catholic religious order of black women and the nation's second African-American community of Catholic nuns. Bearing striking testimony to the enormous impact of the Haitian diaspora, the first Catholic community of African-American nuns, the Oblate Sisters of Providence, founded in 1829 in Baltimore, originated in the Haitian refugee movement. In 1848, Armand Lanusse and other Romantic writers took concrete measures to promote reform by establishing La Société Catholique pour l'Instruction des Orphelins dans l'Indigence (Catholic Society for the Instruction of Indigent Orphans). Through their organization, black activists executed the terms of a bequest by Madame Justine Firmin Couvent, a native of Guinea and a former slave, to establish a school in the Faubourg Marigny for the district's destitute orphans of color. Appalled by the indigence and illiteracy of the children, Couvent donated land and several buildings for an educational facility of which Lanusse became the first principal. While Lanusse pursued his reform agenda within the existing institutional framework, another contributor to the volume, Nelson Desbrosses, followed a nontraditional path to empowerment and change. He traveled to Haiti before the Civil War, studied with a leading practitioner of Vodou, and returned to New Orleans with a reputation as a successful healer and spirit medium. Desbrosses undoubtedly recognized Vodou's historical significance in Haiti's independence struggle. During the revolution, the religion served as a medium for political organization as well as an ideological force for change. On the battlefield, Vodou's spiritual power proved decisive in reinforcing the determination of revolutionaries in their struggle for freedom. In the North Province, houngans (Vodou priests) sustained the revolt by mobilizing as many as forty thousand enslaved people. Vodou thrived in New Orleans until the 1803 Louisiana Purchase, when President Thomas Jefferson and other political leaders sought to undermine Creole predominance by Americanizing the culture of southern Louisiana. The post-1809 influx of Haitian refugees, however, slowed the Americanization process and assured the vitality of New Orleans' Creole culture for another twenty-five years. Immigrant believers in Vodou infused the religion's Louisiana variant with Afro-Caribbean elements of belief and ritual. In the relatively tolerant religious milieu of antebellum New Orleans, Haitian immigrants joined with Creole slaves, free blacks, and even whites to assure the religion's ascendancy. Through Vodou, practiced in secrecy, Afro-Creoles preserved the memory of their African past and experienced psychological release by way of a religion that served as one of the few areas of totally autonomous black activity. In transcending ethnic, class, and gender distinctions, Vodou helped to sustain a liberal Latin European religious ethic that recognized the spiritual equality of all persons. Vodou's interracial appeal and egalitarian spirit, reinvigorated by Haitian immigrants, offered a dramatic alternative to the Anglo- American racial order. Beginning in the 1860s, Vodou assemblies were systematically suppressed, but the famed "Vodou Queen" Marie Laveau continued to exert great influence over her interracial following. In 1874 some twelve thousand spectators swarmed to the shores of Lake Pontchartrain to catch a glimpse of Laveau performing her legendary rites. By that time Laveau and other Afro-Creole Vodouists had fashioned some of the nation's most lasting folkloric traditions, as well as a religion of resistance that endures to the present moment.


choco_chic
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Islandbee, please shoot yourself.



islandbee
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http://www.inmotionaame.org/migrations/topic.cfm?migration=5&topic=7 http://www.inmotionaame.org/migrations/topic.cfm?migration=5&topic=2&bhcp=1 http://www.historycooperative.org/journals/ht/34.1/thomson.html


islandbee
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Btw most of donations are not going to the Haitians. There are still people who has no food,proper medical needs despite of all those funds collected.I heard from from people there and even a non-Haitian friend who told me those funds are not being used. Well since Haitians have been pictured in a negative manner for so long many people will believed that the Haitians took the money and didn't do anything.Which most likely will be a lie.


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published on: 1/17/2010 by Sir Hilary Beckles THE UNIVERSITY OF THE WEST INDIES is in the process of conceiving how best to deliver a major conference on the theme Rethinking And Rebuilding Haiti. I am very keen to provide an input into this exercise because for too long there has been a popular perception that somehow the Haitian nation-building project, launched on January 1, 1804, has failed on account of mismanagement, ineptitude, corruption. Buried beneath the rubble of imperial propaganda, out of both Western Europe and the United States, is the evidence which shows that Haiti’s independence was defeated by an aggressive North-Atlantic alliance that could not imagine their world inhabited by a free regime of Africans as representatives of the newly emerging democracy. The evidence is striking, especially in the context of France. The Haitians fought for their freedom and won, as did the Americans fifty years earlier. The Americans declared their independence and crafted an extraordinary constitution that set out a clear message about the value of humanity and the right to freedom, justice, and liberty. In the midst of this brilliant discourse, they chose to retain slavery as the basis of the new nation state. The founding fathers therefore could not see beyond race, as the free state was built on a slavery foundation. The water was poisoned in the well; the Americans went back to the battlefield a century later to resolve the fact that slavery and freedom could not comfortably co-exist in the same place. The French, also, declared freedom, fraternity and equality as the new philosophies of their national transformation and gave the modern world a tremendous progressive boost by so doing. They abolished slavery, but Napoleon Bonaparte could not imagine the republic without slavery and targeted the Haitians for a new, more intense regime of slavery. The British agreed, as did the Dutch, Spanish and Portuguese. All were linked in communion over the 500 000 Blacks in Haiti, the most populous and prosperous Caribbean colony. As the jewel of the Caribbean, they all wanted to get their hands on it. With a massive slave base, the English, French and Dutch salivated over owning it – and the people. The people won a ten-year war, the bloodiest in modern history, and declared their independence. Every other country in the Americas was based on slavery. Haiti was freedom, and proceeded to place in its 1805 Independence Constitution that any person of African descent who arrived on its shores would be declared free, and a citizen of the republic. For the first time since slavery had commenced, Blacks were the subjects of mass freedom and citizenship in a nation. The French refused to recognise Haiti’s independence and declared it an illegal pariah state. The Americans, whom the Haitians looked to in solidarity as their mentor in independence, refused to recognise them, and offered solidarity instead to the French. The British, who were negotiating with the French to obtain the ownership title to Haiti, also moved in solidarity, as did every other nation-state the Western world. Haiti was isolated at birth – ostracised and denied access to world trade, finance, and institutional development. It was the most vicious example of national strangulation recorded in modern history. The Cubans, at least, have had Russia, China, and Vietnam. The Haitians were alone from inception. The crumbling began. Then came 1825; the moment of full truth. The republic is celebrating its 21st anniversary. There is national euphoria in the streets of Port-au-Prince. The economy is bankrupt; the political leadership isolated. The cabinet took the decision that the state of affairs could not continue. The country had to find a way to be inserted back into the world economy. The French government was invited to a summit. Officials arrived and told the Haitian government that they were willing to recognise the country as a sovereign nation but it would have to pay compensation and reparation in exchange. The Haitians, with backs to the wall, agreed to pay the French. The French government sent a team of accountants and actuaries into Haiti in order to place a value on all lands, all physical assets, the 500 000 citizens who were formerly enslaved, animals, and all other commercial properties and services. The sums amounted to 150 million gold francs. Haiti was told to pay this reparation to France in return for national recognition. The Haitian government agreed; payments began immediately. Members of the Cabinet were also valued because they had been enslaved people before independence. Thus began the systematic destruction of the Republic of Haiti. The French government bled the nation and rendered it a failed state. It was a merciless exploitation that was designed and guaranteed to collapse the Haitian economy and society. Haiti was forced to pay this sum until 1922 when the last instalment was made. During the long 19th century, the payment to France amounted to up to 70 per cent of the country’s foreign exchange earnings. Jamaica today pays up to 70 per cent in order to service its international and domestic debt. Haiti was crushed by this debt payment. It descended into financial and social chaos. The republic did not stand a chance. France was enriched and it took pleasure from the fact that having been defeated by Haitians on the battlefield, it had won on the field of finance. In the years when the coffee crops failed, or the sugar yield was down, the Haitian government borrowed on the French money market at double the going interest rate in order to repay the French government. When the Americans invaded the country in the early 20th century, one of the reasons offered was to assist the French in collecting its reparations. The collapse of the Haitian nation resides at the feet of France and America, especially. These two nations betrayed, failed, and destroyed the dream that was Haiti; crushed to dust in an effort to destroy the flower of freedom and the seed of justice. Haiti did not fail. It was destroyed by two of the most powerful nations on earth, both of which continue to have a primary interest in its current condition. The sudden quake has come in the aftermath of summers of hate. In many ways the quake has been less destructive than the hate. Human life was snuffed out by the quake, while the hate has been a long and inhumane suffocation – a crime against humanity. During the 2001 UN Conference on Race in Durban, South Africa, strong representation was made to the French government to repay the 150 million francs. The value of this amount was estimated by financial actuaries as US$21 billion. This sum of capital could rebuild Haiti and place it in a position to re-engage the modern world. It was illegally extracted from the Haitian people and should be repaid. It is stolen wealth. In so doing, France could discharge its moral obligation to the Haitian people. For a nation that prides itself in the celebration of modern diplomacy, France, in order to exist with the moral authority of this diplomacy in this post-modern world, should do the just and legal thing. Such an act at the outset of this century would open the door for a sophisticated interface of past and present, and set the Haitian nation free at last. Sir Hilary Beckles is pro-vice-chancellor and Principal of the Cave Hill Campus, UWI. If you set a trap for others, you will get caught in it yourself. If you roll a boulder down on others, it will crush you instead. Prov 26:27 (NLT) 10. Opus Dei


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Even though im light skinned...dont be mad at that! I would've LOVED to see a dark Haitian woman get the title!!! ((holla at me--esp if ya Mike Harris...NOT!)) **SUGARLUMP IN DA HOUSE** Myspace.com/FuerteMami


Egomaniacal1
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More MTO race baiting!! Did the article say this chick is 100% Haitian? Then whats the damn problem. Them light brights always got an in but 14 and 13 looking damn good too...thats just the way the cookie crumbles sometimes.


aqua2208
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@acnicerus1 I AGREE THAT SHE DOESN'T EVEN LOOK HAITIAN...


Rugby_Lover
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@ islandbee WTF?! Kill urself twice then again once more. Mto y did ya'll say that? Maybe she just had skills.


yoSoyBoricuax3
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She looks Like She's Domonican From SantoDominqo part of d.r if so thats whats up I Got Love For My Platanos 100% she is Beautiful &- If You Commenters Disaqree Your Reason To Hate In Understandable x3.!


TheBlockObama
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whats the big deal she looks way better than the rest of them...so she should win...wtf color gotta due with anything?


charra
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I'm srry but I agree when u think of haiti you think of beautiful dark skin women to represent haiti she look dominican


yungbankhead
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shid wat eva she is she look sexy


ManUpOrBitchOut
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debbeebeee, juicy, and Mz_Xclusive are baddddd holla at me


sexyndacity
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Ignorance is bliss. Read a history book. Sounds like many of the latinas on here don't know anything about their fellow latinos. She looks mixed and. What if she is black and white hatian. There are white hatians, hello the french ruled hati b4 they got their independence. Also hati and dominican r. Use to be one country so that's why dominicanos are black. Latinos need to get this spanish crap out their heads puerto ricans, dominicans are considered low to the real spanish. Spanish don't like you.


sexyndacity
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There are so many chocolate women in haiti so what if light girl wins this year. She is the prettiest and i looked at all the girls. They just weren't that cute, not because she is light. they just aren't. My cousin won miss teen jamaica, what they shouldn't pick her becus she is indian and the majority of jamaicans are black. Stupid ppl.


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lol lite'skin is in http://twitter.com/sup_freshnikes Myspace.com/freshtheproducer



dtrouble
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I'll smash Miss Haiti... i would've given her the crown aswell. People win these things by performance not by color but if i was a judge she would've gotten my vote easily lol


shi
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THIS IS SAD! YOU GOT BLACKS HATING ON EACH OTHER, THIS IS WHAT WILLIE LYNCH WROTE IN A LETTER CALLED "HOW TO KEEP A BLACK MAN DOWN", AS YOU CAN SEE THIS STILL WORKS TODAY! THIS LETTER WAS WRITTEN IN 1712 ALMOST 300 YRS AGO....


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Just a few lines of Willie Lynch's letter: I have outlined a number of differences among the slaves, and I take these differences and make them bigger. I use fear, distrust, and envy for control purposes. These methods have worked on my modest plantation in the West Indies, and it will work throughout the South. Take this simple little test of differences and think about them. On the top of my list is "Age", but it is there because it only starts with an "A"; the second is "Color" or shade; there is intelligence, size, sex, size of plantations, attitude of owners, whether the slaves live in the valley, on a hill, East, West, North, South, have fine or coarse hair, or is tall or short. Now that you have a list of differences, I shall give you an outline of action--but before that, I shall assure you that distrust is stronger than trust, and envy is stronger than adulation, respect, or admiration. Don't forget, you must pitch the old Black vs. the young Black male, and the young Black male against the old Black male. You must use the dark skinned slaves vs the light skinned slaves, and the light skinned slaves vs. the dark skinned slaves. You must use the female vs. the male, and the male vs. the female. You must also have your servants and overseers distrust all Blacks, but it is necessary that your slaves trust and depend on us. They must love, respect, and trust only us. THIS SH!T IS STILL IN AFFECT! AS YOU CAN SEE WITH THESE IGNORANT COMMENTS!


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RHK786
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I'm a Haitian born NYC raised woman who went to an American school in Haiti.The rich class also known as the Elite are mulatto,no diferent then the mulattos that go to spellman and morehouse,that was depicted in skooldaze.What was the saying by the light skin black american don't bring home anyone darker than a paperbag.Yeah racial classism exists here too.


jenehne18
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mto....now if someody woulda said how come she dark skin it woulda been another story.....it ain't cool to judge somebody cuz they lite skin....be real


mentaldisoder
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Stop that bulsh*t!!!!!! I know her and her parents. She's 100% Haiti. And we have Haitian of all color. And we don't have this level of racism I see in USA. We get ride of that bul*sh*t racism since 1804. I'm sorry but you Black in America you just keep fitting against that sh*t.


disinquiringmind
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She don't even look like she from Haiti. She just went there to win the contest. lol


mentaldisoder
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Stop that bulsh*t!!!!! I know her and her parents. She's 100% Haiti. And we have Haitian of all color. And we don't have this level of racism I see in USA. We get ride of that bul*sh*t racism since 1804. I'm sorry but you Black in America you just keep fitting against that sh*t She not in the 5% percent you talking about. And do you know that 5% you tALKING ABOUT IT'S INCLUDED BLACK PEOPLE TOO. DONT BE SURPRISE IF YOU GO TO HAITI AND SEE WE HAVE DIRT POOR WHIT MEN.


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jabugy
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Here we go again with the color sh*t. How can we fight to be treated as an equal amongs our own race if we continue to put down and not excepted our own race, don't make since. Black people wake the fu*k up! Please before its to late. We keep this sh*t up we will enslave ourselves again!


lilmama239fl
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I AGREE WITH ZOMBIEGIRL AND WHITLEY4U CUZ ME34 SOUND LAME ASS FUK A DARK SKINNED GIRL NEED 2 LAY YUR AZZ OUT ROGER Dat!


vonversace
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GOES TO SHOW HOW LITTLE SOME OF YOU KNOW ABOUT MY COUNTRY HAITI BUT EVERY1 HAS THEIR OPINIONS. SHE WON SHE DESERVED IT. MOVE ON. THAT 1 OF OUR PROBLEM, WE CANT MOVE ON FROM THIS IM LIGHT AND YOU'RE DARK, RACIST BULLSHIT AMONG US..SAD


sexybody
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dark skin, light skin who cares


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MistyRN
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Miss USA is a Arab....


MaintainTheSexy
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This issues of light and dark will die when the end of time arrives. Im dark and this is what I do. I tell myself that "no bitch cant stand next to me. Because I am me. I am special in my own way" At the end of the day, its a matter of beauty. Whether you are dark or light. If a dark chick is prettier than a light chick, than thats what it is. It will be a fact that cant be denied. So what I tell a dark chick is, make yourself look as beautiful as possible. Stop wearing obvious weaves. Grow your hair out as long as you can so that no one can say anything bad about your hair. Make your hair....


RevaBeva
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hmm....typical. NEXT!


MaintainTheSexy
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emphasis on YOUR hair look as beautiful as possible. Even if you stick a few tracks in it, make sure the hair that you leave out blends perfectly with the weave. Next, keep your skin on point. Beautiful skin stands taller and stronger than a ugly or alright skinned chick. Keep you body on point, keep your toes on point, manicure and pedicures and make sure your teeth are white and clean. Oh and not to mention, make sure u know how to dress (shoes, bags, accessories, alla dat) You follow these tips and no bitch, light or white can eff with u.


Creole_Barbie081
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I'm so sick of this crap.You do not have to be dark-skinned to "properly represent" any country!Our community is so screwed up with it comes to skin tone!


sexybody
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everyone is a little racist


Mister718
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really so what you guys are saying is that blacks or latinas shouldnt win miss usa because they are minorities. the only way she couldnt be a symbol for haiti is if shes not haitian. if someone said an asian won miss usa and its not right cuz shes a minority streets would riot. so shes too light to represent her own country??? wow whoever agrees with that is gunna catch some serious karma haha shits funny yo


AprilBaby
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1st of all yes, these competitions are very stupid 2nd of all, MTO r not ignorant for making this statement bcuz is damn tru, light skin girls always get picked for these things, luk at the biggest female singers; bey, rhi, cia, nicki, milian, aaliyah, monica, keri and dark skin only jhud, kelly rowland, brandy!! its not fairly represented and, evry1 kno majority of Haitians are darker than that girl so how she guna represent them, 4 dark girls in top 5 and the 1 light girl wins... typical


HAITIAN69
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I have never seen so many ignorant comments in my life. You guys should be proud of her. Her Mother Mireille Durocher Bertin (my mother's Cousin) was assassinated in 1995 by the then gvt of Haiti because she was protecting the people. Her name is in fact an indian name but I also have cousins call Amir and Naike. She is Haitian so was her mother and her father, our entire family are haitian, they have this contest every year and it is the FIRST TIME a light skin girl wins so how about we push her to be the best after everything she went thru.


missmadisond
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dayummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm she hot


crystlizm
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Damned If you do, damned If you don't. She looks mixed though.


nlsimmons
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This is so dissappointing, all the anger and hate. Sarodj is the daughter of my cousin Mirielle who was a lawyer and activist for the haitian people. She was assasinated for standing up for her beliefs. What a great tribute to her mom for Sarodj to win Miss Haiti. It has made our family proud. Both of her parents are Haitian and she was born in Haiti. Our family has shades from light to dark and we are all proud to be Haitian. After the devastating earthquake isn't this a positive and uplifting way to support the country? She is a smart girl who will be a great representative of Haiti!


Soy_Antillana
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I have to agree with the girl down below.ALOT of these pageants are just about the politics.She is VERY beuatiful as are the rest of the women but shes also A LAWYER.SHES IN COLLEGE WORKING ON HER MASTERS.SPEAKS SEVERAL LANGUAGES.which is guess isnt a big deal b/c most people in haiti especially on the border can understand spanish as well BUT shes a sure kinda candidate for miss universe.Despite looks i think she was picked for that reason as well.We have all read about the ridiculous answer alotta of these pageant contestants give.Theres a pressure to nominated the educated as well


Soy_Antillana
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Im cuban and im brown from Florida and I seen plenty lightskin haitians!I moved to AZ for school and people assume im black and mexican.Cuz my name spnaish but im dark?.We put too much emphasis on skin tone.People come in so many different shades.La Vasquez wrote a dope poem about being brown and latin.How hard it is to representing your culture,be proud,and yet be what people want you to be?.Im sure the very lightskin have the same problem.Like her for example.Just b/c shes light makes her less haitian? thats a very closeminded way to think and that type of thinking holds the community back


GPadre
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The woman is a lawyer, speaks 4 languages fluently (Creole, French, English & Spanish) and learning a 5th (Mandarin), her mother was killed by ex-president Aristide supporters because she was politically involved. Though all the girls were very pretty, I don't think the others had that kind of baggage. In my family (all Haitians) we go from white skin to the darkest of blacks, but we are not complexed. So fuck MediaTakeOut for starting this non-sense!



princess1245
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I remember when I went to school and people kept saying I was Jamacain. Im like no Im not Im Haitian oh i couldnt tell. I am not as light as Miss Haiti, who I'm not hating on. Im just a pretty niki minaj brown and it pissed me off. Im not sure why people are under the impression that Haitian people are ugly but we come in all shades and we are just as beautiful. She got picked cuz she looked better. I have all shades in my family and they looked a whole lot better than those other contestants. Such ignorant comments some dark skinned people feel insecure that is something they need to address, because last time I checked light skinned is not a race.