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November 27, 2007. The year in music wouldn't be complete without another album push back. MediaTakeOut.com has learned that Nas' new album - called The 'N Word' has been pushed back to February next year.
But there's more to this pushback. The word coming out of Def Jam is that they're looking to capitalize on the controversy by having it released at the start of Black History Month.
Nas, we know you're trying to be provocative and sell records. But you need to be smarter than to have some fools over at a record label push you into doing some disrespectful mess like this....
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| imaflirt20 |
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| hanzm |
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DAG NAS |
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wtf??? 1ST |
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| caramel7196 |
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THEY ALWAYS PUSHING ALBUMS BACK!! |
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| cat4everrr |
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stop playing..lol. i'm gonna boycott his tail if it gets released during black history month. just crapping over all the hard work of his fore fathers |
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| joesama |
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nas sucks... hiphop died when he signed under hov... sucker... |
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Oh wow!
Whata way to represent your self and race! |
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| bigfella |
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Wow, that's a slap in the face to black people everywhere |
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| MRSGOODIDEA |
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GOOD MORNING ALL |
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| muzali |
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wtf is nas on anyway X.....y would u name yo albulm that |
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| JuiceBox |
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he looks real sexy and dapper in that photo up there. |
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| DeeChocolate |
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What happened to Nas...He was so pro-black,now he is just that, a ni&&a. Maybe his funds are drying up? |
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| maxi |
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Good Morning...is it me or is Nas looking better than ever!!!! Is he still with Kelis? |
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| Antidumb |
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We need to show WHO'S BOSS
Let White People look like RETARDS, at the counter buying this CRAP.
I don't care what he says on the album we are not trying to give White People NEW licenses to use the word.
WE MUST KNOW WHERE IN CONTROL.
At the end of the day Artist will DO WHAT WE SAY, to sell ALBUMS, they better or THEY WILL BE DROPPED FROM THEIR LABEL.
Nas(though good back in the day) He is TOO HIGH, to give him this type of ARTISTIC CONTROL over such a SENSITIVE WORD being the NAME OF HIS ALBUM.
I saw him being interviewed by a White lady he couldn't even explain what the album was going to be about, and she asked him could she say the word he told her YES if she's talking about the album.
HE SOUNDS LIKE A DAMN FOOL, AND NEEDS TO GO SIT DOWN IN REHAB SOMEWHERE, HIM AND KELIS WHO'S DOWNSLIDING. |
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| mocha_frap |
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right on antidumb!! right on!!! |
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| SherRoyal |
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@JOESAMA....I AGREE HE SOLD HIS SOLD TO THE DEVIL AND LOOK WHAT IT GAVE HIM.....NOTHIN BUT A FEW CAMEOS IN HOV'S VIDEOS.....SMH |
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| sosincere |
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dooes anyone here actually listen to NAS? I am guessing NOT! Look I am a hip hop head to the fullest. If nas is naming his album this it is because he is being political in nature. He is trying to make a statement about the word, culture, and society in general! If Cornell West announced that he was going to give a speech called "Ni$$a" everyone would already know dude got something relevant to say. They would not question his motives because it would be an understood that he is going to attack this cultural stigma at some level! They would already know that he is not BLINDLY doing this, it is done deliberately and with some type of message! THE SAME WITH NAS PEOPLE!!!!! He is one of the most prolific and political hip hop stars of my generation. THAT IS WHY PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT UP ON HIP HOP SHOULD REFRAIN FROM COMMENTING ABOUT IT. Everyone is in agreement that it needs to be sort of reborn but the misguided attacks do just as much harm as the hoe's and bytch's. For yall not to know why dude is naming his album this lets me know ya'll don't listen to the man! |
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| sosincere |
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AND ANTIDUMB.....AGAIN....check more than one source. As a matter of fact check PLAYAHATA.COM. Not only did Nas give a very well articulated reason for why he is naming his album this he also gave a his perspective into the word, hip hop culture and it's influences and what will be it's demise. |
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I listen to Nas and hip hop! I dont see the point in him naming his album this! In fact, I still dont see why people use the word PERIOD! |
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| brotherj |
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I bet Mr. & Mrs YT is celebrating right now. This is a sorry shame for us as black people! Young blacks don't know their history, if they did they would know why many of us would be upset!! |
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| MDL219 |
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Sosincere, you are 100%. I can not wait to hear this one. I am going to buy as many copies of it as I can. It needs to be heard. |
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tallbone if you REALLY listen to Nas HOW do you not understand why he is naming his album this. THE POINT IS NOONE KNOWS WHAT HE IS EXACTLY GOING TO SAY UNTIL HIS ALBUM DROPS! But if you listen to Nas you should know it has to do with SOMETHING POLITICAL IN NATURE. He is going to in some way attack the word...not big up it! |
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from an interview with NAS FROM PLAYAHATA.COM.
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Im a street disciple. Im talking to the streets. Stay out of our business. You aint got no business worrying about what the word n***er is or acting like you know what my album is about without talking to me. Whether you in the NAACP or you Jesse Jackson. I respect all of them I just want them to know: Never fall victim to Fox. Never fall victim to the s**t they do. What they do is try to hurry up and get you on the phone and try to get you to talk about something you might not know about yet.
Nas continued, If Cornell West was making an album called N***er, they would know hes got something intellectual to say. To think Im gonna say something thats not intellectual is calling me a [EXPLETIVE], and to be called a [EXPLETIVE] by Jesse Jackson and the NAACP is counterproductive, counter-revolutionary.
The rapper also explained what he hopes to accomplish by titling the album, N***er. He said, I wanna make the word easy on mutha****as ears. You see how white boys aint mad at [EXPLETIVE] cause it dont have the same (sting) as [EXPLETIVE]? I want [EXPLETIVE] to have less meaning (than) [EXPLETIVE]. With all the bulls**t thats going on in the world, racism is at its peak. I wanna do the s**t thats not being done. I wanna be the artist who aint out. I wanna make the music I wanna hear.
The rapper added, Were taking power from the word. No disrespect to none of them who were part of the civil-rights movement, but some of my dudes in the streets dont know who (civil-rights activist) Medgar Evers was. I love Medgar Evers, but some of the brothas in the streets dont know Medgar Evers, they know who Nas is. And to my older people who dont now who Nas is and who dont know what a street disciple is, stay outta this mutha****in conversation. Well talk to you when were ready. Right now, were on a whole new movement. Were taking power from that word.
HOPE THIS CLEARS IT UP FOR SOME OF YA'LL |
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| sosincere |
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the "expetives" are the word ni$$A. So ya'll know! |
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| Antidumb |
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@sosincere
And when he PORTRAYED JESUS ON THE CROSS.
Then did the song with GINUNEWINE "PAY ME BACK", basically saying he's a PIMP.
What did that mean?
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NAS is ALL ABOUT PUBLICITY STUNTS, and your TOO WHIPPED BY THE HYPE TO SEE IT.
His first albums when there was LESS PRESSURE he was being MORE OF A CONSIOUS BROTHER.
Now, he's just desperate to SELL LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE, and will DO ANYTHING CONTROVERSAL.
In these current times, is it MANDATORY for him to continue to spread a word that can be USED AGAINST US?
NO
I hope the alubm comes out, and you have to explain and be a spokesperson for him about WHY WHITE PEOPLE CAN'T SAY [EXPLETIVE], when it gets to the point NAS IS TAKING IT.
STOP PLAYING GAMES WITH SOCIETY.
Take a STANCE STAND BY IT.
DOES THE WORD OFFEND YOU OR NOT?
WE CAN BE PAINS IN THE ASSES. |
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| chocolatemocha |
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Thats a good stunt! But Nas is an intellegent rapper he has a statement.
2007 Sexiest Artist/ 2008 Calendar
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what a loser! wanna be a star 4 life! |
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antidumb.....
#1 When he portrayed jusus on the cross he was using a metaphore for the fact that whenever you STAND up and speak the truth you will carry a cross, a burden to bear! (hell my pastor says that every other week in church). And he calls himself a STREET DECIPLE....a reference to christianity...a statement meaning he is the one who talks for the brther on the street, the thugs, the dope boys. He says he speaks for that segment of the population that folks like you deem as worthless.
# 2 He is an artist not Jesus himself. Marvin Gaye broke ground when he released songs such as Troubled Man and whats going on , BUT the critics discredited him because they say he made songs like sexual heeling. (that song although popular was very controversial at the time). Tupac made Dear mama, Trapped, and Brendas got a baby, but made Hitem up and I get around. Trick daddy makes some the most ignorant songs to date but also got BANGGERS like AmeriKKKa. Martin L. King was an adulter, Noah was a drunk...so on and so forth. So what was your point?
#3 I do not condone the word. I do not use the word at all in everyday conversation. BUT what I also don't make it a habit to do is to bash brothers who are OBVIOUSLY trying to raise the consciousness of my people, no matter if I like the packaging or not. Nas had like 10 conscious songs on his last album. He except with 1 album has consistently dropped conscious music...so what are you talking about? You would discredit his complete package over the minority club songs he puts out?
#4 why in every post you offer do you bring up us in regards to how WHITE folks see us. You seem less concerned with the empowerment of your people than what you do withthe fact that we embarrass you in front of your cracka friends!! You ALWAYS come off like our soul mission as black folks is to gain approval in whity's society! Im sorry sweetie I see relevance and potential in all my people. From the dope boys to corporate ken. The dope boys need direction, but you cannot reach them fighting that 1960's fight. Its a new day and we need a new approach. Let Nas open up eyes the way he can! Like he said they dont know Medgar but they know him! How can you be so critical over the PACKAGING without examining the content????? Thats a very foolish move, and a very shallow way to analyze anything! Just my opinion but you need to stick to academia and leave the streets to someone else! You talk to middle class black america and let someone else handle the rest. Your problem is you seem to think that one approach will work for the entire struggle for equality. NOT THE CASE. Bill Cosby is the man for my Dad. Nas is the man for my Son! |
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Nas keep doing yo thing!!! haters fall back cuz all you muthafukkas is gon buy tha shyt! especially if they play it on the radio 100 times a day like they do all that other bullshyt. i love you Nas! wit yo fine ass!!!! |
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did you not read what the brother said????? how can you hate on that? |
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I have to agree with sosincere on this one. Before we get all outraged about this album, maybe we need to educate ourselves about Nas' intentions when naming it such a controversial word.
And even if I don't necessarily agree with his logic, I definitely understand his reasoning. Why DO we continue to give this word so much power over us? Plenty of other ethnicities have been descriminated against and demeaned, but they haven't let their past and those racials slurs slow their roll. So why does the black community come to a screeching halt over one word? It's something that deserves discussion and if Nas thinks his album will serve as a catalyst to get us thinking, more power to him.
It's like that whole "Read a Book" controversy from a while back. We condemn folks who are trying to get us to think outside of the box and take a look at our actions. Black satirist and social commentators can't get a leg up because anytime they hit on a touchy issue, we get outraged and run with it without really looking at the purpose. |
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LET ME JUST END THIS BECAUSE I KNOW AS A RACE
WE HAVE OUR "HEADS UP OUR ASSES"
Here's a quote and story from JILL SCOTT, WHO WAS CALLED A NIG*GER
Explain to her HOW IT'S OK.
OPEN THE FLOODGATES WHY DON'T YOU-----
Jill Scott explains a recent incident where she was called a [EXPLETIVE] and how she handled it:
I was waiting outside for the valet to bring the car round, and these I say kids, but they must have been 25, looking wealthy, five-oclock-in-the-morning wasted. And this guys saying, Step back [EXPLETIVE], step back [EXPLETIVE]. Hes saying it like its a song, but theres nobody out there but me. I was taken aback, and I said, Excuse me?
And he said, Shut your mouth and dont say a word when a white man is talking. Continue »
Im not kidding. I started laughing, and I followed him and his cohorts through the parking lot laughing hysterically, and they became more and more uncomfortable. It was one of the best moments of outrageous laughter Ive had. To think for one moment I could possibly fit into that box I am so far from that word that it is funny. They looked so uncomfortable; I wanted to emasculate him, to make sure he was getting no nookie that night. The girls sobered up and were looking scared. It was something else - the first time in my life Ive been called that. Wow. But I enjoyed it. You must fight back; its imperative. I like the fight in me now.
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We ARE NOT A THINKING RACE
We think just because WE WANT TO CONTROL SOMETHING WE CAN.
Do we even have CONTROL OVER OURSELVES? and what goes on in our COMMUNITIES.
BUT WE WANT TO CONTROL THE WORLD. lol
THat's why we are quickly becoming a JOKE, if NOT ALREADY TO MOST.
INTELLIGENCE SEEMS TO ELUDE THIS GENERATION.
We brag about the fact that WHITE PEOPLE mostly buy rap.
Well hey! we didn't think ok they buy it, that means they will listen to the words.
We have HANDED THE WORD NIG*GER TO SOCIETY.
Along with WORDS THAT CONFIRM ALL THE STEREOTYPES THOUGHT OF US.
I know thinking DEEP is hard for most, but it doesn't take a ROCKET SCIENTIST.
NOW, to feel as if we are in control we want to try to DESENSITIZE THE WORD?
It WON'T WORK, because it will ALWAYS BE USED AS A TOOL, WHEN THE PERSON IS ANGERED.
Us putting it out there gives the A LICENSE, and a sense of OK'NESS with doing so.
Just like the word "HOE", I havent' heard SO MANY WHITE PEOPLE use the word in MY LIFE.
FORGET "WHORE", THEY SAY "HOE" KNOW
Thanks to BLACK AMERICA, we use the MOST DEMEANING WORDS IN THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE, THINKING IT'S OD.
I would PAY BIG MONEY, to hear someone call you a "NIG*GER" to your face and you act like it DOESN'T MATTER.
Not long ago Timberland went to Germany and got into an altercation because someone called him a "NIG*GER".
Where SO CLUELESS, AND SAD, we REALLY THINK WE CAN PLAY WITH SOCIETY, and give them DIRECTIONS ON HOW TO USE THE WORD.
AND TELL THEM WHAT TO DO? RETARDS
PLEASE
WE DO NOT THINK, WE REACT BASED ON EMOTION.
And it makes us seem UNINTELLIGENT.
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LET ME JUST END THIS BECAUSE I KNOW AS A RACE
WE HAVE OUR "HEADS UP OUR ASSES"
Here's a quote and story from JILL SCOTT, WHO WAS CALLED A NIG*GER
Explain to her HOW IT'S OK.
OPEN THE FLOODGATES WHY DON'T YOU-----
Jill Scott explains a recent incident where she was called a [EXPLETIVE] and how she handled it:
I was waiting outside for the valet to bring the car round, and these I say kids, but they must have been 25, looking wealthy, five-oclock-in-the-morning wasted. And this guys saying, Step back [EXPLETIVE], step back [EXPLETIVE]. Hes saying it like its a song, but theres nobody out there but me. I was taken aback, and I said, Excuse me?
And he said, Shut your mouth and dont say a word when a white man is talking. Continue »
Im not kidding. I started laughing, and I followed him and his cohorts through the parking lot laughing hysterically, and they became more and more uncomfortable. It was one of the best moments of outrageous laughter Ive had. To think for one moment I could possibly fit into that box I am so far from that word that it is funny. They looked so uncomfortable; I wanted to emasculate him, to make sure he was getting no nookie that night. The girls sobered up and were looking scared. It was something else - the first time in my life Ive been called that. Wow. But I enjoyed it. You must fight back; its imperative. I like the fight in me now.
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We ARE NOT A THINKING RACE
We think just because WE WANT TO CONTROL SOMETHING WE CAN.
Do we even have CONTROL OVER OURSELVES? and what goes on in our COMMUNITIES.
BUT WE WANT TO CONTROL THE WORLD. lol
THat's why we are quickly becoming a JOKE, if NOT ALREADY TO MOST.
INTELLIGENCE SEEMS TO ELUDE THIS GENERATION.
We brag about the fact that WHITE PEOPLE mostly buy rap.
Well hey! we didn't think ok they buy it, that means they will listen to the words.
We have HANDED THE WORD NIG*GER TO SOCIETY.
Along with WORDS THAT CONFIRM ALL THE STEREOTYPES THOUGHT OF US.
I know thinking DEEP is hard for most, but it doesn't take a ROCKET SCIENTIST.
NOW, to feel as if we are in control we want to try to DESENSITIZE THE WORD?
It WON'T WORK, because it will ALWAYS BE USED AS A TOOL, WHEN THE PERSON IS ANGERED.
Us putting it out there gives the A LICENSE, and a sense of OK'NESS with doing so.
Just like the word "HOE", I havent' heard SO MANY WHITE PEOPLE use the word in MY LIFE.
FORGET "WHORE", THEY SAY "HOE" KNOW
Thanks to BLACK AMERICA, we use the MOST DEMEANING WORDS IN THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE, THINKING IT'S OD.
I would PAY BIG MONEY, to hear someone call you a "NIG*GER" to your face and you act like it DOESN'T MATTER.
Not long ago Timberland went to Germany and got into an altercation because someone called him a "NIG*GER".
Where SO CLUELESS, AND SAD, we REALLY THINK WE CAN PLAY WITH SOCIETY, and give them DIRECTIONS ON HOW TO USE THE WORD.
AND TELL THEM WHAT TO DO? RETARDS
PLEASE
WE DO NOT THINK, WE REACT BASED ON EMOTION.
And it makes us seem UNINTELLIGENT.
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@ Antidumb
"We have HANDED THE WORD NIG*GER TO SOCIETY."
Actually, they gave the word to us and WE ran with it. Before, when discrimination were overt and commonplace, it was understandable why that word carried so much weight. But now, we are the ones giving the word power and continue to give it power everytime we react to it.
I liked the example that you used with Jill Scott, but I think it actually negated your point. The very fact that she laughed in their faces and confronted them was her way of saying "that word has NO power over me and I won't let it define me." More of us need to take this approach when faced with this word, instead of the usual outrage. Because at the end of the day, our getting upset and protesting only gives others more reason to say it.
I don't know about Nas, but I do agree that we need to start facing this word head on and INTELLIGENTLY. Getting upset and calling Jesse Jackson isn't going to change a thing. Their like bullies, they use the word because they know it will get a rise out of us every time. Perhaps if we did reclaim this word, examine it and really determine why we continue to let it affect us in the manner that it does, we might actually make some headway in wiping it from our vocabulary. Instead, we'll just sound the ni@@er alarms everytime to racist says it, hold a press conference and then forget about until the next bastard uses it. (I'm tired of the cycle and Al Sharpton is running out of spaces on his @$$ to kiss.)
And you know what, I have had someone call me a ni@@er and while it was disconcerting (especially because I was younger), I didn't let it scar me. My family hails from Klan Country, so none of this is new. But for me to get upset would give off the impression that 1) you're somehow right and I am a ni@@er (because I only get upset when someone touches on a truth I'm not ready to handle) and 2) that what they had to say somehow impacted my life. I don't give two phucks what someone has to SAY about me as long as you don't infringe on my way of living. Threaten my family, it's on. Bar me from equal employment, we have a problem. But resort to some antiquated racial slur that morons use because they can't think of a better way to hurt me, not my problem. Their ignorance is just that, their ignorance and I refuse to let it have any bearing on my life. |
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I tried to be nice but YOU ARE THE RETARD!!!!!
yOU JUST SAID.....
"It WON'T WORK, because it will ALWAYS BE USED AS A TOOL, WHEN THE PERSON IS ANGERED."
Nas is saying..... WE NEED TO STOP BEING ANGERED BY THIS WORD!!! IT CAN'T EFFECT US IF WE STOP EVEN GIVING IT ATTENTION. IF WE DONT GET UPSET THEN HOW CAN IT HARM US!!!! We look like bigger ass's when we get all rah rah over Imus and stupidity like that. I could care LESS if a cracka call me a ni$$a cause Im probably calling them a CRACKA like I just did! We are over emotional as a people. You have stated that. So how then do you justify being so emotionally charged about this man naming this album this when his INTENT IS CLEAR AS DAY!!!!! EMOTION GOT YOU JUDJING THIS MANS ALBUM BEFORE YOU HEARD ONE VERSE!!!!!He has a stated logic behind it but you want to push logic to the side and just say ITS A HURTFUL POWERFUL WORD SO WHY USE IT...SHAME ON HIM!!!!! You contradict yourself! it dont work just one way RETARD! If we are OVERLY emotional when white folks call us it don't you think we can be OVERLY emotional when it comes from a brother or sista? What Nas is saying is take the emotion out either way.then at least we won't be HYPOCRITICAL AND EMOTIONAL!
Look Im done fooling with you. You have your head stuck up your own self rightous ass! You act like your Bill Cosby aproach is the only viable way to get a message across and it's not. So you live on the moon and I will try to do what I can here on earth. YOU ARE NO BETTER THAN THE HOOD CATS YOU ARE ALWAYS BASHING!!!! PLEASE KNOW THIS! You act ,like you are the last enlightened blackman on the planet. ELITIST SUCKA! You said "it makes us seem uninteligent".....to who? I think Nas and his stance is very pragmatic, very, calculated, and very intelligent. I bet it's a lot of folks who see that too. Maybe they arn't the folks you deal with but we are there. PEACE BE UNTO YOU THEO!
P.S. My husband went to prison for 5 years on some street shyt. He got out ....got his degree (in accounting) and TALKS, MOVES AND THINKS JUST LIKE ANY OTHA BROTHA ON THE BLOCK! He does taxex at tax time but other than that he operates his own business and works with young men from our neighborhood. By first glance you would size him up I bet, but he is controlled, diciplined and STRONG! He works with nothing but young men nd got a following behind him so strong now I swear if he told them to help him blow up the white house they would do it. BUT hes a positive force in their life. He would not be able to reach the men he does if it wern't for his APPROACH! The fact that he works from the inside out and not shouting at them. My point.....STOP TRYING TO PAINT ALL BLACK FOLKS WITH THAT ONE BIG ASS UNCIVILIZED BRUSH STROKE. |
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@nubian hunstress....
I think we were typing the same sentiments at the same time. I clicked submit and read what you wrote and thought I blanked out and wrote it...lol |
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Nas the legend
bless lyrical assasin!
www.myspace.com/buckcherry02
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@Nubian_Huntress
@Soincere
I can see the WEAKNESS THAT IS US THROUGH YOU.
Nubian--I won't come at you HARD, because I think you truly try to THINK DEEPLY
However, what are you saying?
That someone like NAS, should start a movement in our race, where we should just SHRUG OUR SHOULDERS TO THIS WORD?
Do we think this way because we are to WEAK FOR CHANGE? IT TAKES TO MUCH ENERGY?
And if you read the JILL SCOTT story AGAIN, you will see that she was so OFFENDED, AND RAGED, that she FOLLOWED THEM, TO SCARE THEM, at the time am sure she was so shocked she didn't even know what she was doing.
Is that the type of life you seek? And the life for our people?
Because there is ABSOLUTELY POSITIVELY NO WAY, to take a NEGATIVE WORD LIKE NIG*GER AND MAKE IT POSITIVE.
It was ok between each other, but now it's FEED TO THE WORLD.
It's like taking the word "HOE" and making it a ok gesture.
I WOULDN'T APPRECIATE IT, would YOU?
DO YOU NOW, UNDERSTAND WHY WE SEEM PECULIAR TO OTHER RACES?
How do you expect men like MY FATHER to deal with this? AGAIN YOUR THINKING but NOT DEEP ENOUGH.
My father DOESN'T UNDERSTAND or CARE about HIP HOP, or NAS. He would be HURT.
You think NAS CAN LEAD HIM TO ENLIGHTENMENT?
My father struggled in his generation as did my grandfather to not FALL INTO THE NEGATIVE THAT SURROUNDS THIS WORD.
You say your OK, with being called NIG*GER, by White people.
Is that the case with EVERYONE? AGAIN NOT THINKING DEEPLY.
What has happened in CURRENT EVENTS LATELY?
Can you explain this reasoning to T.D. JAKES and other who don't look at NAS AS THEIR DISCIPLE?
THINK DEEPLY
God can do but so much, HE HAS REVEALED THE PAIN THAT COMES WITH THIS WORD? even when we don't want to feel it(JILL SCOTT)
Again, though YOU MAY WANT TO, you CANNOT WIPE OUT THE PAIN OF THIS WORD, because NAS, in our YOUNG GENERATION SAYS YOU CAN.
Is he really someone we SHOULD LISTEN TO. Have you ever seen him when he is not HIGH, which is an indication he likes to live in his OWN LITTLE WORLD.
There is BLOOD on that word, and it will never be ok for it to be used.
Sit back and close your eyes and invision yourself in different scenerios being called a NIG*GER.
I don't care what you say you won't like it.
It demeans you and MEANS SUB-HUMAN.
YOU WILL REACT JUST LIKE JILL SCOTT, and want to make SOME POINT.
Always LOOK AT THE BIG PICTURE AND WHAT IS BEST.
Even if you have your own personal FEELINGS.
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I wont even direct this at you because I know you cannot handle me! SO FOR ANYONE ELSE ON HERE WHO HAS A BRAIN .....
MY PEOPLE.....
please understand that it is not the 40's 50' and 60's. The fight our fathers fought is NOT BROUGHT THE SAME. The mentalities of our fathers is NOT THE MENTALITIES OF THES YOUNGINS TODAY!
antidumb.....BABY, THIS IS NOT YOUR FATHERS FIGHT!!!!! GET THAT THROUGH YOUR HEAD!!!! Your father did from what I can tell a good job at raising his son. I totally disagree with you on almost everything but you are strong willed and obviously have convictions that you stand upon! But if you continue to try to fight this current fight with your father in mind you will be missing the generation that needs you now who flat out don't know nor care what your father went through! We are a overly emotional people but we are also a anti progressive thinking people. Why do we KEEP hanging on to the 60's and figures from that era. If the "leader don't fit that text book "black leader" stereotype....the marches, the speeches, the oration, the holding hnds and singing songs.....we don't want to call them leaders. NAS IN HIS OWN RIGHT IS VERY MUCH A LEADER! Why is he not? If his words effect change in a segment of the population why is he not one then? So what your dad don't care about hip hop or Nas. A MILLION LIL BLACK KIDS IN INNER CITY SCHOOLS DO SO WHY NOT USE THIER OWN VEHICLE TO REACH THEM INSTEAD OF TRYING TO REINVENT THE WHEEL!!! Again you suffer from tunnel vision. You need to get out that "old negro spiritual" box you are in. Its beautiful to remember the past...but it's counterproductive to live in it!
and how do you have the audacity to tell someone HOW THEY ARE GOING TO REACT. If I said it don't effect me then it don't effect me! I am a good a grown woman.I am quite in controll over my emotions. Emotion is not an invoulentary response. People have COMPLETE AND UTTER CONTROLL OVER THEM! If I have told myself what my perception of the word is TO ME then it in turn becomes MY REALITY....not yours or anyone elses.YOU irk me more than a racist white man ever could! I swear! And Im through with you!
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antidumb....God can do but so much, HE HAS REVEALED THE PAIN THAT COMES WITH THIS WORD? even when we don't want to feel it(JILL SCOTT)
Im sorry boo.....MY god does not give me the spirit of fear, or hurt. (every other sunday...again) Sunday school 101 teaches that fear, pain, hurt, and misery are all human constructs and if you just believe in him then count ALL things joy. (not all things except the word ni$$a). I refse to believe that God gets extra irked at the word ni$$A! Get your faith right son. Words should slip off you like water off a ducks back!
Again, though YOU MAY WANT TO, you CANNOT WIPE OUT THE PAIN OF THIS WORD, because NAS, in our YOUNG GENERATION SAYS YOU CAN.
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Nas and the younger generation don't say I can. GOD tells me all things are posible through him. If he can be the doctor in the surgery room then Im sure he can help me to become oblivious to the word NI$$a!
aGAIN WE DON'T HAVE TO GO waaayyyyy back from the begining of the word. It has hurtful origins and it will ALWAYS THE TRUTH. bUT WHAT WE CAN DO IS START FROM today AND SAY NO MORE. You hurt me before with that word, you got me bent if you think I am going to react to it NOW. god bless the child thats got it's own!!!!!
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Dammit! MTO just lost the long a$$ comment I wrote. So instead of trying to recreate the moment, I'm just going to say I co-sign with everything sosincere and leave it at that. (Stupid MTO, my response was like a freaking thesis and then it just disappears!) |
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@sosincere
Oh Jesus!
My fear is that your THINKING ABOUT YOURSELF, and HOW YOU YOU YOU YOU FEEL AND WOULD FEEL.
LORDY LORDY
Let's just say I THINK TO DEEP FOR THAT.
AND END THIS.
But DO think of me when you see "Black Baby Boomers" and others amongst us NOT FEEL AS YOU DO.
AND WE MAKE HEADLINE AFTER HEADLINE.
Your MAGIC WAND, cannot MAKE THIS ALL BETTER.
Am I NOT AN EXAMPLE OF THAT?
I WILL NOT, AND DO NOT WANT TO BE CALLED A NIG*GER
Now go tell JILL SCOTT TO CALM DOWN DON'T FOLLOW PEOPLE, let it ROLL OFF HER SHOULDERS AND RELAX.
This is like COMEDY CENTRAL FOR NARROW MINDS.
I LOOK AT THE BIG PICTURE ALWAYS.
I will be DELIGHTED To see if your way WORKS.
IT WON'T
AND YOU WILL THINK OF ME.
Soemtimes NEGATIVE IS NEGATIVE, you can't SUGARCOAT IT TO MAKE IT POSITIVE.
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@ ALL THE FOLKS on here debating over antics & judgments that still exist.. After sitting here reading everyones point of views, everyone has VALID points.. I'm able to see eye to eye with both SOSINCERE & ANTIDUMB...
After snapping out of the zone I was in while reading all this, something just clicked n my head like a light bulb....
I wonder do white people sit & debate over race & argue/disrespect/ridicule/demean each other over race.. NO! They stick together.. The swallow each others point of views on their prejudices & keep it moving.. Im starting to really feel like black people are more racist towards each other..
Like SOSINCERE was saying, lets focus on the EMPOWERMENT of our people, stick together, not cut each other freakin throats over the crap. These days whites dont have to disrespect or hurtus, they sit back in shame with a grime laughing while we tear each other down on our own..
People need to grasp that we all have different point of views. Take it for what its worth, store whats important & keep it moving.. STOP FIGHTING.
I never leave comments, but I sit & read ANTIDUMBS comments & watch so many people get OVERLY offended & ANTIDUMB never admits if she/he was wrong &/or agrees to disagree.. Alot of time ANTIDUMBS knows his/her sh*t. But will not back down if someone objects... ANTIDUMB its ok, its just words.. Everyone will not understand u how ever much u try....
Be Blessed..
I refuse to sit on here & argue.. I have work to do.
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lol ive been in a zone reading all of it also i couldnt quite grasps all of antidumb's point it was almost like they were just rambling with the same words in every post but anyway sosincere i mos def feel where you are comin from its a new generation new time we dont live by the same codes no more jus like we dont wear bellbottoms anymore kids back in the day had a reason to look up to people like martin luther king and malcolm x they where fighting a war that was on the surface nowadays things are deeper in society all the old heads are dying off a new leaders must rise up i promise u that the rap artist have way more pull on the youth of today then jesse jackson or al sharpton and its not that they dont respect its jus that they cant really relate to them no1 wants to hear jesse talk no1 wants to march on washington no1 wants to have sit-ins or boycotts its a different day and we have to realize as a whole how to reach our youth i think its great the Nas is stepping jus like David Banner, Chamillionaire and even old ass Master P stepped up im glad they have seen that they are who youngsters listen to
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@ jkellz.. i agree.. sosincere is speaking the real... antidumb seems like his/her soul purpose is to make (weak/narrow minded people) feel dumb.. Not cool at all.. Its been said alot & I'll say it again "god dont like ugly".. Antidumb claims he/she is so deep, well maybe u need to come to the surface.. welcome to earth! Ur not one to jugde or ridicule.. Why dont make invest & start a star gossip magazine.. U seem pretty into other folk business.. But hey, whatever tickles ur fancy..
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Only in America!!
This phrase above may sound like I'm ignorant but I'm from the Islands.
Islanders don't go around calling each other N!**ers. Something is wrong with the American Generations today. Black Americans use to be a strong culture that many foreign cultures would look up to but this is pure ignorance. I took my time to learn about the American culture and glorifying that word is no way helping the cause and it won't change how the word was used in history. Whites will always use that word in the manner of hate for the black race. That's like taking the word "ignorant" and saying it's now cool to called ignorant, when we all know the english definition of the term. People need to wake up and realize that everything is about the dollar, not unity. |
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@Hellno
Your right you DON'T UNDERSTAND MY POST, and because they are VERY CLEAR.
Unlike your ONE LONG PARAGRAPH OF RUN ON SENTENCES.
Read it again, because I defientely will have to read yours a few times.
At the end of the day you COMPREHEND what you want to.
THAT'S WHAT I SUSPECT.
"ok my hoe"----just a term of ENDERAMENT lol
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Your SO RIGHT
See we have LOWERED OUR STANDARDS AS A RACE in this GENERATION.
And in order to COMFORT OURSELVES, and MAINTAIN OUR DIGNITY.
We must act like CERTAIN THINGS ARE OK.
IT WILL COME BACK TO BITE US MARK MY WORDS.
Martin Luther King jr., Marcus Garvey, an Malcolm X, would ABSOULETLY DIE WITNESSING THE STATE WE ARE IN.
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listen bruh you can't say what you want about my typing skills, word usage and lack of punctuation marks but i promise you that if you and i was sent to a room of 500 people and told to lead yo ass would be in the audience whispering to closed ears while i was onstage proclaiming the truths of the world grow up man we talking bout nas and leaders and you talkin foolishness and yes since you wanna use terms its Ni@@as like you that dont need power with power comes responsibility and leadership abilities and the balls to do what others wouldnt do along with the balls to say wat others won't say nas is breaking those walls down cause he is a leader dont buy the cd if you dont want it |
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jkellz.....
there is absolutly no need to even respond to antidumb. He is too in love with his own voice to see the truth. He never has anything REMOTELY constructive to say outside of calling ANIMALS AND WILD, AND IGNORANT. He definately cannot hang with logic! (you see he has yet to get back at me with a rebuttle to the double sided overemotional nature of our people in regards to the word...he tried to throw God in it and that didn't work either.) A few posts back on another topic where he was calling black peopee animals , someone asked him what does he plan to do about it and dude said he was going to write A BOOK called "black baby boomers"....lol. Waste of time. I told him I was sorry cause Bill Cosby already has the tough luv thing on lock. And he talking about Malcolm, and Marcus and they KEPT it on the streets...in the HOOD with the very people he calls animals. He talks alot but with NO SUBSTANCE. we need to not accept this...we need to rid the race of the animalistic nature that....no wonder why white folks hate us this....we are an embarassment that.....lol. HE IS A JOKE! He wouldn't even be that bad if he would just admit sometimes that others do make valid points!
But on the productive end....all this fuss over this word is counterproductive anyway. While we are arguing... STILL...over the word ni$$A it's taking me 70$ to fill my tank, the economy is worth ish, and public eduacation is a joke. BIGGER FISH TO FRY! NAS IS THE TRUTH AND IM GLAD HE IS USING HIS SHINE TO MAKE A POINT....ANY POSITIVE POINT. Nuff said. Ya'll be blesssed. |
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IT WOULD MAKE SENSE FOR HIM TO DO THAT IT MAY GIVE HIM A BETTER CHANCE AT SELLING RECORDS.
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Have someone say an anti- jewish word, some [EXPLETIVE] pops off.....the words may not mean much, the reality is some [EXPLETIVE] still exist in our communities, and I aint talking about the cool ones....
Learn our history people!!! PLEASE.....it's real in 2007 when people forget blacks still have problems.....ok, real ones, look at the jails, i bet the police say " lets jail a [EXPLETIVE]"...
so how the [EXPLETIVE] are we removed from the reality of being [EXPLETIVE] in our own country then, I wake up, and I love me, but I REALIZE that there some messe up [EXPLETIVE] still happening to PEOPLE OF COLOR AFRICAN DESCENT!!!
doesnt matter if you half black or mixed, or creole or carribean or african or whatever the [EXPLETIVE] you want to say, you got some african blood, u better recogize the game or you will be [EXPLETIVE] up and brainwashed....
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@ everyone who gave such strong views...u all seemed to have passionate opinions and most of you made valid points. it is nothing wrong with a person that want to express themselves...i say keep it up!! |
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@sosincere
Your all CONFUSED I guess I make your brain hurt.
Because you KNOW WHAT AM SAYING IS TRUE.
I can't wait to see what TRANSPIRES, and the turnout from all this.
If, and it's a BIG if NAS's album comes out.
Oh HOW WONDERFUL it will be to see A WAR ENSUE.
It will FORCE US TO SELF-REFLECT.
Society ALREADY is TIRED OF OUR TACTICS, tired of us FEEDING WORDS TO THE WORLD AND SAYING
"don't you use them" lol "you can't say that"
Your thinking about yourself, and acting as if the small communtiy of people who feel as you do, CAN LEAD THIS RACE.
This is not POSSIBLE, you CANNOT CLEANSE THE WORD
PERIOD.
NAS IS GOING TO LEAD THIS MOVEMENT. lol, unbelievably FUNNY.
Our communties are TOO WEAK, to-- one, lose focus by CONCENTRATING ON A WORD THAT SHOULD NOT BE AN ISSUE. It's OFFENSIVE PERIOD.
And two I PROMISE YOU, WE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO CONTROL THIS.
Soincere
You and those like you have a HARD task in front of you,(this is funny because you don't think)
** You will have to CONVINCE ALL BLACK PEOPLE
"Don't get offended it's just a word" lol
We sure do a good job of BANNING TOGETHER SO that should be easy for you. lol
I mentioned this to my father he looked at me like I lost my DAMN MIND, he already understands that this generation is "the lost generation"
** Your going to have to give directions to White Poeple on HOW TO USE THE WORD. lol
--Again am SURE NONE WOULD RESIST, and in the process they will MARVEL AT HOW WE WANT TO TAKE A WORD OUR ANCESTORS WERE ABUSED WITH AND MAKE IT INSIGNIFICANT and OK.
That should go over very well, the fact that THERE WILL BE NO RESPECT FOR US, won't be evident. lol
WE ARE A PECULIAR BUNCH, I TELL YOU
And while ALL THIS IS HAPPENING, I hope NAS and KELIS can be the PILLAR OF THE COMMUNTIY THAT THEY ALWAYS ARE. lol
I hope she DOESN'T GET ARRESTED for PICKING UP PROSTITUTES, and YELLING WHEN THEY REFUSE her advances.
That would be sad, put am sure people won't say "THAT'S WHO YOUR LISTENING TOO".
Let me make you laugh A LITTLE here's a video of a comedien who is PART OF THIS GENERATION, and how he feels and would DO IF SOMEONE CALLED HIM "NIG*GER"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKHtvTrEOCc&feature=related
I would love to see how you would CONVINCE HIM DIFERENT.
Just to think WONDERFUL NAS, hasn't been able to do CRAP FOR HIS BROTHERS SO FAR, but give them some music to LISTEN TO.
His POSITIVITY and IMPACT SURE IS REFLECTED IN OUR COMMUNITIES.lol
But we are giving him the LICENSE TO START SOMETHING LIKE THIS.
PATHETIC.
Nas is a WEAK BROTHER, though he means well SOMETIMES.
He's ALWAYS HIGH, and look at how JAY, has passed him in LIFE, he had to go get a job from a man who slept with the mother of his child and had to bow his head to do so.
BUT HAND HIM THE CAR AND KEYS TO DRIVE US IN ONE OF THE MOST SENSITIVE BURDENS WE HAVE ENDURED AS BLACK PEOPLE.
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OK if he really does release this album, especially in February, then self-respecting black people all across the country need to pull a Dixie Chicks burn (although that was wrong, Dixie Chicks were right!) on his album.
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Then again, that would require purchasing that garbage and I want that motherf)cker to be broke having made that CD.
It can be a symbolic burn. Ironic burning something, but oh well.
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u r so popular, what i want to say is that u r also very popular on a celebrities site sugarcupid.com. congradulations. |
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Antidumb, reading is fundamental. NO ONE said make it positive. But since you can't read between the lines, I'm not going to bash my head trying to explain any further. Continue to be the man's puppet and jump when he says jump. (Because that's what they're doing when the say the word ni@@er. They know you'll hop on up and down and give them all kinds of attention, which is what they want in the end. Notice the trend? Say ni@@a get a whole bunch of publicity, apologize, sweep it under the rug and resurrect your career stronger than it was before. Imus got a new contract and I wouldn't be shocked if Dog got a new show somewhere else. It's almost to the point that white folks who need attention know that all they have to do is drop the n-bomb. Need to boost your sagging ratings, drop the n-bomb. Want to get more listeners? Drop the n-bomb. Without thinking, you're actually ensuring their success. The more people hear about the latest ni@@er controversy, the more exposure they get. So keep up the good work, I'm certain Imus thanks you from the bottom of his heart.)
You're a prime example that black people don't think beyond the end of our noses and a prime example of how we'll never get any further in the fight. Because we're still busy fighting words, instead of ideas. We aren't saying ignore the word, we're saying confront it head on. But we all know a lot of black folks are nothing but TALK, so that won't happen. Do I use the word? No. Do I think that it should be as prolific as it is in modern society? HELL NO. I taught children who didn't know the difference between being black and being a ni@@er. They thought that sh!t was synonymous with each other. But that's just the reason why we need to actually confront this word. So that our children understand it's not cute to call one another that. And also so they understand, that while people may use it to belittle you and demean you, you are stronger than a word. Is Nas the best person to do this? Maybe not, but at least he's trying, instead of cowering in the back whimpering because someone called him a racial slur. It's a step towards actual thought and reflection. And while he may not be the best role model, he is on the youth's level. You need people who can relate to translate the struggle to the new generation. You can't do it from a top a pedestal, pointing fingers and laying blame. You've got to meet the new generation where they are and pull them up from there. Not look down your nose and tell them everything they're doing wrong.
And please stop citing your family, like you all were the only ones who dealt with the cruelty of racism. As I said, we hail from Klan country. My grandfather had them breathing down his neck, but he did not let it control him or dictate how he was giving to live his life or raise his family. When one of those redneck showed up at HIS DOOR calling him out and calling him a ni@@er, he didn't fuss and fight. He didn't scream and shout and cry about how offended he was. He simply got his rifle and told the man to get off of his property. And while he may have been angered at the man's audacity to step foot on HIS land, he didn't get caught up on the WORD. But that's just my family and we were taught that nothing a man says from his lips has power over you.
But at the same time, why aren't we attacking the IGNORANT rappers who say that crap every other word on their albums. If 50 made an album labeled "Lynch that Darkie Ni@@er and then Shake Your Ass in Da Club" folks would be flocking to buy that mess. But when someone is trying to start an honest dialog about it, when get in an uproar. You may not think Nas is the best person to do so, why not? He's in the right demographic to get the message that to the people who really need it. I don't agree with that mess about rules on how to use the word, but I do agree that we need to remove its power. But that will never happen as long as we keep lamenting and letting it control us. Maybe then, we can let it go from our language all together. |
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Maybe you should learn to explain yourself with CLARITY, that begins with BREAKING UP YOUR PARAGRAPHS.
Because HONESTLY I DID SCAN your previous post they make my eyes hurt, so sorry if I missed something.
NOW THAT I THINK ABOUT IT I WAS ADDRESSING
SOINCERE, NOT YOU, in my last post.
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You Said--Continue to be the man's puppet and jump when he says jump.
---What does that mean I think, am portraying the OPPOSITE. I have standards and this word should NOT be used. It seems as if your actually falling into being a PUPPET, by saying since people are going to use the word let's not let it GET TO US.
That's a SUBMISSIVE approach not GOOD. Look at this video which I love of how PRIDE WORKS. Richard Pryor taking a job as a JANITOR, but you WILL STILL RESPECT HIM.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=ab8_1186103822
How would you have acted? Because judging by what you've said in previous post, "YOU WOULDN'T LET IT GET TO YOU". -----PLEEEEZ.
Am not a PHYSICAL FIGHTER, but I DO SPEAK UP, I fight with my WORDS.
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And am SORRY TO BOX YOU IN A CORNER, because I know sometimes people just talk to talk, they are NOT REALLY THINKING, it just SOUNDS GOOD.
And when it comes to CELEBRITIES, they may like them for whatever reason. Like my cousin like's NAS because he's CUTE, though she would NEVER DISPUTE, that what am saying is the truth.
Using your INTELLIGENCE, what exactly or what would be an EXAMPLE OF HOW NAS WILL HELP US?
What about the word NIG*GER don't we know?
How will he ENLIGHTEN THE COMMUNITY with a whole album about the word?
It's an OFFENSIVE WORD PERIOD, what would the DISCUSSION BE about?
Just like "honky", "bit*ch", "fagg*t", "homo". They are offensive words used to DESCRIBE A GROUP OF PEOPLE.
WE ALL KNOW THAT.
SO HOW WILL NAS ENLIGTEN US? COMICAL
We are the ones that brought it MAINSTREAM by HIGHLIGHTING IT, now EVERYONE, Black baby Boomers, White people everyone has to now STOP TAKE THE TIME TO DISCUSS A WORD.
That should not be an ISSUE. It's offensive PERIOD.
SEE HOW WE ARE PAINS IN THE ASSES in this GENERATION.
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NO, NO, this is a PUBLICITY STUNT, BY A HUNGRY BROTHER WHO LOST HIS SOUL YEARS AGO. He and his wife NEED MONEY.
I know this because if he had OPTIONS, and SELF PRIDE he would have NEVER WENT TO GO WORK FOR JAY Z.
DON'T BUY INTO IT Yes he's CREATING PUIBLICITY and That's what he wants.
I WON'T BE BUYING HIS CRAP. He'll SMOKE IT UP ANYWAY. |
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First, I'm not going to attack you because I address ideas, not individuals. Let's agree to disagree and call it a day. You're definitely not going to change my mind and I don't particularly care if I change yours. I could address your points but you'd have counterpoints and we could go back and forth all day on this, and at last check neither of our jobs pay us to talk on the net. And you mentioning fighting, who's fighting? We're all free to express our opinions and others are free to disagree with them, that doesn't mean you have beef with the person. Why are you taking everything others say as a personal attack? Step back and breathe. |
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you are unbelievable.....Im am though with you. Because INSTEAD of commenting on what is laid out in fromnt of you you choose to add all kinds of othe epitaphs to back up what you say. Until you can give me a sound rebuttle to ANYPOINT I have made I am through talking with you. You are a complete waste of my time. You went RIGHT BACK AND ASKED YOUR FATHER...DIDNT WE ALREADY ADDRESS THAT THIS IS NOT ABOUT YOUR DADDY! TAKE YOUR DUMB ASS TO THE BLOCK AND ASK SOME OF THOSE KIDS...LAME! THE BATTLE DOES NOT STEM FROM YOUR PARENTS HOUSE...THERE ARE MANY AVENUES, MANY BATTLEGROUNDS, AND YOU ARE OBVIOUSLY CLUELESS TO LIFE PAST YOUR SHELTERED UPBRINGING. GROW THE F' UP MAMMAS BOY AND REALIZE THAT THERE IS A BIG BLACK WORLD OUTHERE AND IT IS GOING TO TAKE MORE THAN SOME UPITY ASS HOUSE NI$$A LIKE YOU TALKING FROM SUBURBIA(WHETHER PHYSICALLY OR FOR DAMN SURE MENTALLY) TO EFFECT SOME TYPE OF CHANGE. You know nothing except what it seems that FOX and all other media outlets feed you about your own people. Go write your corny ass book that gangstas won't read and let others deal with them. You said I don
t fight with my fists ...I fight with words. Well hows that going for you or any of us? You cited Malcolm, Martin and Marcus i one of your posts.
THEY ALL FOUGHT WITH ACTION NOT JUST WORDS! THEY MADE SPEECHES BUT THEY HIT THE PAVEMENT TO BACK IT UP.
"Your thinking about yourself, and acting as if the small communtiy of people who feel as you do, CAN LEAD THIS RACE.
This is not POSSIBLE, you CANNOT CLEANSE THE WORD"
THOSE SILLY WORD FROM YOU RIGHT THERE IS WHAT LETS ME KNOW THAT YOU ARE A CLAWN ASS HOUSE NEGRO. tHE CIVIL RIGHT MOVEMENT STARTED OUT AS small community of people. the black panthers were a small community of people. all activism starts grass roots which is a small group of people! So you believe that your book calling your sistas and brothas animals will efectively get the job done.? Ask Bill how he's doing with that? All he has done is stir up dialouge and controversy which isn't neccessarily a bad thing because it gets people talking. BUT it still fosters division and dis unity. ALL NAS IS TRYING TO DO IS STIR UP DIALOUGE WITHIN A POPULATION THAT IS NOT GIVING A RATS ASS ABOUT BILL OR HIS BOOK. Its funny how you keep on throwing that dead f'n point about we trying to dictate the usage of the word as if ANYONE ever said that! So what basis does that have in this discussion. AND since that is the premise to your whole argument I will declare this a victory...because you are so pathetic you make me lausgh...lol. I would deal with every brother in the prison population over you. ...lol. Until you can tell me ONE...ONE concrete thing you have ever doneto effect a change fall the f' back. You are like a hot breeze. Alot of breath being wasted with talk. I gaurentee Nas has effected more people than YOU EVER HAVE! Put up or shut up.
p.s...Dummy conscious music NEVER SELLS. iF HE WAS REALLY JUST TRYING TO MAKE A BUCK HE'D DO THE WHOLE SHORTY SHAKE YOUR ASS THING. HE IS DOING THE TYPE OF MUSIC HE ALWAYS....ALWAYS DOES. Do you have a copy of his last album? If not again STFU! I hate when people try to speak intelligently about something they know little about? And Bob Marley smoked weed and he was one of the greatest not just musicians but PEOPLE...ACTIVISTS in history. But house ni$$as like you draw out the negative to discredit the positive! You are truely a pawn for the white man and you don't even know it....lol Sambo! No wonder kids don't respect brothers like you! Again Martin Luther King was a Adulter.....was he not. What you got to say about that! But he wears suits and spoke beautifully and fit that mold so HE IS A TRUE LEADER!!!!! gET OUT OF HERE....YOU ARE A COMPLETE AND TOTAL LAME! No need to respond back with another one of your baseless...."YOU AND YOUR CREW WANT TO TELL WHIT PEOPLE HOW TO USE THE WORD...LOL NO WONDER WHY THEY DON'T RESPECT US!" ...drawn out paragraphs. Heard it before. White folks are going to try to hurt our feelings as long as racisnm still exsits. But I have the power like with anything else in my life to decide if it hurts me or not. Sorry you seem to think that we as a people are not strong enough to have controll over our emotions. Too bad Jill, you and your dad and anyone else have not grasped that yet. I bet my daughter has! Call her a ni$$a and she immediately says My name is N'dea and it means beauty. The same way you call her India (which is a mispronunciation of her name). She handles them the same and don't break stride doing it. She went to an all white school so best believe I had to have that talk with her at age 5! GOD BLESS THE CHILD THAT HAS IT'S OWN!
My grandmother told me long ago to never argue with fools because people cannot tell who is who! I am going to leave it at that. PEACE BE UNTO YOU REGARDLESS AND MANY BLESSINGS! |
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I find this interesting
And I've stated before I save these comments for my work, am in the process of writing a book
So let's see
YOU SAID----You went RIGHT BACK AND ASKED YOUR FATHER...DIDNT WE ALREADY ADDRESS THAT THIS IS NOT ABOUT YOUR DADDY! TAKE YOUR DUMB ASS TO THE BLOCK AND ASK SOME OF THOSE KIDS
---What exactly will I ask these kids, or better yet WHAT WOULD YOU ASK THEM? OR TELL THEM?
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YOU SAID----AND IT IS GOING TO TAKE MORE THAN SOME UPITY ASS HOUSE NI$$A LIKE YOU TALKING FROM SUBURBIA(WHETHER PHYSICALLY OR FOR DAMN SURE MENTALLY) TO EFFECT SOME TYPE OF CHANGE.
---Where did you COME TO THIS CONCLUSION?
Am from the "Boogie Down Bronx" Darling lol, this is so funny
So where did you come to the conclusion am an "UPPIDTY NEGRO" lol
I love that approach simply because what your saying is that am articulate, and I don't seem HOOD ENOUGH-----WHICH IS ACTUALLY A COMPLIMENT---THANK YOU
I get that a lot from Ghetto People
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I have CUT AND COPIED the words from your post under YOU SAID, they have not be altered or SPELL CHECKED.
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YOU SAID----Go write your corny ass book that gangstas won't read and let others deal with them.
---This is close to the truth, because my book is not for GANGSTA'S you take the ENERGY TO DEAL WITH THEM.
My book is a tool to show how the mentality of these GANGSTA'S DOES NOT WORK, it will be a tool to MAKE FUN OF STUPID MENTALITIES, and for "Black Baby Boomers, to understand how OUR MENTALITIES HAVE CHANGE. How money comes first in this GENERATION.
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YOU SAID----You are like a hot breeze. Alot of breath being wasted with talk. I gaurentee Nas has effected more people than YOU EVER HAVE! Put up or shut up.
--How EXACTLY, (because of watched his career DEGRESS not PROGRESS), has Nas been IMPACTFUL TO HIS BROTHERS.
Or does he play YO-YO depending on What audience he wants to appeal to?
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YOU SAID---- small community of people. the black panthers were a small community of people. all activism starts grass roots which is a small group of people! ]
--How did things work out with the BLACK PANTHERS?
Though I respect their sense of PRIDE
Weren't they BLINDED BY EMOTION and NOT THINKING LONG TERM AND DEEPLY, so they PERISHED?
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YOU SAID----I fight with words. Well hows that going for you or any of us? You cited Malcolm, Martin and Marcus i one of your posts.
THEY ALL FOUGHT WITH ACTION NOT JUST WORDS! THEY MADE SPEECHES BUT THEY HIT THE PAVEMENT TO BACK IT UP.
---That's just my style, SPEAK THE TRUTH, whether I give SEMINARS, and SPEECHES to the community amongst other things. These leaders did just that.
The problem with THIS GENERATION, is unlike when they where hear THERE IS NO UNITY, because MONEY IS THE DEMON THAT SEPERATES US.
Go tell you GANGSTA BROTHERS on the corner, to STOP MAKING 1,000'S everyday. lol
So in this generation you have to break down SO MUCH MORE, MENTALITIES, ESCAPISM, DENIAL, UN WILLINGNESS TO FOCUS.
Sounds like a TOUGH TASK DOESN'T IT?
In the past Black people where OPPRESSED TOGETHER, they had to fight to have BASIC RIGHTS.
NOw within the SAME NEIGHBORHOOD, like I said am from the BOOGIE DOWN, some people will succeed SOME WON'T. All because of DIFFERENT MINDSETS, AND MENTALITIES.
Taking the EASY WAY(by skipping steps) or understanding HARD WORK, and focus sets you free.
DIFFERENT BALLGAME DARLING--Where playing a WHOLE DIFFERENT GAME THAN IN THE PAST.
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YOU SAID----THOSE SILLY WORD FROM YOU RIGHT THERE IS WHAT LETS ME KNOW THAT YOU ARE A CLAWN ASS HOUSE NEGRO. tHE CIVIL RIGHT MOVEMENT STARTED OUT AS small community of people. the black
--Don't dare bring up a MOVEMENT SURROUNDED BY POSITIVITY.
You are talking about the N word, and you are so UNFOCUSED, you probably don't know what direction your going with this.
You think if you were to TRY TO ADDRESS THE N WORD, back in the CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT, people would STAND BY YOU? You have NO RIGHT, to bring such a movement up pertaining to this topic.
This is too funny, but I know am getting you to THINK, because your not.
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YOU SAID----So you believe that your book calling your sistas and brothas animals will efectively get the job done.? Ask Bill how he's doing with that? All he has done is stir up dialouge and controversy which isn't neccessarily a bad thing because it gets people talking.
---Bill seems to be doing VERY WELL, in fact HE'S HIGHLY RESPECTED.
All Nas is doing is STIRRING UP CONTROVERSY?
Doesn't my book sound CONTROVERSAL, and will have a wonderful message, to free the OPPRESSED MIND.
There is FOCUS and meaning to my book, people still don't know what the hell NAS is talking about, even so called rappers that know him, there like "hmm!, I don't know brother.
THat's because they know there is NO REAL PURPOSE, and know him as a person. THis is just like the JESUS ON THE CROSS STUNT.
By the way how did that STUNT CHANGE YOUR LIFE? and the community? lol
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YOU SAID----ALL NAS IS TRYING TO DO IS STIR UP DIALOUGE WITHIN A POPULATION THAT IS NOT GIVING A RATS ASS ABOUT BILL OR HIS BOOK.
---Have you read Bill Cosby's book? Even if you haven't give me an EXAMPLE OF WHAT MIGHT BE OFFENSIVE ABOUT IT?
Or are you SIMPLY EMBARRASSED that he brings up topics WE WANT TO KEEP HIDDEN WITHIN THE COMMUNITY? I would say that is it.
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YOU SAID----Its funny how you keep on throwing that dead f'n point about we trying to dictate the usage of the word as if ANYONE ever said that!
---So what ARE YOU SAYING EXACTLY? Because I don't think you EVEN KNOW. lol
Whay will we be discussing a word that should be of NO DISCUSSION it's OFFENSIVE PERIOD, should gay people discuss how "fa*ggot" shouldn't be a word to get offended by?
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YOU SAID----p.s...Dummy conscious music NEVER SELLS. iF HE WAS REALLY JUST TRYING TO MAKE A BUCK HE'D DO THE WHOLE SHORTY SHAKE YOUR ASS THING. HE IS DOING THE TYPE OF MUSIC HE ALWAYS....ALWAYS DOES.
---NOPE, Nas is "flim flamsy", he does things based on his mood, and how much money he would like to make.
Give me a song title let me look up the LYRICS, something am doing for my book ANYWAY, just curious. Because though my cousin loves him because HE'S SO CUTE, I've only heard the songs thhe plays on the radio.
And let me tell you sista Does he even RESPECT YOU? lol
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YOU SAID----And Bob Marley smoked weed and he was one of the greatest not just musicians but PEOPLE...ACTIVISTS in history.
---I ABSOULUTELY LOVE BOB MARLEY
He was CONSISTANT, and NEVER PUT DOWN HIS SISTERS, I love his style and he is EMBRACED BY THE WORLD, not just people looking for a STREET STORY so they don't sound ALONE and feel they have a voice in their NEGATIVITY.
THAT'S WHAT RAPPERS ARE AND DO.
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YOU SAID----You are truely a pawn for the white man and you don't even know it....lol Sambo
---Can you even explain that in DETAIL, or are you just telling yourself that to feel better?
How EXACTLY am I a PAWN, how do I work in the WHITE MAN'S FAVOR? lol
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YOU SAID----Again Martin Luther King was a Adulter.....was he not. What you got to say about that! But he wears suits and spoke beautifully and fit that mold so HE IS A TRUE LEADER!!!!! gET OUT OF HERE....YOU ARE A COMPLETE AND TOTAL LAME!
----Was he, I've heard rumors, if so WHO CARES, your DADDY MIGHT BE ONE TOO.
Does that mean he didn't LEAD THIS RACE IN A POSITIVE WAY.
Or was he a RELATIONSHIP COUNSELOR and YOUR APPALLED? lol
Did he get caught up in Negativity in the Streets, did he LEAD HIS BROTHERS TO JAIL, with STUPID MENTALITIES?
YOUR TRAILING OFF SISTER, TRAILING OFF
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YOU SAID----White folks are going to try to hurt our feelings as long as racisnm still exsits. But I have the power like with anything else in my life to decide if it hurts me or not.
---Now are you SPEAKING ABOUT YOURSELF AGAIN?
I told you that's not the QUALITIES OF A TRUE LEADER, and DEEP THINKER.
Ask MANY people how they would react if they are called the N WORD.
Does IGNORING IT make racism go away? Am confused on this one, just as CONFUSED as you seem to be.
There will ALWAYS BE RACISM, many people you encounter might be racist, that's why it's important to have BOUNDARIES, because we ALL can be IGNORANT SOMETIMES, even BLACK PEOPLE.
Could you go up to a white person and say "you HONKY" lol--Though it sounds like you would want to.
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YOU SAID---- Sorry you seem to think that we as a people are not strong enough to have controll over our emotions. Too bad Jill, you and your dad and anyone else have not grasped that yet. I bet my daughter has! Call her a ni$$a and she immediately says My name is N'dea and it means beauty.
---So EVERY OTHER BLACK PERSON, is CLUELESS, but you and your DAUGHTER and SMALL VERY VERY VERY SMALL FOLLOWING?
See let me explain this, because this is the COMPLEXITY OF THE SITUATION.
You have TRAINED your daughter to take a blindeye to being called a N, however as I stated before many people would be offended because the word has too much pain attached to it, Now do you think people should just EXCEPT IT?
At the same time I would say something SIMILAR to what your DAUGHTER would say, but I by no means want this word to become a NONCHALANT word.
It's not a word OPEN FOR DISCUSSION, there is NO DISCUSSION, just like the MANY OTHER OFFENSIVE WORDS in our Society.
No one thinks they should be discussed but Black People, DOESN'T THAT SEEM WEIRD.
And offensive word is an offensive word, PERIOD.
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So as you can see I like to communicate with a DIRECT APPROACH, if you can do the same feel free to write me back.
Don't forget these questions----you seem to have forgotten to DO SO. SARCASM
Using your INTELLIGENCE, what exactly or what would be an EXAMPLE OF HOW NAS WILL HELP US?
What about the word NIG*GER don't we know?
How will he ENLIGHTEN THE COMMUNITY with a whole album about the word?
It's an OFFENSIVE WORD PERIOD, what would the DISCUSSION BE about?
But you MUST ANSWER the direct questions I've asked you, as I've ATTACKED ALL YOUR POINTS.
THis can be FRUSTRATED, especially when you HAVEN'T THOUGHT THROUGH WHAT YOU ARE TELLING YOURSELF IS RIGHT.
And that SOINCERE is what you have done.
Feel FREE TO ASK ME POINT DIRECT QUESTIONS, THOUGH YOU CAN'T, because you haven't thought DEEPLY ENOUGH TO DO SO.
I would be HAPPY TO OBLIGE THOUGH?
You have spoken without THINKING DEEPLY.
Since I DON'T EXPECT TO HEAR FROM YOU, MY POINTS ARE TOO TIGHT.
TAKE CARE AND LEARN TO THINK DEEPLY, I do the above EXERCISE EVEN WHEN CHECKING MY OWN IDEAS.
I take out a piece of paper and say NOW DOES THIS MAKE SENSE, What's the PROS, AND CONS, what would be the OUTCOME.
DEEP THINKING IS A SKILL |
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I have REVISED AND SPELLED CHECKED THE ABOVE POST FOR CLARITY--YOUR QUOTES HAVE NOT BEEN ALTERED WITH SPELL CHECK
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@sosincere
I find this interesting
And I've stated before I save these comments for my work, am in the process of writing a book
So let's see
YOU SAID----You went RIGHT BACK AND ASKED YOUR FATHER...DIDNT WE ALREADY ADDRESS THAT THIS IS NOT ABOUT YOUR DADDY! TAKE YOUR DUMB ASS TO THE BLOCK AND ASK SOME OF THOSE KIDS
---What exactly will I ask these kids, or better yet WHAT WOULD YOU ASK THEM? OR TELL THEM?
-----
YOU SAID----AND IT IS GOING TO TAKE MORE THAN SOME UPITY ASS HOUSE NI$$A LIKE YOU TALKING FROM SUBURBIA(WHETHER PHYSICALLY OR FOR DAMN SURE MENTALLY) TO EFFECT SOME TYPE OF CHANGE.
---Where did you COME TO THIS CONCLUSION?
Am from the "Boogie Down Bronx" Darling lol, this is so funny
So where did you come to the conclusion am an "UPPIDTY NEGRO"? lol
I love that approach simply because what your saying is that am articulate, and I don't seem HOOD ENOUGH-----WHICH IS ACTUALLY A COMPLIMENT---THANK YOU
I get that a lot from Ghetto People
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YOU SAID----Go write your corny ass book that gangstas won't read and let others deal with them.
---This is close to the truth, because my book is not for GANGSTA'S you take the ENERGY TO DEAL WITH THEM.
My book is a tool to show how the mentality of these GANGSTA'S DOESNT WORK, it will be a tool to MAKE FUN OF STUPID MENTALITIES, and for "Black Baby Boomers, to understand how OUR MENTALITIES HAVE CHANGED. How money comes first in this GENERATION.
-----
YOU SAID----You are like a hot breeze. Alot of breath being wasted with talk. I gaurentee Nas has effected more people than YOU EVER HAVE! Put up or shut up.
--How EXACTLY, (because of watched his career REGRESS not PROGRESS), has Nas been IMPACTFUL TO HIS BROTHERS?
Or does he play YO-YO depending on What audience he wants to appeal to?
-----
YOU SAID---- small community of people. the black panthers were a small community of people. all activism starts grass roots which is a small group of people! ]
--How did things work out with the BLACK PANTHERS?
Though I respect their sense of PRIDE
Weren't they BLINDED BY EMOTION and NOT THINKING LONG TERM AND DEEPLY, so they PERISHED?
-----
YOU SAID----I fight with words. Well hows that going for you or any of us? You cited Malcolm, Martin and Marcus i one of your posts.
THEY ALL FOUGHT WITH ACTION NOT JUST WORDS! THEY MADE SPEECHES BUT THEY HIT THE PAVEMENT TO BACK IT UP.
---That's just my style, SPEAK THE TRUTH, whether I give SEMINARS, and SPEECHES to the community amongst other things. These past leaders did just that.
The problem with THIS GENERATION, is unlike when they where here THERE IS NO UNITY, because MONEY IS THE DEMON THAT SEPERATES US.
Go tell you GANGSTA BROTHERS on the corner, to STOP MAKING 1,000'S everyday. lol
So in this generation you have to break down SO MUCH MORE; MENTALITIES, ESCAPISM, DENIAL, UNWILLINGNESS TO FOCUS.
Sounds like a TOUGH TASK DOESN'T IT?
In the past Black people where OPPRESSED TOGETHER, they had to fight to have BASIC RIGHTS.
Now within the SAME NEIGHBORHOOD, (like I said am from the BOOGIE DOWN), some people will succeed SOME WON'T. All because of DIFFERENT MINDSETS, AND MENTALITIES.
Taking the EASY WAY (by skipping steps) or understanding HARD WORK, and focus is what separates the community and sets some free.
Its a DIFFERENT BALLGAME DARLING--Where playing a WHOLE DIFFERENT GAME THAN IN THE PAST.
-----
YOU SAID----THOSE SILLY WORD FROM YOU RIGHT THERE IS WHAT LETS ME KNOW THAT YOU ARE A CLAWN ASS HOUSE NEGRO. tHE CIVIL RIGHT MOVEMENT STARTED OUT AS small community of people. the black
--Don't dare bring up a MOVEMENT SURROUNDED BY POSITIVITY.
You are talking about the N word, and you are so UNFOCUSED, you probably don't know what direction your going with this.
You think if you were to TRY TO ADDRESS THE N WORD, back in the CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT, people would STAND BY YOU? You have NO RIGHT, to bring such a movement up pertaining to this topic.
This is too funny, but I know am getting you to THINK, because your not.
-----
YOU SAID----So you believe that your book calling your sistas and brothas animals will efectively get the job done.? Ask Bill how he's doing with that? All he has done is stir up dialouge and controversy which isn't neccessarily a bad thing because it gets people talking.
---Bill seems to be doing VERY WELL, in fact HE'S HIGHLY RESPECTED.
All Nas is doing is STIRRING UP CONTROVERSY?
Doesn't my book sound CONTROVERSAL? and will have a wonderful message, to free the OPPRESSED MIND.
There is FOCUS and meaning to my book, people still don't know what the hell NAS is talking about, even so called rappers that know him, there like "hmm!, I don't know about this brother.
That's because they know there is NO REAL PURPOSE, and know him as a person. This is just like the JESUS ON THE CROSS STUNT.
By the way how did that STUNT CHANGE YOUR LIFE? and the community? lol
-----
YOU SAID----ALL NAS IS TRYING TO DO IS STIR UP DIALOUGE WITHIN A POPULATION THAT IS NOT GIVING A RATS ASS ABOUT BILL OR HIS BOOK.
---Have you read Bill Cosby's book? Even if you haven't give me an EXAMPLE OF WHAT MIGHT BE OFFENSIVE ABOUT IT?
Or are you SIMPLY EMBARRASSED that he brings up topics WE WANT TO KEEP HIDDEN WITHIN THE COMMUNITY? I would say that is it.
-----
YOU SAID----Its funny how you keep on throwing that dead f'n point about we trying to dictate the usage of the word as if ANYONE ever said that!
---So what ARE YOU SAYING EXACTLY? Because I don't think you EVEN KNOW. lol
Why will we be discussing a word that should be of NO DISCUSSION it's OFFENSIVE PERIOD, should gay people discuss how "fa*ggot" shouldn't be a word to get offended by?
-----
YOU SAID----p.s...Dummy conscious music NEVER SELLS. iF HE WAS REALLY JUST TRYING TO MAKE A BUCK HE'D DO THE WHOLE SHORTY SHAKE YOUR ASS THING. HE IS DOING THE TYPE OF MUSIC HE ALWAYS....ALWAYS DOES.
---NOPE, Nas is "flim flamsy", he does things based on his mood, and how much money he would like to make.
Give me a song title let me look up the LYRICS, something am doing for my book ANYWAY, just curious. Because though my cousin loves him because HE'S SO CUTE, I've only heard the songs they plays on the radio.
And let me tell you sista Does he even RESPECT YOU? lol
-----
YOU SAID----And Bob Marley smoked weed and he was one of the greatest not just musicians but PEOPLE...ACTIVISTS in history.
---I ABSOULUTELY LOVE BOB MARLEY
He was CONSISTANT, and NEVER PUT DOWN HIS SISTERS, I love his style and he is EMBRACED BY THE WORLD, not just people looking for a STREET STORY so they don't feel ALONE and feel they have a voice in their NEGATIVITY.
THAT'S WHAT RAPPERS ARE AND DO, THATS WHY THEY FOCUS ON STREET CREDIABLITY.
-----
YOU SAID----You are truely a pawn for the white man and you don't even know it....lol Sambo
---Can you even explain that in DETAIL, or are you just telling yourself that to feel better?
How EXACTLY am I a PAWN, how do I work in the WHITE MAN'S FAVOR? lol
-----
YOU SAID----Again Martin Luther King was a Adulter.....was he not. What you got to say about that! But he wears suits and spoke beautifully and fit that mold so HE IS A TRUE LEADER!!!!! gET OUT OF HERE....YOU ARE A COMPLETE AND TOTAL LAME!
----Was he?
I've heard rumors, if so WHO CARES, your DADDY MIGHT BE ONE TOO.
Does that mean he didn't LEAD THIS RACE IN A POSITIVE WAY?
Or was he a RELATIONSHIP COUNSELOR and YOUR APPALLED by his HYPOCRISY? lol
Did he get caught up in Negativity in the Streets, did he LEAD HIS BROTHERS TO JAIL, with STUPID MENTALITIES?
YOURE TRAILING OFF SISTER, TRAILING OFF
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YOU SAID----White folks are going to try to hurt our feelings as long as racisnm still exsits. But I have the power like with anything else in my life to decide if it hurts me or not.
---Now are you SPEAKING ABOUT YOURSELF AGAIN?
I told you that's not the QUALITIES OF A TRUE LEADER, and DEEP THINKER.
Ask MANY people how they would react if they were called the N WORD.
Does IGNORING IT make racism go away? Am confused on this one, just as CONFUSED as you seem to be.
There will ALWAYS BE RACISM, many people you encounter might be racist, that's why it's important to have BOUNDARIES, because we ALL can be IGNORANT SOMETIMES, even BLACK PEOPLE.
Could you go up to a white person and say "you HONKY" lol--Though it sounds like you would want to.
-----
YOU SAID---- Sorry you seem to think that we as a people are not strong enough to have controll over our emotions. Too bad Jill, you and your dad and anyone else have not grasped that yet. I bet my daughter has! Call her a ni$$a and she immediately says My name is N'dea and it means beauty.
---So EVERY OTHER BLACK PERSON, is CLUELESS, but you and your DAUGHTER and the VERY SMALL VERY VERY VERY SMALL FOLLOWING YOU SEEM TO HAVE?
See let me explain this, because this is the COMPLEXITY OF THE SITUATION.
You have TRAINED your daughter to take a blindeye to being called a N, however as I stated before many people would be offended because the word has too much pain attached to it, Now do you think people should just EXCEPT IT?
At the same time I would say something SIMILAR to what your DAUGHTER would say, but I by no means want this word to become a NONCHALANT word.
What do you think the BLACK PANTHERS would think? Since you brought them up.
It's not a word OPEN FOR DISCUSSION, there is NO DISCUSSION, just like the MANY OTHER OFFENSIVE WORDS in our Society.
No one thinks they should DISCUSS OFFENSIVE WORDS but Black People, DOESN'T THAT SEEM WEIRD?
An offensive word is an offensive word, PERIOD.
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So as you can see I like to communicate with a DIRECT APPROACH, if you can do the same feel free to write me back.
Don't forget these questions----you seem to have forgotten to ANSWER THEM. SARCASM
Using your INTELLIGENCE, what exactly or what would be an EXAMPLE OF HOW NAS WILL HELP US?
What about the word NIG*GER don't we know?
How will he ENLIGHTEN THE COMMUNITY with a whole album about the word?
It's an OFFENSIVE WORD PERIOD, what would the DISCUSSION BE about?
But you MUST ANSWER the direct questions I've asked you, as I've ATTACKED ALL YOUR POINTS.
This can be FRUSTRATING, especially when you HAVEN'T THOUGHT THROUGH WHAT YOU ARE TELLING YOURSELF IS RIGHT.
And that SOINCERE is what you have done.
Feel FREE TO ASK ME POINT BLANK DIRECT QUESTIONS, THOUGH YOU CAN'T, because you haven't thought DEEPLY ENOUGH TO DO SO.
I would be HAPPY TO OBLIGE THOUGH?
You have spoken without THINKING DEEPLY.
Since I DON'T EXPECT TO HEAR FROM YOU, MY POINTS ARE TOO TIGHT.
TAKE CARE AND LEARN TO THINK DEEPLY
I do the above EXERCISE EVEN WHEN CHECKING MY OWN IDEAS.
I take out a piece of paper and say NOW DOES THIS MAKE SENSE, What's the PROS, AND CONS, what would be the OUTCOME.
DEEP THINKING IS A SKILL |
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@sosincere
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I have REVISED AND SPELLED CHECKED THE ABOVE POST FOR CLARITY--YOUR QUOTES HAVE NOT BEEN ALTERED WITH SPELL CHECK
-----
@sosincere
I find this interesting
And I've stated before I save these comments for my work, am in the process of writing a book
So let's see
YOU SAID----You went RIGHT BACK AND ASKED YOUR FATHER...DIDNT WE ALREADY ADDRESS THAT THIS IS NOT ABOUT YOUR DADDY! TAKE YOUR DUMB ASS TO THE BLOCK AND ASK SOME OF THOSE KIDS
---What exactly will I ask these kids, or better yet WHAT WOULD YOU ASK THEM? OR TELL THEM?
-----
YOU SAID----AND IT IS GOING TO TAKE MORE THAN SOME UPITY ASS HOUSE NI$$A LIKE YOU TALKING FROM SUBURBIA(WHETHER PHYSICALLY OR FOR DAMN SURE MENTALLY) TO EFFECT SOME TYPE OF CHANGE.
---Where did you COME TO THIS CONCLUSION?
Am from the "Boogie Down Bronx" Darling lol, this is so funny
So where did you come to the conclusion am an "UPPIDTY NEGRO"? lol
I love that approach simply because what your saying is that am articulate, and I don't seem HOOD ENOUGH-----WHICH IS ACTUALLY A COMPLIMENT---THANK YOU
I get that a lot from Ghetto People
-----
-----
YOU SAID----Go write your corny ass book that gangstas won't read and let others deal with them.
---This is close to the truth, because my book is not for GANGSTA'S you take the ENERGY TO DEAL WITH THEM.
My book is a tool to show how the mentality of these GANGSTA'S DOESNT WORK, it will be a tool to MAKE FUN OF STUPID MENTALITIES, and for "Black Baby Boomers, to understand how OUR MENTALITIES HAVE CHANGED. How money comes first in this GENERATION.
-----
YOU SAID----You are like a hot breeze. Alot of breath being wasted with talk. I gaurentee Nas has effected more people than YOU EVER HAVE! Put up or shut up.
--How EXACTLY, (because of watched his career REGRESS not PROGRESS), has Nas been IMPACTFUL TO HIS BROTHERS?
Or does he play YO-YO depending on What audience he wants to appeal to?
-----
YOU SAID---- small community of people. the black panthers were a small community of people. all activism starts grass roots which is a small group of people! ]
--How did things work out with the BLACK PANTHERS?
Though I respect their sense of PRIDE
Weren't they BLINDED BY EMOTION and NOT THINKING LONG TERM AND DEEPLY, so they PERISHED?
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YOU SAID----I fight with words. Well hows that going for you or any of us? You cited Malcolm, Martin and Marcus i one of your posts.
THEY ALL FOUGHT WITH ACTION NOT JUST WORDS! THEY MADE SPEECHES BUT THEY HIT THE PAVEMENT TO BACK IT UP.
---That's just my style, SPEAK THE TRUTH, whether I give SEMINARS, and SPEECHES to the community amongst other things. These past leaders did just that.
The problem with THIS GENERATION, is unlike when they where here THERE IS NO UNITY, because MONEY IS THE DEMON THAT SEPERATES US.
Go tell you GANGSTA BROTHERS on the corner, to STOP MAKING 1,000'S everyday. lol
So in this generation you have to break down SO MUCH MORE; MENTALITIES, ESCAPISM, DENIAL, UNWILLINGNESS TO FOCUS.
Sounds like a TOUGH TASK DOESN'T IT?
In the past Black people where OPPRESSED TOGETHER, they had to fight to have BASIC RIGHTS.
Now within the SAME NEIGHBORHOOD, (like I said am from the BOOGIE DOWN), some people will succeed SOME WON'T. All because of DIFFERENT MINDSETS, AND MENTALITIES.
Taking the EASY WAY (by skipping steps) or understanding HARD WORK, and focus is what separates the community and sets some free.
Its a DIFFERENT BALLGAME DARLING--Where playing a WHOLE DIFFERENT GAME THAN IN THE PAST.
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YOU SAID----THOSE SILLY WORD FROM YOU RIGHT THERE IS WHAT LETS ME KNOW THAT YOU ARE A CLAWN ASS HOUSE NEGRO. tHE CIVIL RIGHT MOVEMENT STARTED OUT AS small community of people. the black
--Don't dare bring up a MOVEMENT SURROUNDED BY POSITIVITY.
You are talking about the N word, and you are so UNFOCUSED, you probably don't know what direction your going with this.
You think if you were to TRY TO ADDRESS THE N WORD, back in the CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT, people would STAND BY YOU? You have NO RIGHT, to bring such a movement up pertaining to this topic.
This is too funny, but I know am getting you to THINK, because your not.
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YOU SAID----So you believe that your book calling your sistas and brothas animals will efectively get the job done.? Ask Bill how he's doing with that? All he has done is stir up dialouge and controversy which isn't neccessarily a bad thing because it gets people talking.
---Bill seems to be doing VERY WELL, in fact HE'S HIGHLY RESPECTED.
All Nas is doing is STIRRING UP CONTROVERSY?
Doesn't my book sound CONTROVERSAL? and will have a wonderful message, to free the OPPRESSED MIND.
There is FOCUS and meaning to my book, people still don't know what the hell NAS is talking about, even so called rappers that know him, there like "hmm!, I don't know about this brother.
That's because they know there is NO REAL PURPOSE, and know him as a person. This is just like the JESUS ON THE CROSS STUNT.
By the way how did that STUNT CHANGE YOUR LIFE? and the community? lol
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YOU SAID----ALL NAS IS TRYING TO DO IS STIR UP DIALOUGE WITHIN A POPULATION THAT IS NOT GIVING A RATS ASS ABOUT BILL OR HIS BOOK.
---Have you read Bill Cosby's book? Even if you haven't give me an EXAMPLE OF WHAT MIGHT BE OFFENSIVE ABOUT IT?
Or are you SIMPLY EMBARRASSED that he brings up topics WE WANT TO KEEP HIDDEN WITHIN THE COMMUNITY? I would say that is it.
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YOU SAID----Its funny how you keep on throwing that dead f'n point about we trying to dictate the usage of the word as if ANYONE ever said that!
---So what ARE YOU SAYING EXACTLY? Because I don't think you EVEN KNOW. lol
Why will we be discussing a word that should be of NO DISCUSSION it's OFFENSIVE PERIOD, should gay people discuss how "fa*ggot" shouldn't be a word to get offended by?
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YOU SAID----p.s...Dummy conscious music NEVER SELLS. iF HE WAS REALLY JUST TRYING TO MAKE A BUCK HE'D DO THE WHOLE SHORTY SHAKE YOUR ASS THING. HE IS DOING THE TYPE OF MUSIC HE ALWAYS....ALWAYS DOES.
---NOPE, Nas is "flim flamsy", he does things based on his mood, and how much money he would like to make.
Give me a song title let me look up the LYRICS, something am doing for my book ANYWAY, just curious. Because though my cousin loves him because HE'S SO CUTE, I've only heard the songs they plays on the radio.
And let me tell you sista Does he even RESPECT YOU? lol
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YOU SAID----And Bob Marley smoked weed and he was one of the greatest not just musicians but PEOPLE...ACTIVISTS in history.
---I ABSOULUTELY LOVE BOB MARLEY
He was CONSISTANT, and NEVER PUT DOWN HIS SISTERS, I love his style and he is EMBRACED BY THE WORLD, not just people looking for a STREET STORY so they don't feel ALONE and feel they have a voice in their NEGATIVITY.
THAT'S WHAT RAPPERS ARE AND DO, THATS WHY THEY FOCUS ON STREET CREDIABLITY.
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YOU SAID----You are truely a pawn for the white man and you don't even know it....lol Sambo
---Can you even explain that in DETAIL, or are you just telling yourself that to feel better?
How EXACTLY am I a PAWN, how do I work in the WHITE MAN'S FAVOR? lol
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YOU SAID----Again Martin Luther King was a Adulter.....was he not. What you got to say about that! But he wears suits and spoke beautifully and fit that mold so HE IS A TRUE LEADER!!!!! gET OUT OF HERE....YOU ARE A COMPLETE AND TOTAL LAME!
----Was he?
I've heard rumors, if so WHO CARES, your DADDY MIGHT BE ONE TOO.
Does that mean he didn't LEAD THIS RACE IN A POSITIVE WAY?
Or was he a RELATIONSHIP COUNSELOR and YOUR APPALLED by his HYPOCRISY? lol
Did he get caught up in Negativity in the Streets, did he LEAD HIS BROTHERS TO JAIL, with STUPID MENTALITIES?
YOURE TRAILING OFF SISTER, TRAILING OFF
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YOU SAID----White folks are going to try to hurt our feelings as long as racisnm still exsits. But I have the power like with anything else in my life to decide if it hurts me or not.
---Now are you SPEAKING ABOUT YOURSELF AGAIN?
I told you that's not the QUALITIES OF A TRUE LEADER, and DEEP THINKER.
Ask MANY people how they would react if they were called the N WORD.
Does IGNORING IT make racism go away? Am confused on this one, just as CONFUSED as you seem to be.
There will ALWAYS BE RACISM, many people you encounter might be racist, that's why it's important to have BOUNDARIES, because we ALL can be IGNORANT SOMETIMES, even BLACK PEOPLE.
Could you go up to a white person and say "you HONKY" lol--Though it sounds like you would want to.
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YOU SAID---- Sorry you seem to think that we as a people are not strong enough to have controll over our emotions. Too bad Jill, you and your dad and anyone else have not grasped that yet. I bet my daughter has! Call her a ni$$a and she immediately says My name is N'dea and it means beauty.
---So EVERY OTHER BLACK PERSON, is CLUELESS, but you and your DAUGHTER and the VERY SMALL VERY VERY VERY SMALL FOLLOWING YOU SEEM TO HAVE?
See let me explain this, because this is the COMPLEXITY OF THE SITUATION.
You have TRAINED your daughter to take a blindeye to being called a N, however as I stated before many people would be offended because the word has too much pain attached to it, Now do you think people should just EXCEPT IT?
At the same time I would say something SIMILAR to what your DAUGHTER would say, but I by no means want this word to become a NONCHALANT word.
What do you think the BLACK PANTHERS would think? Since you brought them up.
It's not a word OPEN FOR DISCUSSION, there is NO DISCUSSION, just like the MANY OTHER OFFENSIVE WORDS in our Society.
No one thinks they should DISCUSS OFFENSIVE WORDS but Black People, DOESN'T THAT SEEM WEIRD?
An offensive word is an offensive word, PERIOD.
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So as you can see I like to communicate with a DIRECT APPROACH, if you can do the same feel free to write me back.
Don't forget these questions----you seem to have forgotten to ANSWER THEM. SARCASM
Using your INTELLIGENCE, what exactly or what would be an EXAMPLE OF HOW NAS WILL HELP US?
What about the word NIG*GER don't we know?
How will he ENLIGHTEN THE COMMUNITY with a whole album about the word?
It's an OFFENSIVE WORD PERIOD, what would the DISCUSSION BE about?
But you MUST ANSWER the direct questions I've asked you, as I've ATTACKED ALL YOUR POINTS.
This can be FRUSTRATING, especially when you HAVEN'T THOUGHT THROUGH WHAT YOU ARE TELLING YOURSELF IS RIGHT.
And that SOINCERE is what you have done.
Feel FREE TO ASK ME POINT BLANK DIRECT QUESTIONS, THOUGH YOU CAN'T, because you haven't thought DEEPLY ENOUGH TO DO SO.
I would be HAPPY TO OBLIGE THOUGH?
You have spoken without THINKING DEEPLY.
Since I DON'T EXPECT TO HEAR FROM YOU, MY POINTS ARE TOO TIGHT.
TAKE CARE AND LEARN TO THINK DEEPLY
I do the above EXERCISE EVEN WHEN CHECKING MY OWN IDEAS.
I take out a piece of paper and say NOW DOES THIS MAKE SENSE, What's the PROS, AND CONS, what would be the OUTCOME.
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@ Antidumb
At some point whether you agree or not with Nas,
we as adults must move on from this word. There has been death, violence etc, attached to it.
Btu to let the people responsible for this still have tremendous power over us from the use of the word is dangerous!
It's a big joke to them and it always will be.
It represents opression now and in the past.
But now it's time to detach the pain, and power from it and show these barbarians that it is useless, childish, and that now we own the power now!
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Think DEEPLY by answering my questions and THINKING THROUGH WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO BE A REALITY.
Because IT'S UNREALISTIC.
Just because you want something to be so, doesn't mean it will be.
What race or group of people in our Society chooses to EMBRACE THE NEGATIVE WORDS ASSOCIATED WITH THEM?
NO ONE
So here we go again trudging down the road of being a GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT DESERVE NO RESPECT
It's PATHETIC, and not a GOOD REFLECTION.
From what your saying, couldn't we do that with ALL OFFENSIVE WORDS?
There Offensive for a reason.
DO THE THINKING EXERCISE AND THINK THROUGH YOUR BEING UNREALISTIC.
AND STOP BEING A SCIENCE PROJECT TO SOCIETY
We're so DESPERATE to take power back from the word, because we were DUMMIES and HIGHLIGHTED IN OUR CULTURE.
Now were going to try to make it seem ok, just to PERSERVE OUR DIGNITY.
That's pretty CLAIRVOYANT, I think most would see this.
YOu could NEVER SAY WE ARE A THINKING RACE, especially this GENERATION.
IT'S JUST NOT SO.
INVISION AND THINK ABOUT WHAT YOUR SAYING
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See I'm proactive not reactive, I don't believe in handing the enemy my power!
I'm not saying it's ok I'm just saying they'll get a bigger laugh out you crying over it than NAS naming his album that!
I know they're jealous of our swagger, and all they have is this old word that we respond to negatively!
I've never heard a black man call another one N.I.G.G.E.R.
I've heard one say N.I.G.G.A. which stands for Never Ignorant Getting Goals Accomplished
This album might spark the biggest dicussion this country this has ever had on this word.
I'll just continue to show them how a double thorough Black Man operates, beacuse I know that's what their insecure about!
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Okay, StayPoppin01 we are on the same page. Because if anyone who posted actually knows what Nasir Jones is about they know that he did not name his album [EXPLETIVE] to dis and that becuase of his poetic nature the word is used to raise awareness and to provoke thought about so many issues plaguing us (blacks) today (like all of his albums in the past) And what if he named it Money, Cars and Hoes that would be a better title. WTF!!!! It's about time a real MC steps back up to the plate and teach the ignorant peeps that people don't want to hear about how many cars, hoes or bricks you got. I respect Nas because he doesn't let the game change him and besides that how many times have all of you said [EXPLETIVE] today.....I know a million right.....hypocrites!!!!! |
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A THINKING EXERCISE--YOUR QUOTES HAVE NOT BEEN ALTERED
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You Said----See I'm proactive not reactive, I don't believe in handing the enemy my power!
----That's exactly what this RACE HAS DONE, as I've stated before, we handed the word to Society.
So now, so that we can feel as if we have a sense of DIGNITY, we want to act like the word is ok. This is where this generation can OFFICALLY be called "PAINS IN THE ASSES".
You REALISTICALLY, (not what you hope and wish) but REALISTICALLY think that our race as a whole should have to endure this? Especially, when the word is STILL BELIEVED to be a word to describe us in the MOST DEROGATORY WAY?
That's where the NOT THINKING comes into play. Because you might CONVINCE YOURSELF, that the word DOES NOT MATTER, but when it's used it will be used as a weapon of attack. And you can sit behind your computer and say it doesn't matter, but it will. Just because you want it to be DOWNPLAYED to the point where it's like calling someone a "bit*ch" this will not matter, and your BELIEF WOULD NEVER BE WELCOMED BY ALL.
So since this is not POSITIVITY we are trying to spread, this word must REMAIN in the OFFENSIVE CATEGORY.
Because in the mind of the person using the word they will take your theory and be able to use the word without BOUNDARIES, all the while knowing they are handing you the ULTIMATE WORD OF DEGRADING BLACK PEOPLE, and you could say nothing about it.
That's the TOOL YOU WANT TO GIVE SOCIETY?
Can't you see how THAT WILL COME BACK TO BITE YOU?
I PROMISE YOU, just like the Imus, the Bounty Hunter and Michael Richards situation we will want to claim where OFFENDED.
And Stunts like this will be THROWN IN OUR FACES.
Where were Black people like you when these incidents happen, did you find them offensive, because you could have made a GOOD DEFENSE FOR THEM, "there just words, they have no power".
You where like every other Black Person, and was offended, am sure.
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You said----I'm not saying it's ok I'm just saying they'll get a bigger laugh out you crying over it than NAS naming his album that!
----Our "so called" crying over it, demonstrates that we have STANDARD IN THIS RACE. It demonstrates that we DO NOT want this word to be an issue of discussion that it has blood on it and was created to DESCRIBE US AS BEING A SUBHUMAN RACE.
In fact standing by it will MAKE US SEEM LESS RESPECTABLE and bring out a "what's the big deal" attitude in others. We will NO LONGER HAVE A SET STANDARD OF BOUNDARIES. It sends a message of "ANYTHING GOES"
Take a look at this clip that I posted previously, now imagine it being real life and we have now said the word "NI*GGER is like a grain of salt. It's now similar to saying you "DUMMY", and holds no more weight than that.
How do you think he would have been treated?
Do Jews accept being called a "KIKE"? Do they think its no big deal, its just words?
So once again it comes back to BITE US, we will OFFICALLY BE THE DUMB RACE.
Already we are believed not to be particularly INTELLIGENT by many people of other races.
Its already strange to people and bad enough we call each other "NI*GGA", NO OTHER RACE, calls each other the DEROGATORY NAMES ASSOCIATED WITH THEM.
Spanish people don't call each other "SPIC".
Chinese people don't call each other "Chinks"
White people only call each other "White Trash", when they are intentionally being insulting.
SO WE ARE THREADING A THIN LINE, WE ARE ALREADY PECULIAR.
Would ANY OF THE SAID RACES ABOVE SAY IT'S OK, I don't care if someone DICUSSES OR USES THESE TERMS.
NO, THEY ARE NOT EVEN OPEN FOR DISCUSSION.
PERIOD
Leave it up to us GENIUSES, to DICUSS SOMETHING, THAT SHOULD NOT BE A TOPIC OF DISCUSSION.
No one has answered my question
What the HELL ARE WE DISCUSSING?
Unless it includes the fact that we are "DUMB ASSES" and HANDED THE WORD TO SOCIETY BY HIGHLIGHTING IT IN OUR CULTURE.
What is the DISCUSSION?
WE ARE A RACE LIKE NO OTHER AND IT'S NOT A GOOD THING. We DON'T SEEM TO POSSESS INTELLIGENCE.
It seems to be a STRUGGLE WITH THAT.
PARTICULARLY THIS GENERATION.
THIS WOULD NOT BE A DISCUSSION IN GENERATIONS PRIOR.
WE LOVE TO SEPERATE OURSELVES IN THE MOST NEGATIVE WAY.
JESUS
Link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKHtvTrEOCc&feature=related
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You Said----I know they're jealous of our swagger, and all they have is this old word that we respond to negatively!
----My BIGGEST UPSET, is when we create STUPID RATIONALITIES TO FEEL BETTER.
Who is JEALOUS OF OUR RACE IN THE STATE WE ARE IN?
NO I think besides them LAUGHING AT and enjoying us in sports and entertainment many times in a "COON" way think DAVE CHAPELL, WHO THE HELL WANTS TO EMULATE BLACK PEOPLE?
This is what gets on my nerves about this generation. WE WILL TELL AND CONVINCE OURSELVES of ANYTHING, just so that we can COMFORT OURSELVES, and hold our head up high.
Is it our COMMUNITIES and CRIME RATES, there jealous of?
They wish they could mirror our Black on Black crime statistics?
Our AIDS/HIV, STD statistics?
Is it because we are MORE ACCOMPLISHED?
Because we have a more ATTRACTIVE DEMEANOR?
What the "heck" are you talking about?, There are SO MANY problems we need to address, I think it's actually the OPPOSITE.
We like to think others DONT see our problems, because they are not DISCUSSED OPENLY, but they do, thats what makes us JOKES.
People may not speak out , because they dont want to be called RACIST, but our problems and challenges are pretty evident.
We are the race NOT TO EMULATE, unless they are dancing and using our SLANG TO BE FUNNY.
Like MODERN DAY COONS.
JESUS
THINKING IS A SKILL
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You Said----I've heard one say N.I.G.G.A. which stands for Never Ignorant Getting Goals Accomplished
----Once again "What are you talking about"?
One---Ive NEVER HEARD OF THAT, and am Black from the Boogie Down
Two--- DO WE EMULATE THAT?
Are we getting GOALS ACCOMPLISHED? Or are we the MOST UNFOCUSED RACE?
So why make up something FALSE TO MAKE YOURSELF FEEL BETTER?
It's simply a CUSHION created to FEEL OK WITH BEING IN A WEAK STATE.
An ATTEMPT TO Make a negative look positive. This is very evident and clear as day.
So how does that MIRROR STRENGTH?
This RATIONALIZING is our SPECIALITY, it takes too much energy for CHANGE, so we would rather make EXCUSES of how a NEGATIVE "is not so bad" and in fact good, or doesnt bother me.
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You Said----I'll just continue to show them how a double thorough Black Man operates, because I know that's what their insecure about!
----Number___ Excuse, and an attempt to MAKE YOURSELF FEEL BETTER, BY BELIEVING NONSENSE.
What about the state of (not only our COMMUNITIES, but Black Men) makes men of OTHER RACES INSECURE?
Their fatherhood skills?
Likeliness to seek Educational aspirations?
Their DEMONSTRATION OF STRENGTH?
All of these EXCUSES, become LAYERS. Layers that prevent SELF-REFLECTION and a real look into our WEAKNESSES, that must be address to become STRENGTHS.
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So let this WEAK BROTHER, bring it on and BAIT SOCIETY, in playing this DANGEROUS DANCE.
I actually would like something like that because we need some DRAMATIC THINGS, like this to happen so that we can see we are SIMPLY GETTING BACK THE ENERGY WE SEND OUT.
Maybe it will LESSEN Jena 6, incidents where they claim they where called DEROGATORY NAMES, and treated bad. This will TAKE AWAY ALL EXCUSES
I see am not speaking to THINKERS, particularly because NO ONE has been able to answer my questions above or explain what EXACTLY ARE WE DISCUSSING, what is our FOCUS AND INTENT.
Just the fact that one poster brought up the Black Panther party to demonstrate a MINDSET WE SHOULD HAVE, and how we should MIRROR THEIR ACTIONS, tell me she isnt a THINKER.
She's not THINKING DEEPLY, she can't even see that the Black Panther's WOULD CREATE HELL over something like this and WOULD NOT STAND BY HER.
She doesn't know the DIFFERENCE between PRIDE AND SUBMISSIVNESS
Trying to DOWNPLAY an OFFENSIVE WORD because IT'S GETTING OUT OF HAND---IS THE POSTER FOR SUBMISSIVENESS.
ANY OTHER RACE WOULD NOT DO THIS.
BUT WE ARE WEAK.
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See I know, I think DEEPER than most because I AIM TO.
Just like I told the other poster the EXERCISE I've just done I do it with MYSELF AND OWN THOUGHTS.
I think about something that I think is right, and I check the LOGIC of it, because again everything you would like to make SENSE DOESN'T, and EVERYTHING YOU WANT TO BE THE TRUTH MIGHT NOT BE.
You would have discovered that if you would have thought to ASK YOURSELF some of the questions I just did.
You would have seen that you make excuses and silly rationales for this race, and GENERATION, which means your not thinking DEEPLY.
I UNDERSTAND you want those RATIONALIZATIONS, to be true, we can work towards that, but they CURRENTLY ARE NOT TRUE.
You must FACE THAT FIRST FOR TRUE CHANGE.
DEEP THINKING IS A SKILL
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Ditto!!!
Hip hop started out to raise awareness among Blacks and Puerto Ricans in the inner city's across America.
Somewhere that concept got lost when money started being made, and people got wealthy.
That Money, Cars, Hoes concept killed the original purpose of something that started out positive!
I'll be tuned in when this album comes out, because I think some good will come out of it.
You're right, we'll always want some party records for having a good time, but for most of these rappers (not MC's) to be on the front lines has to be challenged by MC's like Nas.
This art is more than just rapping about material things that can't love or talk back to you! |
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First off, you question one of the greatest thinking product of Black Panther's Tupac Shakur.
You obviously didn't know anything about Pac's first album 2Pacalypse Now.
That where Never Ignorant Getting Goals Accomplished comes from.
Educate yourself before you speak!
I'm in network marketing where plenty of black millionaires, six figure earner's, and strong educated father's exist.
Not only that but I can introduce you to them.
I can stand behind my statement of being double thorough, can you?
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@ Antidumb
First off, you question one of the greatest thinking product of Black Panther's Tupac Shakur.
You obviously didn't know anything about Pac's first album 2Pacalypse Now.
That where Never Ignorant Getting Goals Accomplished comes from.
Educate yourself before you speak
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This man is dead, he couldn't keep himself ALIVE, and out of trouble.
I see why the Black Panthers, his mother, and him fell
Because they had the RECIPE OF LIFE????
I liked some of TUPAC'S Music, but he will tell you himself "he didn't have it together enough to LEAD ANYBODY".
Drugs and Partying lead him.
Best believe he's looking down "crying" about some of his NEGATIVE CONTRIBUTIONS.
Anybody can be clever, I can take the word "[EXPLETIVE]" and think of a word for each letter, even positive one's too.
I asked you do we LIVE BY THAT?
Tupac (God Bless him) was VERY IGNORANT, am sure he will tell you so.
In fact, he was sought of like NAS, not STRONG ENOUGH TO LEAD HIS BROTHERS, and playing YO-YO, by going from CONSIOUS MUSIC, TO PIMP STYLE MUSIC, TO VIOLENT MUSIC, then back again.
LEAVING EVERYBODY CONFUSED, and Brothers getting into EVERYTHING.
NO FOCUS WITH A FEW GOOD IDEAS.
You've answered NONE OF MY QUESTIONS, THEY REQUIRE TOO MUCH THOUGHT
IT SHOWS YOUR NOT THINKING DEEPLY.
SO TAKE CARE.
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The only reason I am responding back is due to the whole "your daddy may be one comment..... Missed the whole point completely. Even if he was like your may be also IT DONT HOLD A FLAME TO THE FACT THAT HE WAS A GREAT FATHER WHO RAISED 3 KIDS AND PUT 2 THROUGH COLLEGE! Same with Martin...who WAS an adulter...check the FBI files . Don't your Mom's got access to them...lol! And YOU are the one who seems to want to throw up negatives to discredit the positive so you proved my point yet again! So what if he do smoke weed.....and? Do that have ANYTHING TO DO WITH HIS MESSAGE? again DO YOU HAVE HIS LAST ALBUM OR NOT? If not then fall the phuck back from commenting about a man you have limited prspective on! I noticed you stayed away from the "emotion is emotion argument be iit black or white"...and went to your silly ass commentary on your book! OK OK...you are going to write this awe inspiring book....quoting the same thing Bill quoted. I don't have a problem with Bill but you make me laugh because you are a off brand copy cat with no originality and even less heart!
You asked who you should ask if not your father????? Don't you think your father has HIS GENERATION ON LOCK? You said even your father is at a loss with the present generation....so what do you hope to gain by this? How about you actually give these young brothas and sistas enough credit to know that although they are mmisguided they are powerful..believe that! If you spoke about middle america fine but you constantly try to speak on what needs to be done to help the streets and you admit you want nothing to do with them. YOU SOUND FOOLISH! YOU GET NO RESPECT LIKE THAT. And I don't care if you from "the boogie down.....lol at you trying to use the local colloquiolism to make you sound authentic.....you still have the MENTALITY of a house NEGRO. You asked how you are a pawn for the white man because you just like massa tear down your own people even the ones that OBVIOUSLY try to make a difference because they don't fit into your box. And has nothing to do with you sounding "intelligent" and less ghetto! Again house ni$$A mentality got you under the assumption that good diction and grammer equals intelligence and broken english equals ghetto! Sojourner Truth spoke very broken english and was profound! Hell David Banner at times speaks broken english and is profound. Malcolm ,and about 15 street dudes I know right now may not use the correct structure but would eat yo ass alive on some real ish.
You made a comment on Tupac and didn't even know where the quote came from. You made a comment on David Banner doing nothing and had no idea his LIFE revolves around charity work. You got a billion knocks at Nas's mentality and don't own but one album! Again...the battleground is on many different fronts. If you don't understand that you are worthless. Everybody on here is just deciding to leave you alone because they figure you are a lost cause NOT BECAUSE YOU HAVE A POINT so please don't confuse it. You keep expousing that "WE ARE WEAK" BULLSHYT. You may be waek. You for damn sure don't speak for me or my people. Only weak people even let stuff like that roll off their tongue. Again you always bringing up God. ....or trying to. ...BLACK MEN (AND WOMEN) AE THE ORIGINAL MAN. MADE IN THE IMAGE OF GOD. If I am in his image I am in no way weak. The tongue is deadlier than the sword! What you speak you are. (sunday school 101...again). Thats why I REFUSE to call my people weak REGARDLESS TO WHAT STATE WE ARE IN. SOME....HEAR THAT SOME ARE ACTING LESS THAN THE GOD WITHIN US ....but that is drastically different than being weak. I tell you all the time LAME....don't paint all my peope with that weak paint brush. I noticed YOU STILL did not name ONE...ONE thing you have ever done besides talk! Name ONE thing your talk has accomplished. YOUR talk not Bill's. So again you can respond back till you turn blue in the face..but just know any point you mae from here on out is POINTLESS to me and you will still be a lame in my eyes till you answer THAT question! And please dont make up no corney ass I'I talked to this brother and he saw the error in his ways story". I can spot them a mile away and if it were true you would have BEEN shot back at me with the scenario. The truth is you are a fake ass house ni#$a. Take it or let it alone. Like Nas said...IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT A STREET DECIPLE IS STAY THE PHUCK OUT THIS CONVERSATION. WE WILL TALK TO YOU WHEN WE GET READY!.....Toby! |
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"Anybody can be clever, I can take the word "[EXPLETIVE]" and think of a word for each letter, even positive one's too.
I asked you do we LIVE BY THAT?"
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True story ..God as my witness.....
I used to work at a community center (which is where I met my husband.) He was the mentor of a group of about 30 young men ages 12-19. I remember distinctly my husband in one of those groups w/ the men he held he hipped the dudes to that Never Ignorant Getting Goals Accomplished and they kicked it the whole session on Pac and what he was trying to say. The next week the young men showed up ON THEIR OWN AND TOGETHER with airbrushed Tshirts with Pac's slogan on it INSTEAD of some f'd up nickname and or set THAT THEY USED TO ALWAYS GET DONE. (airbrushing T shirts was popular amongst them at this time but it was most always something negative.)
They told us that they were making it a point to wear it to school so that they could educate their dudes who didn't go to the center. I swear on a REGULAR you would hear one of them checking a peer at the center for calling them a ni##a My husband worked with them same young men until they were good and grown. None are dead, none are in jail even though some did have some run in's which is reflective of the enviornment. And 8 went to college. THESE WAS STRAIGHT OFF THE BLOCK STREET DUDES! They lived within walking distance to the center and most lived in the projects which were about a block away.
My husban didn't light that spark, TUPACS WORDS DID! HE JUST HAD THE ABILITY TO REACH THEM AT THEIR LEVEL AND BRIDGE THE GAP BETWEEN WHAT DUDE WAS SAYING AND MAKING IT RELEVANT TO THIER LIFE. these dudes began to believe that they were not the ni$#@as that society believed them to be.
I know you may say 8 out of a nation is worth nothing....but ask thier parents (many of whom were NOT around, but still proud of their sons) how worthless it is. thank you PAC and my honey bunny for at least them 8. Those 8 are living by it. WHAT THE PHUCK HAVE YOU DONE SINCE YOU SO EASILY CALLING THIS MAN IGNORANT?
Pac is sooooo IGNORANT , right?
How about they teach a COLLEGE CLASS IN THE ENGLISH DEPARTMENT ON HIS POETRY AT UC BERKLEY!!!! Berkley...not youngstown state community college! Look it up if you don't believe me!
Again..Pac contributed to igniting a light in at least 30 young men I know and got critical thinkers at Berkley examining his artistry.....again what have you done to have the audacity to call this man IGNORANT?.....LOL
You calling ignorant is just as disrespectful as calling a Ni@@#a.
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This is SAD, but I can see you want an IDOL AND LEADER.
TUPAC??
See when someone IDOLIZES someone they tend to have selective MEMORY, so here is a link that confirms that Tupac was a weak "YO-YO" brother who left the community CONFUSED MORE THAN ANYTHING.
Because am sure you forgot all his assaults and his rape conviction.
http://nissan200sx.hot.lu/tupacslife
Furthermore, am not trying to bring TUPAC down in the sense that I would have NEVER BROUGHT HIM UP. Particularly when it comes to leading this race.
He was simply a TROUBLED young man that had he been reared right, in his community and family he would have been more of a Iconic success, to MANY not just guys in the street.
What disturbs me is that you TRULY BELIEVE, this man is NOT LOOKING DOWN WITH REGRET.
He feed the community a MIXED RECIPE, and it wasn't always good.
In fact he CONTRIBUTED to setting in motion one of the WORST BLACK ON BLACK crime incidents we have witnessed in Entertainment.
He didn't HESITATE to ATTACK HIS BROTHERS, instead of understanding them, he used his MUSIC AS A VEHICLE that resulted in the DEATH OF NOT ONLY HIM, but another BLACK MAN.
So you can continue to try to "TARNISH" doctor Kings legacy, a man who, NOT UNTIL HIS DEATH, (and with the DEDICATION of looking for dirt) did this ALLEGE information about his INFIDELITIES come about.
It makes you not ME, the one trying to change a POSITIVE TO A NEGATIVE.
TUPACS ACTIONS WHERE EVIDENT, throughout his life.
SEE HOW DEEP THINKING CAN GET YOU EVERY TIME.
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You Said----Hell David Banner at times speaks broken english and is profound.
----See this is when I contemplate wheter or not, am just dealing with someone who JUST WANTS TO BELIEVE WHAT THEY WANT. And get the last word.
Because I take the time to go after you point by point, WHILE YOU DON'T DO THE SAME. You NEVER answer any of the questions I pose.
SO I WONDER
Again this is a reflection that YOUR NOT A DEEP THINKER, JUST STUCK IN YOUR OWN THOUGHTS, without realizing they might not make sense.
JESUS
David Banner???? Are you kidding me, the same guy who said he HAD to help out during Katrina and put his album on delay because Al. Sharpton didn't help??
You tend to stand behind ALL THE GHETTO PEOPLE, It sounds like your Husband might have had a STREET LIFE, but that is NO EXCUSE.
Here's an interview that our "intelligent" brother DAVID BANNER did a FEW DAYS AGO.
See, when you don't think and research it always comes back to BITE YOU.
This is who is SPITTING KNOWLEDGE.
In this interview he talks about SHOOTING BROTHERS, Putting his DI*CK IN 99 HOES.....
You know what this EXCHANGE IS BECOMING FRUITLESS, BECUASE YOU DON'T THINK.
I would like to point out that more importantly he SAYS BLUNTLY
"That he DOES WHATEVER'S MAKING MONEY", "HE WANTS TO BE RICH.
So just like your CONSIOUS BROTHER NAS, this man feeds just as much POSION TO THE COMMUNTIY, as so called RIGHTEOUSNESS.
He gives BLACK MEN NO FOCUS, he feeds them CRAP, then tells them he's their solider.
aggh!
http://www.mp3.com/news/stories/10120.html
The interview is on the RIGHT HAND SIDE OF THE PAGE.
It represents what has become a TREND in our communities, to let the WEAKEST MOST GHETTO PEOPLE SPEAK, and act like they are the VOICE FOR THE BLACK COMMUNITY.
This will end, too many Positive Blacks are tired of it.
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You Said----I don't have a problem with Bill but you make me laugh because you are a off brand copy cat with no originality and even less heart!
----Hmm! sense my book hasn't come out yet and I havent' given you any chapeters to read, DOES THIS COMMENT REFLECT YOUR FRUSTRATION?
What is it based on?
AM I LOSING YOU, WE ARE WAY OFF TOPIC, BUT WHEN YOUR RIGHT YOU CAN COME AT SOMEONE FROM MANY DIRECTIONS.
I for sure don't have to make speculations about your Husband's previous lifestyle to get my point across. I've held back doing so haven't I? I caught it and understood your fiery for the Ghetto Minded, as soon as you mentioned it.
So let's stay on TOPIC OR ISSUE, if you can.
I know am a frustrating one, because I REFUSE TO THINK WITHOUT BASIS, AND THINKING.
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You Said----I noticed YOU STILL did not name ONE...ONE thing you have ever done besides talk! Name ONE thing your talk has accomplished. YOUR talk not Bill's.
----I love how you keep bringing up Bill, we are the Black People out to get our race. Lol
The truth of the matter is am pretty young am just getting the BALL ROLLING.
----After haven't set up my life for security now I can FOCUS MY ATTENTION on the reality of this race. This is based on observance and experience dealing with my race. And knowing how our MENTALITIES are driving us in the wrong direction.
I told you am writing a book, you say that's NOT SIGNIFICANT ENOUGH?
Well it will reach more people than the 8 Boys your husband reached.
You see why you don't throw stones, I didn't want to have to go there, but you FORCED ME TO.
Am sure as with most books, particularly CONTROVERSAL BOOKS, speaking engagements and appearances will follow. Though I might just prefer to write the book, and not have to take the energy to deal with that.
Because as I told you before this book is not for the GANGSTA'S AND THOSE WRAPPED IN DENIAL. That takes too much energy.
God gives everyone a different spirit, TOWARDS PROGRESS. Some are extremely hands on, some simply speak out and spread information.
Am more like a Journalist, and Reporter.
This book will not be written for the those drenched in denial and defensiveness.
No this book will primarily be to focus on GENERATION Y coming up and those who have influence in forming those minds which are still FORMATIVE.
Black Baby Boomers, Teachers, Society, Parents
Those receptive to the information.
You alone is an EXAMPLE OF TRYING TO SPEAK TO GROWN FOLKS, in denial or ESCAPISM.
I'll PASS THANK YOU.
Once the mind is FORMED THEIR IS NO PENETRATING IT.
They have skilled professionals that TACKLE THAT, and even they are stressed, think teachers.
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You Said----The truth is you are a fake ass house ni#$a.
---- What in your words is the definition of a "House Nig*ga"?
Once again saying something that you might think will sting (it doesn't) and you really don't know what your talking about YOURSELF, thats what makes it funny but reveals your weak mind.
Your just saying it because its a saying said to Black People, who dont stand behind other Black people just because, their Black.
Take out a piece of paper if you have to THINK THROUGH YOUR THOUGHTS.
Write down 5 example of a House Nig*ga and how I fit those examples. See that would have saved you from making a Stupid comment.
I can do exercises like that in my head, but a beginner should start with a PEN and PAPER.
DO THIS, SO THAT YOU ARE ALWAYS COMING FROM A POSITION OF STRENGTH, NOT JUST EMOTION.
Just a little Joke---A "House Nig*ga" wouldn't mind being called a "NIG*GER", "that's just Masta's way, it's just words" lol sounds familiar?
You will come to REALIZE THE STRENGTH OF MY MIND, I can't really be attacked all I can be considered is ANNOYING, like a parent that WONT SHUT UP, even though you know your wrong.
Like a blogger said in another post "OH LORD ANTIDUMBS ON, AM GOING TO CN".
I felt my power then, the TRUTH IS ALWAYS POWERFUL, most people run from it if they cant deal with it.
Why run from someone who says something INSIGNIFICANT?
You should easily be able to tear it down.
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You Said----Like Nas said...IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT A STREET DECIPLE IS STAY THE PHUCK OUT THIS CONVERSATION. WE WILL TALK TO YOU WHEN WE GET READY!.....Toby!
----This is what a Ghetto person would say because they do not want their THEORIES CHALLENGED BY AN INTELLECUTAL, someone who will QUESTION THEIR THEORIES.
Most thinkers and intellectuals might be ANNOYED but would not have a problem addressing a Ghetto Minded person ANYDAY.
Am the perfect example
Most of these people react based on emotion and it NEVER WORKS. That's why I respect the Black Panthers because they had pride, but their MILITANT OVERLY EMOTIONAL TACTICS, was their DOWNFALL.
You HAVE TO BE A THINKER, to REALLY MAKE IT, think of a BUSINESS PERSON, I do hair also, I could go tomorrow and lease a building throw in some furniture have a shop, all because I think "am the bomb" at styling hair..
Shouldn't I learn about the business first?
Wouldn't that result in longer term success?
You CANNOT ESCAPE THINKING, you can only set yourself apart from others in a NEGATIVE WAY.
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Well your next post, I actually answered that FIRST, so I rebutted your points, told you my mission which is SMALL TO BEGIN WITH.
You must start SOMEWHERE.
And I hope you think about who you IDOLIZE, because that seems to be your problem.
I can respect SOME OF THE THINGS someone says, but if they are SURROUNDED BY NEGATIVITY, I would NEVER ACT AS IF THEY HAVE LEADERSHIP QUALITIES.
Tupac, Biggie, and probably ANY RAPPER, that knows they have an impact on their community, if you where to ask them, they would say "I did my Brothers wrong", "I highlighted Black on Black crime", "I didn't focus on Positivity", "I played YO-YO, in order to remain a star.
"Because the Money POSSESSED ME"
TAKE CARE SOINCERE
P.S. You know who has been pretty CONSISTANT, but never gets any shine, KRS-ONE, but hes not CUTE ENOUGH and too old. Sarcasm lol
I also want to go on RECORD and say you have answered NONE, OF MY POINT BLANK QUESTIONS.
Though I have addressed ALL POINTS YOUVE MADE.
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@soincere
This is SAD, but I can see you want an IDOL AND LEADER.
TUPAC??
See when someone IDOLIZES someone they tend to have selective MEMORY, so here is a link that confirms that Tupac was a weak "YO-YO" brother who left the community CONFUSED MORE THAN ANYTHING.
Because am sure you forgot all his assaults and his rape conviction.
http://nissan200sx.hot.lu/tupacslife
Furthermore, am not trying to bring TUPAC down in the sense that I would have NEVER BROUGHT HIM UP. Particularly when it comes to leading this race.
He was simply a TROUBLED young man that had he been reared right, in his community and family he would have been more of a Iconic success, to MANY not just guys in the street.
What disturbs me is that you TRULY BELIEVE, this man is NOT LOOKING DOWN WITH REGRET.
He feed the community a MIXED RECIPE, and it wasn't always good.
In fact he CONTRIBUTED to setting in motion one of the WORST BLACK ON BLACK crime incidents we have witnessed in Entertainment.
He didn't HESITATE to ATTACK HIS BROTHERS, instead of understanding them, he used his MUSIC AS A VEHICLE that resulted in the DEATH OF NOT ONLY HIM, but another BLACK MAN.
So you can continue to try to "TARNISH" doctor Kings legacy, a man who, NOT UNTIL HIS DEATH, (and with the DEDICATION of looking for dirt) did this ALLEGE information about his INFIDELITIES come about.
It makes you not ME, the one trying to change a POSITIVE TO A NEGATIVE.
TUPACS ACTIONS WHERE EVIDENT, throughout his life.
SEE HOW DEEP THINKING CAN GET YOU EVERY TIME.
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You Said----Hell David Banner at times speaks broken english and is profound.
----See this is when I contemplate wheter or not, am just dealing with someone who JUST WANTS TO BELIEVE WHAT THEY WANT. And get the last word.
Because I take the time to go after you point by point, WHILE YOU DON'T DO THE SAME. You NEVER answer any of the questions I pose.
SO I WONDER
Again this is a reflection that YOUR NOT A DEEP THINKER, JUST STUCK IN YOUR OWN THOUGHTS, without realizing they might not make sense.
JESUS
David Banner???? Are you kidding me, the same guy who said he HAD to help out during Katrina and put his album on delay because Al. Sharpton didn't help??
You tend to stand behind ALL THE GHETTO PEOPLE, It sounds like your Husband might have had a STREET LIFE, but that is NO EXCUSE.
Here's an interview that our "intelligent" brother DAVID BANNER did a FEW DAYS AGO.
See, when you don't think and research it always comes back to BITE YOU.
This is who is SPITTING KNOWLEDGE.
In this interview he talks about SHOOTING BROTHERS, Putting his DI*CK IN 99 HOES.....
You know what this EXCHANGE IS BECOMING FRUITLESS, BECUASE YOU DON'T THINK.
I would like to point out that more importantly he SAYS BLUNTLY
"That he DOES WHATEVER'S MAKING MONEY", "HE WANTS TO BE RICH.
So just like your CONSIOUS BROTHER NAS, this man feeds just as much POSION TO THE COMMUNTIY, as so called RIGHTEOUSNESS.
He gives BLACK MEN NO FOCUS, he feeds them CRAP, then tells them he's their solider.
aggh!
http://www.mp3.com/news/stories/10120.html
The interview is on the RIGHT HAND SIDE OF THE PAGE.
It represents what has become a TREND in our communities, to let the WEAKEST MOST GHETTO PEOPLE SPEAK, and act like they are the VOICE FOR THE BLACK COMMUNITY.
This will end, too many Positive Blacks are tired of it.
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You Said----I don't have a problem with Bill but you make me laugh because you are a off brand copy cat with no originality and even less heart!
----Hmm! sense my book hasn't come out yet and I havent' given you any chapeters to read, DOES THIS COMMENT REFLECT YOUR FRUSTRATION?
What is it based on?
AM I LOSING YOU, WE ARE WAY OFF TOPIC, BUT WHEN YOUR RIGHT YOU CAN COME AT SOMEONE FROM MANY DIRECTIONS.
I for sure don't have to make speculations about your Husband's previous lifestyle to get my point across. I've held back doing so haven't I? I caught it and understood your fiery for the Ghetto Minded, as soon as you mentioned it.
So let's stay on TOPIC OR ISSUE, if you can.
I know am a frustrating one, because I REFUSE TO THINK WITHOUT BASIS, AND THINKING.
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You Said----I noticed YOU STILL did not name ONE...ONE thing you have ever done besides talk! Name ONE thing your talk has accomplished. YOUR talk not Bill's.
----I love how you keep bringing up Bill, we are the Black People out to get our race. Lol
The truth of the matter is am pretty young am just getting the BALL ROLLING.
----After haven't set up my life for security now I can FOCUS MY ATTENTION on the reality of this race. This is based on observance and experience dealing with my race. And knowing how our MENTALITIES are driving us in the wrong direction.
I told you am writing a book, you say that's NOT SIGNIFICANT ENOUGH?
Well it will reach more people than the 8 Boys your husband reached.
You see why you don't throw stones, I didn't want to have to go there, but you FORCED ME TO.
Am sure as with most books, particularly CONTROVERSAL BOOKS, speaking engagements and appearances will follow. Though I might just prefer to write the book, and not have to take the energy to deal with that.
Because as I told you before this book is not for the GANGSTA'S AND THOSE WRAPPED IN DENIAL. That takes too much energy.
God gives everyone a different spirit, TOWARDS PROGRESS. Some are extremely hands on, some simply speak out and spread information.
Am more like a Journalist, and Reporter.
This book will not be written for the those drenched in denial and defensiveness.
No this book will primarily be to focus on GENERATION Y coming up and those who have influence in forming those minds which are still FORMATIVE.
Black Baby Boomers, Teachers, Society, Parents
Those receptive to the information.
You alone is an EXAMPLE OF TRYING TO SPEAK TO GROWN FOLKS, in denial or ESCAPISM.
I'll PASS THANK YOU.
Once the mind is FORMED THEIR IS NO PENETRATING IT.
They have skilled professionals that TACKLE THAT, and even they are stressed, think teachers.
-----
You Said----The truth is you are a fake ass house ni#$a.
---- What in your words is the definition of a "House Nig*ga"?
Once again saying something that you might think will sting (it doesn't) and you really don't know what your talking about YOURSELF, thats what makes it funny but reveals your weak mind.
Your just saying it because its a saying said to Black People, who dont stand behind other Black people just because, their Black.
Take out a piece of paper if you have to THINK THROUGH YOUR THOUGHTS.
Write down 5 example of a House Nig*ga and how I fit those examples. See that would have saved you from making a Stupid comment.
I can do exercises like that in my head, but a beginner should start with a PEN and PAPER.
DO THIS, SO THAT YOU ARE ALWAYS COMING FROM A POSITION OF STRENGTH, NOT JUST EMOTION.
Just a little Joke---A "House Nig*ga" wouldn't mind being called a "NIG*GER", "that's just Masta's way, it's just words" lol sounds familiar?
You will come to REALIZE THE STRENGTH OF MY MIND, I can't really be attacked all I can be considered is ANNOYING, like a parent that WONT SHUT UP, even though you know your wrong.
Like a blogger said in another post "OH LORD ANTIDUMBS ON, AM GOING TO CN".
I felt my power then, the TRUTH IS ALWAYS POWERFUL, most people run from it if they cant deal with it.
Why run from someone who says something INSIGNIFICANT?
You should easily be able to tear it down.
-----
You Said----Like Nas said...IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT A STREET DECIPLE IS STAY THE PHUCK OUT THIS CONVERSATION. WE WILL TALK TO YOU WHEN WE GET READY!.....Toby!
----This is what a Ghetto person would say because they do not want their THEORIES CHALLENGED BY AN INTELLECUTAL, someone who will QUESTION THEIR THEORIES.
Most thinkers and intellectuals might be ANNOYED but would not have a problem addressing a Ghetto Minded person ANYDAY.
Am the perfect example
Most of these people react based on emotion and it NEVER WORKS. That's why I respect the Black Panthers because they had pride, but their MILITANT OVERLY EMOTIONAL TACTICS, was their DOWNFALL.
You HAVE TO BE A THINKER, to REALLY MAKE IT, think of a BUSINESS PERSON, I do hair also, I could go tomorrow and lease a building throw in some furniture have a shop, all because I think "am the bomb" at styling hair..
Shouldn't I learn about the business first?
Wouldn't that result in longer term success?
You CANNOT ESCAPE THINKING, you can only set yourself apart from others in a NEGATIVE WAY.
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Well your next post, I actually answered that FIRST, so I rebutted your points, told you my mission which is SMALL TO BEGIN WITH.
You must start SOMEWHERE.
And I hope you think about who you IDOLIZE, because that seems to be your problem.
I can respect SOME OF THE THINGS someone says, but if they are SURROUNDED BY NEGATIVITY, I would NEVER ACT AS IF THEY HAVE LEADERSHIP QUALITIES.
Tupac, Biggie, and probably ANY RAPPER, that knows they have an impact on their community, if you where to ask them, they would say "I did my Brothers wrong", "I highlighted Black on Black crime", "I didn't focus on Positivity", "I played YO-YO, in order to remain a star.
"Because the Money POSSESSED ME"
TAKE CARE SOINCERE
P.S. You know who has been pretty CONSISTANT, but never gets any shine, KRS-ONE, but hes not CUTE ENOUGH and too old. Sarcasm lol
I also want to go on RECORD and say you have answered NONE, OF MY POINT BLANK QUESTIONS.
Though I have addressed ALL POINTS YOUVE MADE.
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To disrespect an iconic voice, and a man that employed black people, and helped the war on poverty, and his mother, a black woman that fought for your rights
Shows how shot out your character is!
Yo white folks you'll always be a N word, stop begging for acceptance!
Yuo didnt address my concerns at all, you just told me to keep crying when I'm called a bad name like a child!
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what...youve done nothing.....STFU!...LOL
BEING YOUNG IS NO EXCUSE.
There are 18 year old millionaires!
There are 18 year old activists.
You speak from a LIMITED PERSPECTIVE is more the correct answer....lol. You can't sight ONE THING but got such a strong opinion but want to blame it on being "young"....just starting!...lol
Again....what about my doublesided overemotionl poin....still not tackled it yet!
Do you have his album or not. If you do I can justify listening to your opinion on his music. If not you talk like a Fox reel. NEVER TALK ABOUT WHAT YOU DON'T KNOW ABOUT.
Name 5 KRS songs.....recent. You know he drop a album every year.
5 REASONS WHY YOU ARE A HOUSE [EXPLETIVE]br />
1. House [EXPLETIVE] look at the "other" negros as if they are better than them in some way. You do!
2. House [EXPLETIVE] instead of trying to join forces with their brothers they adapt the massas perception of them and try to disassociate themselves completely from them....you do.
3. House [EXPLETIVE] feel as if they are the sole shining stars of the race and it is up to them to reedeem the "black" perception in the eyes of society....you do
4. House [EXPLETIVE] think the closer to white the closer to right...you do
5. House [EXPLETIVE] have a hard time seeing past their own priveledged background and instead of truely understanding the dynamics behind alot of phsycosis they get frustrated with their bretheren for almost embarassing them and in turn turn the animosity from the structure that creates the monsters to the " monsters themselves". He is ashamed that them in their blackness is reflective of him.
"God gives everyone a different spirit, TOWARDS PROGRESS. Some are extremely hands on, some simply speak out and spread information."
If you truely understand this leave Nas the phuck alone and go writ your book. From your limited knowledge base and experience. If DON'T HAVE ENOUGH EXPERIENCE TO TELL ONE THING YOU HAVE DONE TO EFFECT CHANGE THEN WHY WOULD ANYONE TAKE YOUR WORD FOR THE REMEDY FOR CHANGE. Your hypothesis is not tested even by you yet. Why don't you test your Hypothesis, get some data on if it will work and THEN WRITE YOUR BOOK youngin. Or else you amount to THEORY WITHOUT PRACTICE WHICH IS INCOMPLETE.
"You HAVE TO BE A THINKER, to REALLY MAKE IT, think of a BUSINESS PERSON, I do hair also, I could go tomorrow and lease a building throw in some furniture have a shop, all because I think "am the bomb" at styling hair..
Shouldn't I learn about the business first?
Wouldn't that result in longer term success?"
If you have never done anything to effect any type of change yet then HOW THE PHUK ARE YOU QUALIFIED TO WRITE A DAMN BOOK ON IT? What because your daddy gave you some pointers.....????
"----After haven't set up my life for security now I can FOCUS MY ATTENTION on the reality of this race. This is based on observance and experience dealing with my race. And knowing how our MENTALITIES are driving us in the wrong direction."....
observance of who????? You have said time and time again you DON'T DO THE HOOD! YOU DON'T DO HANDS ON WITH HOOD BROTHERS! So what are you observing? What the media tells you?.....again the sign of a well trained house ni@#a. YOU DON'T WRITE A BOOK FROM THE SIDELINES!
BILL, MIKE DYSON, CORNELL WEST, JAMES MCWHORTER, AMIRI BARAKA, TAVIS SMILEY, and the list goes on have all PAID THIER DUES. THEY HAVE DONE MORE THAN FORMED A DARN OPINION. They ALL OF THEM either worked in the inner city , taught in the inner city, or did philantrophy in the inner city. It dont work the way you think young one. Yes some people are hands on...yes some are writers...but NOT IN THIS CASE. This is too deep a subject to think you can expound upon in without entrentching yourself within it. HOW CAN YOU SAY HIP HOP DON'T WORK IF YOU DON'T KNOW A HELL OF ALOT ABOUT HIP HOP! You didn't even know that quote came from tupac but got such a strong opinion on hip hop!
tHERE FORE SINCE YOU HAVE NOT DINE ENOUGH CRITICAL LEGWORK YOU SHALL ONLY BE ABLE TO REGUGITATE THE IDEAS EXPRESSED BY SOMEONE ELSE. Thats called plagerism. I don't care how slick you are at changing words! The ideas remain the same.
You have done nothing....just like I thought...and you know little to nothing.
How is that for answering questions.
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@STAYPOPPIN01
I'll just accept your DWINDLING POST as a sign of defeat.
I've gone through your post word by word, and responded to ALL YOUR POINTS.
Nice chatting with you, it allows me to see what am working with.
Both you and Soincere, have choose to go WAY OFF TOPIC, in an effort to DEFLECT AWAY FROM POINTS YOU CAN'T ATTACK.
So now am off the respond to her PERSONAL ATTACKS, and FRIVIOLOUSNESS. lol
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I'll just accept your DWINDLING POST as a sign of defeat.
I've gone through your post word by word, and responded to ALL YOUR POINTS.
Nice chatting with you, it allows me to see what am working with.
Both you and Soincere, have choose to go WAY OFF TOPIC, in an effort to DEFLECT AWAY FROM POINTS YOU CAN'T ATTACK.
So now am off the respond to her PERSONAL ATTACKS, and FRIVIOLOUSNESS. lol
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@ Antidumb
I run a successful home-based business, sometimes I have to close a deal or a conference call Dwindling post LOL !!!
All of your responses are weak you're not strong enough to defeat me.
I said Tupac was a brilliant brother he wasn't my leader. It's easy to point out the faults of a public figure because he's exposed to the public.
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You went through my post and answerd my qustions.
That weak response as to why white men are jealous? You responded with "our condition"
As if because they have money they can't be insecure LOL!!!
They are mad because they are bland , all they're kids act like us, they're women still love us even in "our condition"
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You keep giving massa what he wants, and he might let you sit at the table and eat with him one day!
I know that would make youe decade, he thought enough of you to sit down and eat with you.
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I read in sincere's post you said you don't do hood brother's that let's me know that you're a white man worshiper
That's cool with me, but know this the hood makes you strong and mixed with book knowledge that's like gunpowder!
These little nerdy white boys you worship will crumble at the first sign of loosing his money or privillege, he might even kill himself, he's weak.
You might look down on us, but he looks down on you!
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@sosincere
-----Your comments have not been altered or SPELL CHECKED
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You said----what...youve done nothing.....STFU!...LOL
BEING YOUNG IS NO EXCUSE.
There are 18 year old millionaires!
There are 18 year old activists.
You speak from a LIMITED PERSPECTIVE is more the correct answer....lol. You can't sight ONE THING but got such a strong opinion but want to blame it on being "young"....just starting!...lol
----I see you have the need to get personal, I've asked you NOTHING ABOUT YOURSELF, we where debating a topic.
You know what that represents? the infamous term "fishing" and being at a lost for words.
I've notice that as your comments progressed you had to FEEL AROUND LOOKING FOR WHAT MIGHT SEEM TO BE A WEAKNESS.
This is NOT possible with me.
You can argue and bring up what you THINK I SHOULD HAVE ACCOMPLISHED BY NOW.
But is it really relevant?
God speaks to us in different ways and at different times in life, we are HIS VEHICLES, we move when he says so.
And just since your curious, and can't stay on a topic because it requires to much FACT.
Let's just say I have MANY YEARS of experience in dealing with this race in DIFFERENT CAPACITIES and in a VARIETY OF SETTINGS.
So much so AM WRITING A BOOK. lol
Together with that fact, and my keen RESEARCHING SKILLS, and articulate manner, I would say just as God has said to me "am the perfect vehicle".
So now that we have your ATTEMPTED DISCREDITING, me out the way I'll respond to the rest of your post.
Continue to keep in mind how you WENT WAY OFF TOPIC.
I know I have a background in DEBATE, and journalism but this is NOT GOOD. Though interesting.
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You Said----1. House [EXPLETIVE] look at the "other" negros as if they are better than them in some way. You do!
----When someone feels ATTACKED and they are not DEEP THINKERS, (in my case the ATTACK is just the TRUTH), this is how they sum up their feelings.
Instead of being ANALYTICAL, about the point of view the other person is trying to make, they feel as if the person thinks there better than them.
Even if I dont agree with you I would NEVER think you think your better than me.
Particularly because I dont think that would be possible, so maybe you subconsciously think am better than you.
Though I write better you should not feel that way, because this is my area of interest, so I will be stronger at it.
I do not think am better than anyone. If God came back to earth tomorrow, he would not say "ghetto people on one side "everyone else" on the other am taking everyone but the ghetto people".
No he would not say that.
You've read me wrong. I simply feel disappointment and Shame towards my generation and the mentalities and actions we have chosen to ADHERE TO. I feel ANGRY that despite our ancestors going through hell, we have decided in this race, to have an ANYTHING GOES ATTITUDE.
Since you love to bring up Bill
Just like him I speak out because I know we have more potential.
I feel that my generation is "the lost generation" which is how we are referred to, but I know with concentration we can help the next generation.
The HARSHNESS, you witness in the tone of my post simply represents the energy that is NEEDED for a wake up call.
We need more than a "tap", we need a "slap".
So again, a DEEP THINKER, would see through my comments and know this. They would understand that, why would I bother, if I didnt care.
Just like Bill, why would he bother?
Do you think he just woke up one day and said "am gonna get those Ni*ggas, I hate my race, let me make them look like a fool".
No, he sees the CONTRAST between his generation and ours, and this propelled him to speak out.
If you thought DEEPLY and wasnt so DEFENSIVE you would see this.
I speak of him because you love to refer to him, when I write my book it will NOT MIRROR his, it will be more in depth and have THINKING EXERCISES.
I will NOT JUST TALK AT PEOPLE
Just like my asking you to list 5 reasons am a "House Ni*gga" which I see your trying, so let's see.....
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You said----2. House [EXPLETIVE] instead of trying to join forces with their brothers they adapt the massas perception of them and try to disassociate themselves completely from them....you do.
----This is partly true, though adapting to the mastas perception of me is NOT ACCURATE, I go through life in a Spiritual way as we all should. I know what feels right in my life, and what will and will not work. I do not live by a BLUEPRINT, a BLUEPRINT, many Black People seem to force themselves to FOLLOW TO BE CONSIDERED BLACK.
I feel no need to do this, I understand thats OPPRESSIVE.
I fear again you spoke without thinking because what would that mean,--- "that I adapt to the masta"? Could you be specific?
What in my post indicates that?
Is it my trying to speak well, not wanting to embrace NEGATIVITY?
These are the little subtle ways that we as Black people, INSULT OURSELVES AT TIMES.
Many of us have been BRAINWASHED to think that trying to be "Proper is White.
So anything that does not MIRROR AN AGGRESSIVE APPROACH, is conforming, being "corny" or trying to act White.
Which is a travesty's within our race, and I will speak about that as well in my book.
As far as not sticking with my Brothers and Sisters, that's partly true in that I WILL NOT STAND BEHIND NEGATIVITY.
Instead it is ESSENTIAL to the productiveness of our race, and positive progression of our race TO SPEAK OUT AGAINST NEGATIVE ACTIONS.
That is simply what am doing, but I can UNDERSTAND THE RESISTANCE.
See in prior times in our race's history Black people where UNITED AND AS ONE. This is wonderful.
This WORKED, and was needed because unlike today in past times ALL BLACK PEOPLE WHERE SUBJECTED TO THE SAME CONDITIONS.
Meaning during the Civil Rights era, if the bathroom, restaurant, school, movie theatre, job said "NO BLACK PEOPLE ALLOWED", that was that.
Aside from a few
Black people where SUBJECTED TO THE SAME DESTINY and ECONOMICAL CONDITIONS. So we MIRRORED EACH OTHER and fought for our place in Society under this sad reality.
NOW, because our ancestors worked so hard and endured so much
We have a DIFFERENT SCENERIO GOING ON.
Now depending on the MENATLITY of the person 2 people can come from the SAME NEIGHBORHOOD, even if it's poverty stricken and ONE WILL MAKE IT ONE WON'T.
All because of MENATLITY AND CHOICES, our ancestors made sure they fought for our right to go to school and get an education.
Do we UTILIZE THAT? NO
We now, particularly in this generation, have a WHOLE DIFFERENT MENTALITY.
We want to SKIP STEPS IN LIFE, we want to be "rich in the hood", we want to be "bling out and flossed out", we don't care to put a focus on FAMILY.
Our Black men go around creating LITERS, and Black woman allow it.
So it brings on a TRICKLE EFFECT.
There are many areas of concern but this generation has decided that
*Education is not a focus--"it's corny"
*Immeidiate Wealth is possible "rich in the hood"
*Family is not important
*violence is the answer when your mad
*Violence is to be IDOLIZED
*Black Men abusing Black Women by EXPLOITING THEM SEXUALLY is to be admired and accepted.
These are only several things, and DESPITE our dedication to not focusing on this being rectified, when NEGATIVITY BEFALLS US, because of these problems we will take the RACE CARDS, that where used RIGHFULLY SO, from past generations and our ancestors, and convince ourselves its a Society problem
This comforts us from SELF-REFLECTION.
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You Said----3. House [EXPLETIVE] feel as if they are the sole shining stars of the race and it is up to them to reedeem the "black" perception in the eyes of society....you do
----This is a bit of a CONTRADICTION to what you said before that a "House Ni*gga" separates themselves, but I'll go with it.
This is NOT true pertaining to me. As I stated before I find enjoyment in writing and bringing FACT TO LIGHT, but I don't have the energy to be a Martin Luther King, in fact I have considered trying to keep as much anonymity as possible.
Many authors do this.
At the MOST, I would like to continue to meet Black people like myself, who believe these issues need addressing and it would be a GROUP VENTURE.
I couldn't imagine it being any other way, this is not something one can do alone.
Imagine me tackling 1,000's of people that represent you, it's just not possible.
My focus is just to SUPPLY A TOOL(my book)for others to use.
PERIOD.
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You Said----House [EXPLETIVE] think the closer to white the closer to right...you do
----Again you say these comments because you've heard them used before and out of Frustration.
What does that mean? What would be Right because its Closer to White?
Who thinks like that but Ghetto People?
Let me just say I DO NOT think White people are better than me, so how could I ever think that anything they do is right and my behaviors are wrong?
JESUS
I tell you soincere another specialty of mine is to REFLECT A COMMENT BACK ONTO SOMEONE, so that they can see how they ARE INSULTING THEMSELVES, and not thinking.
Give me an example of What is RIGHT, BECAUSE IT'S CLOSER TO WHITE?
Better yet what is ACTING WHITE?, because I believe that 's where your going with this, many Ghetto Black people say this.
JESUS
Only Black people force themselves to believe there's some HANDBOOK TO BEING BLACK, we OPPRESS and limited ourselves in thinking this.
So ENLIGHTEN ME, maybe you know what ACTING BLACK, and acting WHITE IS?
JESUS
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You Said----5. House [EXPLETIVE] have a hard time seeing past their own priveledged background and instead of truely understanding the dynamics behind alot of phsycosis they get frustrated with their bretheren for almost embarassing them and in turn turn the animosity from the structure that creates the monsters to the " monsters themselves". He is ashamed that them in their blackness is reflective of him.
----Now this is the ULTIMATE EXAMPLE that you are the one that thinks "RIGHT IS WHITE".
You have CONVINCED YOURSELF, that I am "UPPIDTY
Am confident in my position but am not UPPIDTY.
Instead of just THROWING AN INSULT BACK AT YOU, to show the real ISSUE IS YOU AND YOUR MINDSET, I will tell you a SMALL PART OF MY BACKGROUND.
This should not be of topic, but when people LOSE POINTS TO MAKE THEY START FISHING.
You told yourself "AM GOING TO COME UP WITH 5 EXAMPLES IF IT KILLS ME" lol
Get ready for this Sister because you will see why God choose me.
I was born and raised in the Bronx, and though my Mom and Dad owned our home, I lived 3 blocks AWAY FROM EDENWALD PROJECTS. Off of 233rd street in the Bronx
I went to ALL INNER-CITY SCHOOLS.
P.S. 78
JHS 142
EVANDER CHILDS HIGH SCHOOL
I learned to do my own hair which lead me to be a cosmetologist because my Mom would NOT PAY FOR ME TO HAVE my hair done every week, month, two months or even every year like some girls.
I didn't have a lot of clothes, if I wore something one day, best believe by the end of the week or DIFINETLY BY THE NEXT WEEK, I would be wearing it again.
I had to walk to and from school, or take the CITY BUS, I usually walked I like to walk, and had to walk through the PROJECTS TO GET TO MY SCHOOL.
PRIVILEGED LIFE???HA HA That's a Joke
I wasnt even close to poor, but my parents believed in me HOLDING MY OWN, I started working when I was 14 years old.
God is NO FOOL, he knew he had to work through someone who has a DEEP CONNECTION with the community but simply turned out different because of the choices and mentalities they POSSESSED.
I wouldn't be so knowledgeable and would feel like a fool if I didn't have that background.
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You Said----If you truely understand this leave Nas the phuck alone and go writ your book. From your limited knowledge base and experience. If DON'T HAVE ENOUGH EXPERIENCE TO TELL ONE THING YOU HAVE DONE TO EFFECT CHANGE THEN WHY WOULD ANYONE TAKE YOUR WORD FOR THE REMEDY FOR CHANGE. Your hypothesis is not tested even by you yet. Why don't you test your Hypothesis, get some data on if it will work and THEN WRITE YOUR BOOK youngin. Or else you amount to THEORY WITHOUT PRACTICE WHICH IS INCOMPLETE.
----Well this is an EXTENSION OF YOUR ABOVE APPROACH, I have an UNBELIVEABLE BACKGROUND of working with this race and generation and have lived in MANY AREAS, IN THE COUNTRY.
I have also WORKED IN MANY AREAS, I am VERY DIVERSE almost as DIVERSE AS THEY COME.
God made sure of that
And NAS is in the spotlight, just like when my book comes out and I possibly get to the point of notoriety, I will have to EXPLAIN MYSELF, and I will be ATTACKED BY PEOPLE LIKE YOU.
I must be prepared for this, and one of those way is to have CONCRETE IDEAS, and not just do things when the whim catches you.
Though I know NAS's music through the media and video's the only CD I have is "STILLMATIC" which I really like.
I dont have to KNOW all his music to know that using the word NI*GGER to name his album will cause a GREAT BACKLASH, particularly during our CURRENT TIMES.
Nas is SIMPLY CROSSING THE LINE with wanting to name his CD "NI*GGER", this is NOT THE RIGHT TIME IF EVER IT COULD BE.
We are at WAR in Society right now, it's like a pot boiling, why would you make it OVERFLOW.
We have just endured several incidents that indicate that due to our VILE CULTURE penetrating others, and finger pointing, Society is on the attack.
We cannot hand over the WEAPONS FOR ATTACK AT THIS TIME, in the case of this word if ever.
I took the SAME APPROACH WITH Karrine Steffans
www.karrinesteffanshoedown.blogspot.com
I created this website because she represents a "HOE", and that is a word that because it's being HIGHLIGHTED IN OUR CULTURE it's being used to ATTACK US.
YOU MUST THINK OF THESE THINGS.
Karrine's first book came out RIGHT AFTER THE IMUS SITUATION.
So basically after being SO CALLED APPALLED as a community, we ran out and brought the book of a SELF PROFESSED "HOE".
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE TO YOU?
Not only that, she was on the New York Times bestseller list for 26 weeks.
That is SHAMEFUL
Black Authors are published DAILY, they rarely make the PRESTIGOUS NEW YORK TIMES BESTSELLER LIST, but Karrine made it for 26 weeks. lol
Her latest book was on the list for 9 weeks, I like to think I lessened the number.
We never think about our image, we consider that to be conforming to the White man, this despite the fact that we make up only 12% of the population. So unless there is some BLACK CITY somewhere, run operated, and owned by Black people just like every OTHER RACE, we are judged by our actions and that dictates HOW EASILY WE PROGRESS THROUGH SOCIETY.
I tell Black people all the time this is not a war between Hispanics and Blacks, but because of the VAST number of Hispanics coming to this country we will be ABSOLETE IN NO TIME, the way were going.
I see it happening already MANY JOBS require you to be bilingual, many times its a veil to not attract Black Applicants.
It is believed that Hispanic people are hardworking, less of a problem, and isnt focused on race card pulling.
We on the other hand as we continue to ADHERE TO NEGATIVITY, and PAIN BEFALLS US, we seek to blame Society instead of SELF-REFLECTING and it makes us the race to avoid
Look at this clip of a Black WWE wrestler RAMPAGE saying that Sean Kings murder was RACIST.
He claims that 911 takes a long time to come, this may be true at times, but HERES AN EXAMPLE OF A NON THINKER.
He did not know or review the facts of the case JUST SPOKE OUT, AND WENT ON THE ATTACK.
He didnt know, or doesnt want to reflect on the fact that
The phone lines where cut
His girlfriend is white, when she was eventually able to call am sure they knew this.
He lives in a 900,000 home so its not the projects
I MEAN THE BROTHER JUST DECIDED TO SPEAK AND MAKE AN ASS OUT OF HIMSELF.
White People are feeling ATTACKED BECAUSE OF STUNTS LIKE THIS.
We cannot OPEN THE FLOODGATES TO HATRED.
http://www.[SPAM].com/2007/11/28/rampage-can-talk-white-but-is-he-right/
Make sure you read the comment area, to FEEL THE FRUSTRATION OF WHITE PEOPLE.
They ready SOINCERE, they ready to ATTACK, so do we give them the WEAPONS.
Do we stand on the WEAK FOUNDATION OUR COMMUNITIES ARE IN RIGHT NOW, thinking we can sustain an ATTACK?
NO
Because we arent the picture of strength right now it would be SO EASY FOR US TO CRUMBLE.
Take a look at this link, its about a Black Owned Advertising Agency that just lost a major CONTRACT WITH GM, not for any particular reason, they just wanted to try a new direction.
NOPE, Its a SILENT LASH OUT FROM SOCIETY.
http://www.blackvoices.com/blogs/2007/11/29/gm-kicks-black-owned-ad-agency-to-the-curb/1#c9051945
OF course am Just Saying in the comment area.
See we cant just DO ANYTHING right now, the ATTACKS are so subtle but can mean so much.
Nas coming out with this CD especially Black History Month will further frustrate Society, and their belief that we are throwing race in their face, and being attacked
THOUGH YOU MAY NOT WANT TO, YOU MUST THINK OF THESE THINGS.
You have to think of ALL ASPECTS OF THE PICTURE, not just your VISION.
Hate Crimes are on the RISE, due to White people feeling ATTACKED AND
FRUSTRATED.
Add fuel to the fire, when we are in no position to put it out.
Lets focus on strengthen ourselves so we can come from a position of power, not weakness, that can be swatted like a fly.
I mean this is not like past movements, we are not on the same page as a race, so this could never work.
And it will just be a mess, because BLACK PEOPLE, like myself and others will definitely speak out against this, and it will make us seem EVEN WEAKER. We will be fighting amongst ourselves in front of the world, but like I said before maybe thats what we need.
A SEPERATION WITHIN THE COMMUNITY FOR CHANGE.
Because the belief of the contrast between Ni*ggas and Black people will be brought up.
And DAMN IT! I know you wish it wouldnt be so, but be VISIONARY, AND THINK DEEPLY.
THIS WILL BE SOMETHING YOU CANT CONTROL
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You said----what...youve done nothing.....STFU!...LOL
BEING YOUNG IS NO EXCUSE.
There are 18 year old millionaires!
There are 18 year old activists.
You speak from a LIMITED PERSPECTIVE is more the correct answer....lol. You can't sight ONE THING but got such a strong opinion but want to blame it on being "young"....just starting!...lol
----I see you have the need to get personal, I've asked you NOTHING ABOUT YOURSELF, we where debating a topic.
You know what that represents? the infamous term "fishing" and being at a lost for words.
I've notice that as your comments progressed you had to FEEL AROUND LOOKING FOR WHAT MIGHT SEEM TO BE A WEAKNESS.
This is NOT possible with me.
You can argue and bring up what you THINK I SHOULD HAVE ACCOMPLISHED BY NOW.
But is it really relevant?
God speaks to us in different ways and at different times in life, we are HIS VEHICLES, we move when he says so.
And just since your curious, and can't stay on a topic because it requires to much FACT.
Let's just say I have MANY YEARS of experience in dealing with this race in DIFFERENT CAPACITIES and in a VARIETY OF SETTINGS.
So much so AM WRITING A BOOK. lol
Together with that fact, and my keen RESEARCHING SKILLS, and articulate manner, I would say just as God has said to me "am the perfect vehicle".
So now that we have your ATTEMPTED DISCREDITING, me out the way I'll respond to the rest of your post.
Continue to keep in mind how you WENT WAY OFF TOPIC.
I know I have a background in DEBATE, and journalism but this is NOT GOOD. Though interesting.
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You Said----1. House [EXPLETIVE] look at the "other" negros as if they are better than them in some way. You do!
----When someone feels ATTACKED and they are not DEEP THINKERS, (in my case the ATTACK is just the TRUTH), this is how they sum up their feelings.
Instead of being ANALYTICAL, about the point of view the other person is trying to make, they feel as if the person thinks there better than them.
Even if I dont agree with you I would NEVER think you think your better than me.
Particularly because I dont think that would be possible, so maybe you subconsciously think am better than you.
Though I write better you should not feel that way, because this is my area of interest, so I will be stronger at it.
I do not think am better than anyone. If God came back to earth tomorrow, he would not say "ghetto people on one side "everyone else" on the other am taking everyone but the ghetto people".
No he would not say that.
You've read me wrong. I simply feel disappointment and Shame towards my generation and the mentalities and actions we have chosen to ADHERE TO. I feel ANGRY that despite our ancestors going through hell, we have decided in this race, to have an ANYTHING GOES ATTITUDE.
Since you love to bring up Bill
Just like him I speak out because I know we have more potential.
I feel that my generation is "the lost generation" which is how we are referred to, but I know with concentration we can help the next generation.
The HARSHNESS, you witness in the tone of my post simply represents the energy that is NEEDED for a wake up call.
We need more than a "tap", we need a "slap".
So again, a DEEP THINKER, would see through my comments and know this. They would understand that, why would I bother, if I didnt care.
Just like Bill, why would he bother?
Do you think he just woke up one day and said "am gonna get those Ni*ggas, I hate my race, let me make them look like a fool".
No, he sees the CONTRAST between his generation and ours, and this propelled him to speak out.
If you thought DEEPLY and wasnt so DEFENSIVE you would see this.
I speak of him because you love to refer to him, when I write my book it will NOT MIRROR his, it will be more in depth and have THINKING EXERCISES.
I will NOT JUST TALK AT PEOPLE
Just like my asking you to list 5 reasons am a "House Ni*gga" which I see your trying, so let's see.....
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You said----2. House [EXPLETIVE] instead of trying to join forces with their brothers they adapt the massas perception of them and try to disassociate themselves completely from them....you do.
----This is partly true, though adapting to the mastas perception of me is NOT ACCURATE, I go through life in a Spiritual way as we all should. I know what feels right in my life, and what will and will not work. I do not live by a BLUEPRINT, a BLUEPRINT, many Black People seem to force themselves to FOLLOW TO BE CONSIDERED BLACK.
I feel no need to do this, I understand thats OPPRESSIVE.
I fear again you spoke without thinking because what would that mean,--- "that I adapt to the masta"? Could you be specific?
What in my post indicates that?
Is it my trying to speak well, not wanting to embrace NEGATIVITY?
These are the little subtle ways that we as Black people, INSULT OURSELVES AT TIMES.
Many of us have been BRAINWASHED to think that trying to be "Proper is White.
So anything that does not MIRROR AN AGGRESSIVE APPROACH, is conforming, being "corny" or trying to act White.
Which is a travesty's within our race, and I will speak about that as well in my book.
As far as not sticking with my Brothers and Sisters, that's partly true in that I WILL NOT STAND BEHIND NEGATIVITY.
Instead it is ESSENTIAL to the productiveness of our race, and positive progression of our race TO SPEAK OUT AGAINST NEGATIVE ACTIONS.
That is simply what am doing, but I can UNDERSTAND THE RESISTANCE.
See in prior times in our race's history Black people where UNITED AND AS ONE. This is wonderful.
This WORKED, and was needed because unlike today in past times ALL BLACK PEOPLE WHERE SUBJECTED TO THE SAME CONDITIONS.
Meaning during the Civil Rights era, if the bathroom, restaurant, school, movie theatre, job said "NO BLACK PEOPLE ALLOWED", that was that.
Aside from a few
Black people where SUBJECTED TO THE SAME DESTINY and ECONOMICAL CONDITIONS. So we MIRRORED EACH OTHER and fought for our place in Society under this sad reality.
NOW, because our ancestors worked so hard and endured so much
We have a DIFFERENT SCENERIO GOING ON.
Now depending on the MENATLITY of the person 2 people can come from the SAME NEIGHBORHOOD, even if it's poverty stricken and ONE WILL MAKE IT ONE WON'T.
All because of MENATLITY AND CHOICES, our ancestors made sure they fought for our right to go to school and get an education.
Do we UTILIZE THAT? NO
We now, particularly in this generation, have a WHOLE DIFFERENT MENTALITY.
We want to SKIP STEPS IN LIFE, we want to be "rich in the hood", we want to be "bling out and flossed out", we don't care to put a focus on FAMILY.
Our Black men go around creating LITERS, and Black woman allow it.
So it brings on a TRICKLE EFFECT.
There are many areas of concern but this generation has decided that
*Education is not a focus--"it's corny"
*Immeidiate Wealth is possible "rich in the hood"
*Family is not important
*violence is the answer when your mad
*Violence is to be IDOLIZED
*Black Men abusing Black Women by EXPLOITING THEM SEXUALLY is to be admired and accepted.
These are only several things, and DESPITE our dedication to not focusing on this being rectified, when NEGATIVITY BEFALLS US, because of these problems we will take the RACE CARDS, that where used RIGHFULLY SO, from past generations and our ancestors, and convince ourselves its a Society problem
This comforts us from SELF-REFLECTION.
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You Said----3. House [EXPLETIVE] feel as if they are the sole shining stars of the race and it is up to them to reedeem the "black" perception in the eyes of society....you do
----This is a bit of a CONTRADICTION to what you said before that a "House Ni*gga" separates themselves, but I'll go with it.
This is NOT true pertaining to me. As I stated before I find enjoyment in writing and bringing FACT TO LIGHT, but I don't have the energy to be a Martin Luther King, in fact I have considered trying to keep as much anonymity as possible.
Many authors do this.
At the MOST, I would like to continue to meet Black people like myself, who believe these issues need addressing and it would be a GROUP VENTURE.
I couldn't imagine it being any other way, this is not something one can do alone.
Imagine me tackling 1,000's of people that represent you, it's just not possible.
My focus is just to SUPPLY A TOOL(my book)for others to use.
PERIOD.
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You Said----House [EXPLETIVE] think the closer to white the closer to right...you do
----Again you say these comments because you've heard them used before and out of Frustration.
What does that mean? What would be Right because its Closer to White?
Who thinks like that but Ghetto People?
Let me just say I DO NOT think White people are better than me, so how could I ever think that anything they do is right and my behaviors are wrong?
JESUS
I tell you soincere another specialty of mine is to REFLECT A COMMENT BACK ONTO SOMEONE, so that they can see how they ARE INSULTING THEMSELVES, and not thinking.
Give me an example of What is RIGHT, BECAUSE IT'S CLOSER TO WHITE?
Better yet what is ACTING WHITE?, because I believe that 's where your going with this, many Ghetto Black people say this.
JESUS
Only Black people force themselves to believe there's some HANDBOOK TO BEING BLACK, we OPPRESS and limited ourselves in thinking this.
So ENLIGHTEN ME, maybe you know what ACTING BLACK, and acting WHITE IS?
JESUS
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You Said----5. House [EXPLETIVE] have a hard time seeing past their own priveledged background and instead of truely understanding the dynamics behind alot of phsycosis they get frustrated with their bretheren for almost embarassing them and in turn turn the animosity from the structure that creates the monsters to the " monsters themselves". He is ashamed that them in their blackness is reflective of him.
----Now this is the ULTIMATE EXAMPLE that you are the one that thinks "RIGHT IS WHITE".
You have CONVINCED YOURSELF, that I am "UPPIDTY
Am confident in my position but am not UPPIDTY.
Instead of just THROWING AN INSULT BACK AT YOU, to show the real ISSUE IS YOU AND YOUR MINDSET, I will tell you a SMALL PART OF MY BACKGROUND.
This should not be of topic, but when people LOSE POINTS TO MAKE THEY START FISHING.
You told yourself "AM GOING TO COME UP WITH 5 EXAMPLES IF IT KILLS ME" lol
Get ready for this Sister because you will see why God choose me.
I was born and raised in the Bronx, and though my Mom and Dad owned our home, I lived 3 blocks AWAY FROM EDENWALD PROJECTS. Off of 233rd street in the Bronx
I went to ALL INNER-CITY SCHOOLS.
P.S. 78
JHS 142
EVANDER CHILDS HIGH SCHOOL
I learned to do my own hair which lead me to be a cosmetologist because my Mom would NOT PAY FOR ME TO HAVE my hair done every week, month, two months or even every year like some girls.
I didn't have a lot of clothes, if I wore something one day, best believe by the end of the week or DIFINETLY BY THE NEXT WEEK, I would be wearing it again.
I had to walk to and from school, or take the CITY BUS, I usually walked I like to walk, and had to walk through the PROJECTS TO GET TO MY SCHOOL.
PRIVILEGED LIFE???HA HA That's a Joke
I wasnt even close to poor, but my parents believed in me HOLDING MY OWN, I started working when I was 14 years old.
God is NO FOOL, he knew he had to work through someone who has a DEEP CONNECTION with the community but simply turned out different because of the choices and mentalities they POSSESSED.
I wouldn't be so knowledgeable and would feel like a fool if I didn't have that background.
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You Said----If you truely understand this leave Nas the phuck alone and go writ your book. From your limited knowledge base and experience. If DON'T HAVE ENOUGH EXPERIENCE TO TELL ONE THING YOU HAVE DONE TO EFFECT CHANGE THEN WHY WOULD ANYONE TAKE YOUR WORD FOR THE REMEDY FOR CHANGE. Your hypothesis is not tested even by you yet. Why don't you test your Hypothesis, get some data on if it will work and THEN WRITE YOUR BOOK youngin. Or else you amount to THEORY WITHOUT PRACTICE WHICH IS INCOMPLETE.
----Well this is an EXTENSION OF YOUR ABOVE APPROACH, I have an UNBELIVEABLE BACKGROUND of working with this race and generation and have lived in MANY AREAS, IN THE COUNTRY.
I have also WORKED IN MANY AREAS, I am VERY DIVERSE almost as DIVERSE AS THEY COME.
God made sure of that
And NAS is in the spotlight, just like when my book comes out and I possibly get to the point of notoriety, I will have to EXPLAIN MYSELF, and I will be ATTACKED BY PEOPLE LIKE YOU.
I must be prepared for this, and one of those way is to have CONCRETE IDEAS, and not just do things when the whim catches you.
Though I know NAS's music through the media and video's the only CD I have is "STILLMATIC" which I really like.
I dont have to KNOW all his music to know that using the word NI*GGER to name his album will cause a GREAT BACKLASH, particularly during our CURRENT TIMES.
Nas is SIMPLY CROSSING THE LINE with wanting to name his CD "NI*GGER", this is NOT THE RIGHT TIME IF EVER IT COULD BE.
We are at WAR in Society right now, it's like a pot boiling, why would you make it OVERFLOW.
We have just endured several incidents that indicate that due to our VILE CULTURE penetrating others, and finger pointing, Society is on the attack.
We cannot hand over the WEAPONS FOR ATTACK AT THIS TIME, in the case of this word if ever.
I took the SAME APPROACH WITH Karrine Steffans
www.karrinesteffanshoedown.blogspot.com
I created this website because she represents a "HOE", and that is a word that because it's being HIGHLIGHTED IN OUR CULTURE it's being used to ATTACK US.
YOU MUST THINK OF THESE THINGS.
Karrine's first book came out RIGHT AFTER THE IMUS SITUATION.
So basically after being SO CALLED APPALLED as a community, we ran out and brought the book of a SELF PROFESSED "HOE".
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE TO YOU?
Not only that, she was on the New York Times bestseller list for 26 weeks.
That is SHAMEFUL
Black Authors are published DAILY, they rarely make the PRESTIGOUS NEW YORK TIMES BESTSELLER LIST, but Karrine made it for 26 weeks. lol
Her latest book was on the list for 9 weeks, I like to think I lessened the number.
We never think about our image, we consider that to be conforming to the White man, this despite the fact that we make up only 12% of the population. So unless there is some BLACK CITY somewhere, run operated, and owned by Black people just like every OTHER RACE, we are judged by our actions and that dictates HOW EASILY WE PROGRESS THROUGH SOCIETY.
I tell Black people all the time this is not a war between Hispanics and Blacks, but because of the VAST number of Hispanics coming to this country we will be ABSOLETE IN NO TIME, the way were going.
I see it happening already MANY JOBS require you to be bilingual, many times its a veil to not attract Black Applicants.
It is believed that Hispanic people are hardworking, less of a problem, and isnt focused on race card pulling.
We on the other hand as we continue to ADHERE TO NEGATIVITY, and PAIN BEFALLS US, we seek to blame Society instead of SELF-REFLECTING and it makes us the race to avoid
Look at this clip of a Black WWE wrestler RAMPAGE saying that Sean Kings murder was RACIST.
He claims that 911 takes a long time to come, this may be true at times, but HERES AN EXAMPLE OF A NON THINKER.
He did not know or review the facts of the case JUST SPOKE OUT, AND WENT ON THE ATTACK.
He didnt know, or doesnt want to reflect on the fact that
The phone lines where cut
His girlfriend is white, when she was eventually able to call am sure they knew this.
He lives in a 900,000 home so its not the projects
I MEAN THE BROTHER JUST DECIDED TO SPEAK AND MAKE AN ASS OUT OF HIMSELF.
White People are feeling ATTACKED BECAUSE OF STUNTS LIKE THIS.
We cannot OPEN THE FLOODGATES TO HATRED.
http://www.[SPAM].com/2007/11/28/rampage-can-talk-white-but-is-he-right/
Make sure you read the comment area, to FEEL THE FRUSTRATION OF WHITE PEOPLE.
They ready SOINCERE, they ready to ATTACK, so do we give them the WEAPONS.
Do we stand on the WEAK FOUNDATION OUR COMMUNITIES ARE IN RIGHT NOW, thinking we can sustain an ATTACK?
NO
Because we arent the picture of strength right now it would be SO EASY FOR US TO CRUMBLE.
Take a look at this link, its about a Black Owned Advertising Agency that just lost a major CONTRACT WITH GM, not for any particular reason, they just wanted to try a new direction.
NOPE, Its a SILENT LASH OUT FROM SOCIETY.
http://www.blackvoices.com/blogs/2007/11/29/gm-kicks-black-owned-ad-agency-to-the-curb/1#c9051945
OF course am Just Saying in the comment area.
See we cant just DO ANYTHING right now, the ATTACKS are so subtle but can mean so much.
Nas coming out with this CD especially Black History Month will further frustrate Society, and their belief that we are throwing race in their face, and being attacked
THOUGH YOU MAY NOT WANT TO, YOU MUST THINK OF THESE THINGS.
You have to think of ALL ASPECTS OF THE PICTURE, not just your VISION.
Hate Crimes are on the RISE, due to White people feeling ATTACKED AND
FRUSTRATED.
Add fuel to the fire, when we are in no position to put it out.
Lets focus on strengthen ourselves so we can come from a position of power, not weakness, that can be swatted like a fly.
I mean this is not like past movements, we are not on the same page as a race, so this could never work.
And it will just be a mess, because BLACK PEOPLE, like myself and others will definitely speak out against this, and it will make us seem EVEN WEAKER. We will be fighting amongst ourselves in front of the world, but like I said before maybe thats what we need.
A SEPERATION WITHIN THE COMMUNITY FOR CHANGE.
Because the belief of the contrast between Ni*ggas and Black people will be brought up.
And DAMN IT! I know you wish it wouldnt be so, but be VISIONARY, AND THINK DEEPLY.
THIS WILL BE SOMETHING YOU CANT CONTROL
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I am THROUGH WITH YOU
FEEL FREE TO READ MY POST I'VE ADDRESSED ALL that your trying to say in your
"and another thing,
"and another thing
"and another thing post (3 back to back)
THAT RIGHT THERE MEANS YOUR NOT A THINKER.
Think before you type.
UNBELIEVABLE
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@STAYPOPPIN01
I am THROUGH WITH YOU
FEEL FREE TO READ MY POST I'VE ADDRESSED ALL that your trying to say in your
"and another thing,
"and another thing
"and another thing post (3 back to back)
THAT RIGHT THERE MEANS YOUR NOT A THINKER.
Think before you type.
UNBELIEVABLE
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Damn my stupid insomnia. I couldn't sleep so I decide to comeback and checkout this post and see folks are still at it.
@ Antidumb, I didn't bother reading all your posts because I don't honestly have the time or the patience to read through all of that madness (or deep thought as you like to call it) but what I want to know is why you feel the need to belittle people because they disagree with you. You keep accusing people of not thinking deeply simply because they don't think along the same lines as you do. You mentioned in an earlier post that you were young and it's showing now because most people with some life experience realize that there are very few absolute truths in this world and the rest is gray zone open for interpretation. This whole topic is one of those gray zones and for you to profess that you are the only one with valid or "deep thoughts" is a sign of immaturity and shallowness. Stop making yourself the self-appointed prophetess of MTO and open your mind. (Because right now, you must be working out of the George W. Bush book of "Only My Opinions" are right. You see the kind of mess that line of thinking has gotten our country and our troops into, yet you blunder ahead anyway.)
And on a related note, you keep saying be a visionary, but you're not doing that yourself. Visionaries aren't one dimensional. They have to look at a problem from all sides and angles before they address the situation. You simply look at your own perspective, assume it's the Gospel and run with it. You can't base things on your life experience. Because it's just that, your life experience and it's not necessarily representative the people you claim you want to help.
And I'm honestly curious who your target audience is for your book? Is it the social and politically conscious? If so, they've already got that message loud and clear and don't need a youngin' who's fighting the struggle half cocked to explain it them. Is it for the "ghetto" folks you seem to abhor? If so, how do you think belittling them will help? So you come out with a book airing everyone's dirty laundry and telling them to change and overnight the black community will experience a collective epiphany? I think not. Especially if your method of delivery resembles what you write here. (And I'm not even trashing your writing, but the means in which you go about delivering your message.) And will your book provide the people with a plan for change or will it just point fingers. Because black folks already know their sh!t stinks, what they need is a practical plan for change and then the desire to do it. How will you encourage this?
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And you make mention of us needing to correct the current track we are on because of a pending attack on us by white Amerikkka. But guess what, we could all rise as an enlightened people and at the end of the day, hatred will still exist. You think white people are going to accept us when we stop cooning and we're all going to join hands and sing Kumbayah? That's not how it works. Hatred doesn't feed on logic. It feeds on fear. And at the end of the day, white folks fear us not because of our actions but because of our difference. They (and I use that loosely because not all white people fall into this category) have to control the world around us and even after all this time we haven't fallen in according to their model of living and it frightens them on a primal level. I agree that we need to get it together, but simply for the sake of rebuilding our own crumbling communities and not because of whitey looking over our shoulder. Because at the end of the day, you will never measure up in the eyes of white America. And that's not being self-defeatist, that's being real. Look at our history. We were a regal, majestic people and they still saw it fit to call us animals. We built the pyramids and gave them science and wisdom, but they tried to brainwash us into believing we were ignorant and lesser than them. No matter what we do, they will find a way to defame us. Not to mention, it's not like they are above reproach. You sit here and call black people out on their behavior because it makes us look bad in the eyes of the white and gives them power, but hell their daughters are being pimped out for t-shirts on "Girls Gone Wild" DVD. One their pop icons is a girl with mental illness and poor parenting skills. In their communities, their daughters are learning all you have to do to be successful is become a dirty whore with a sex tape. Their leader is redneck good old boy with an known history of drug abuse and draft dodging. How are they in any position to judge? And why would anyone feel the need to live up to the white measuring stick when they themselves fall short of the bar? You can do a song and dance till you are blue in the face. You can speak eloquently and knowledgeably. But at the end of the day, they will still think of you as a dirty ni@@er, not because thats what you are, but simply because thats what they need you to be. Regardless of our accomplishments, they will continue to box us into a corner because they need to feel superior. (I attribute to the fact that on some instinctual level, they realize they are the true minorities of the world and it frightens them. They know that if we amassed our power and banned together with our brothers and sisters across the globe, we could run the world. And they fear the retribution that would take place if such a thing were to happen.)
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It looks extremely bad when you responds to a persons post with "oh, your post doesn't make any sense, spell check it" or "it was too long and I couldn't comprehend it". Everyone could take a red pen to your posts until they bled but thats besides the point and has nothing to do with the topic at hand and doesnt foster intelligent conversation. (Sorry, that's just a pet peeve. How the hell do you call people out on grammar when your own could use some work?) |
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See look, I can point out my own spelling mistakes. But the difference is I composed this at 4:00 in the morning with only a few hours sleep. I think that's some damn fine writing for someone who is groggy and in need of caffeine. (Oh and if you couldn't tell, the first half of my post was dishing out a little of what you served the last time I responded. Sound familiar? That's how you came at me and any other poster who disagreed with you. The art of debate isn't about rude barbs, so let's stick to the topic at hand and leave out the personal mudslinging. I'll play nice if you play nice.) |
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antidumb.....
You finally sounded like you have some sense in your last post although I STRAIGHT hated to read itFor some reason you knocked all that self rightousness down a notch and kinda heard what you were saying.....a lil. I have to apologize because even though I DISAGREE ALOT with your approach I am no better if I continue to argue. It is still attacking a brother and as MUCH as I hate when people attack the element Im most familiar with so I shouldn't attack you. Contrary to what you may think I didnt grow up in no projects, I came from a great fam and recieved my degree from college. So I am not anti middle class. I live in middle america and work with some of the most upity blacks you ever want to meet. My husband is a different type of dude but thats what i fell in love with. i see how strong he is and what he came from so i developed a love for what it is he does and a admiration for how he does it. So I see on a regular both angles. And trust me when I tell you EVERY APPROACH DON'T WORK IN EVERY SCENARIO! So again although I think you have ALOT to learn (as well as myself) at least like I stated earlier you have passion about your convictions.....BUT if you run around half knowing what you are talking about but still foolishly trying to argue it IT WILL INVALIDATE YOUR WHOLE POINT! Don't do that to yourself. And don't do it to your people. Because you are right...If you really call yourself about to put yourself out there as a voice of reason within our community YOU WILL HAVE TO FIGHT WITH CRITICS! IN FRONT OF A MUCH LARGER AUDIENCE, WHO ARE 100X TOUGHER THAN I AM. I know what you are saying.I know we have some mental diseases in our community. BUT that battle is so deep it CANNOT be attacked at one level. Count yourself blessed that you are one of the found in the "lost generation". But baby you got to go back TO THE WILDERNESS to pull the others out. If thats what you want to do. Or else your messag will come off as a elitist perspective that just sounds like "im the beauty of our race....why can't you animals get it together?" We know we messed up! We to a degree know why we are messed up. BUT HOW DO WE CHANGE IT? And so much comes with that question! THAT IS THE QUESTION TO BE TACKLED! We don't need to waste so much time telling us what we already know! I see you are strong willed, best thing you are YOUNG so you got so much time and energy to do what you want, so I would suggest doing that RESEARCH you plan on doing to find some viable solutions. If you are this stubborn imagine if you put some base behind it. THERE IS POLICY AND LAWS IN PLACE THAT ARE KICKING THE INNER CITY'S ASS! Keep thatsame stubborness when you get politicians who constantly tell you NO NO NO! Cause we need someone who wont back down. |
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P.S...aNTIDUMB....
I brought up you trackrecord not to get personal. I wasnt trying to find a way to jab at you. Your track record comes into play when you make remarks like
"who is ignorant, who is a waste and not a leader, who lead who on the wrong path", about people although not perfect have contributed SOMETHING to this struggle we got. If you wern't so critical of others then others wouldn't be so critical of you. POLITICAL CAMPAIGN STRATEGY 101....a without a record CANNOT afford to attack a person with even a less than perfect record. Why?....because you cannot compare yourself with what you don't have. (Kerry went through this in the last presidential debate.) So never done to get at you "personally". Only done to prove a point! Again....with maturity you will learn not to throw stones unless you are CONFIDENT you can sheild the ones in return. |
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iSWEAR IM NOT ATTACKING. I just respectfully would like you to examine these two quotes you just made.
"We have just endured several incidents that indicate that due to our VILE CULTURE penetrating others, and finger pointing, Society is on the attack."
antidumb: as nicely as I can put it this is what will become clearer with more reasearch and life lessons. OUR vile culture????? Penetrating OTHERS????? THIS IS WHY SOCIETY IS ATTACKING US??? Are you serious? You think this CULTURE is of black peoples construct? I am not going to get to far into it but son this is AMERICAN CULTURE! vIOLENCE IS THE AMERICAN WAY. Sex money and drugs is the american way! We have fell victim to it the hardest but trust me these good lod crackas arn't just sick and sad with us negro's messing up their wholsome america so they scorn us! OMG! What is the difference between a gangsta in a suit killing up folks through policy and a gangsta in the street killing each other with guns? (we kill each other is the problem). What is the difference between robbing your neighbor or robbing enron? What is the difference between Karrine Steffans and Brittney Spears? OUR VILE CULTURE DIDN'T PENETRATE SHYT! Their vile culture has penetrated the world..including us. We have just taken it internalized it and are dying from it. Our history is our culture...not our present. This is their shyt!
"We never think about our image, we consider that to be conforming to the White man, this despite the fact that we make up only 12% of the population. So unless there is some BLACK CITY somewhere, run operated, and owned by Black people just like every OTHER RACE, we are judged by our actions and that dictates HOW EASILY WE PROGRESS THROUGH SOCIETY."
Look up a city called BLACK WALL STREET! See what happened when we had a BLACK CITY, RAN BY BLACK PEOPLE, WHO HAD BLACK HOSPITALS SCHOOLS AND STORES. Millionaires! Civil, beautiful, successful, black people. Did SOCIETY allow them to progress and flourish. Did they welcom them as a economic partner and base of a flourishing economy? But you make it seem like if black folks would just get it toghether whity will leave us alone and welcome us with open arms! Yeah o.k.....do that mean Im saying 'why try"....NO! We need another black wall street BAD. BUT stop thinking that this mess we are in is soley a matter of our own construct. Did you know that the reason why all these ARABs come over here and open up liquor stores is because they get tax breaks for doing so? If a Arab came and said 'I want to open up a salon, let me get a tax break"..it wouldnt happen. They are only given those breaks IF they open up "certain" business'. My collegue of mines father owns 4 of them. Am I making excuses...no! Im just saying this ish is by DESIGN! You need to recognize that. That will make you that much more capable in your fight. That way you recognize more than one enemy...cause there are a few! We may be our own worst but the skulls and bones are pulling a CLOSE SECOND! |
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@Nubian_Huntress
I can tell you didn't read my post, because your asking me things I've already answered but then go on to write such a long response.
IT MAKES ME SLEEPY
So take care
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@Nubian_Huntress
I can tell you didn't read my post, because your asking me things I've already answered but then go on to write such a long response.
IT MAKES ME SLEEPY
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@sosincere
Your post had some valid points, and life is a CONTINUOUS LEARNING PROCESS.
I just wish you would have come against my direct points and rebuttels to what I said.
Because it's an overwhelming amount of points, but I'll address the two you picked out of my post.
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You responded to this----We have just endured several incidents that indicate that due to our VILE CULTURE penetrating others, and finger pointing, Society is on the attack
----Based on your response, your right American Culture as a whole is on the downslide.
However there are slight differences that effect our community more so than others, this while keeping in mind we are minorities.
*One, we have a culture that is like no other, we take "vile" words and make them casual, other races don't do that, "vile" words are to insult someone, it's not "cool".
This gives us a HARSHIER DEMEANOR,
*We highlight crime in a "NON-FICTIONAL" manner and it's IDOLIZED and believed to be an ok way of life, and a way to obtain money.
Do you notice how ARMED ROBBERIES, not just in entertainment but in the community is on the rise?
Many are realizeing that it's less risky than selling drugs and easier, in terms of once it's done it's done, their are many burlary and robbery rings(gangs) emerging and terorrising our neighborhoods.
No other race highlights this activity, in a POSITIVE WAY.
*You said what is the difference between Karrine and Britney?
There's a big difference Britney is NOT SUPPORT BY HER COMMUNITY. Britney just had a CD come out "Blackout" and it only sold 400,000 copies in a MONTH, her first 3 CD'S did an average of 600,000 it's first week and went on to sell appox 10million copies each.
White people sent the message, WE WILL LOOK AT THE PAPARAZZI PICTURES, but we will not support you with our HARD EARNED MONEY.
That is NOT the case with Karrine, we support her WITHOUT THINKING, this motivates her to continue feeding us trash, in fact she has a movie coming out.
My point is we SUPPORT NEGATIVITY, this shows up in other entertainers we support also.
This seems peculiar to most.
I referrence a Vile Culture because it is WORLDWIDE, many other races listen to and observb our music. It's NOT POSITIVE.
And doesn't amount to a POSITIVE REFLECTION
White people don't support NEGATIVITY TO THE EXTREME LIKE US.
Paris, Lindsey, Nicole they are not supported in their ventures Paris's CD sold 70,000 copies, Linsey's last music flopped and Nicole does nothing.
THEY ARE SIMPLY A MEDIA SENSATION, and primarily used to RIDICULE, the digust towards them is EVIDENT.
So when we turn around an POINT FINGERS this is NOT GOOD, we must be more positive for respect, and not stnd behind NEGATIVITY.
Aside from that I do see changes in other cultures, I will hear white teenagers say "NI*GGER" in a non-racist casual manner sometimes when speaking to BLack People.
You think their parents don't see this?
Though we ALL share the same obstacles in society, we always take things a STEP FURTHER, and this shows up in our communtities, this cannot be denied. We somehow convince ourselves that negative is good and "ok".
example:
While robbery happens everywhere we will SEE IT MORE IN OUR COMMUNITIES.
We CONDONE THIS IN OUR MUSIC, and it's on the rise.
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You responded to----We never think about our image, we consider that to be conforming to the White man, this despite the fact that we make up only 12% of the population. So unless there is some BLACK CITY somewhere, run operated, and owned by Black people just like every OTHER RACE, we are judged by our actions and that dictates HOW EASILY WE PROGRESS THROUGH SOCIETY."
---- I would like to look up some of the points you made, about certain stores being tax breaks.
I think it's interesting and always wondered why certain minorities could come here and get these stores
The focus in my response was to address, us pertaining to the workforce, which is changing right before our eyes. We can't be blind.
Hispanics are flociking here and taking many of the jobs we once dominated. THey had that problem during Katrina, Hispanics went there because the jobs where there, they where able to do very well, but Black Men complained that they couldn't get the construction jobs becuase of them, so they started to "rob the Hispanics"
There labor is cheap, they have different stereotypes that seem less aggressive and in all areas of our workforce I see BIG CHANGES
OCCURRING.
And in response to a "Black City", we had and have many chances. I can believe and see how hard it could have been in the past, but now would be the time to do this.
You saw it happening with Atlanta, look at Atlanta now.
Several years ago, just like most Black People everybody wanted to move to Atlanta, it was a city that was booming with Black Businesses, and really doing well, even in REAL ESTATE.
What happened? As soon as "Hip Hop" started HIGHLIGHTING IT, it attracted the WRONG ATTENTION AND CROWD.
YOu would cry if you knew Atlanta's statistics and how it's taken a NOSE DIVE.
We mess up what we touch because we are EMBRACING NEGATIVITY, and it touches us all not just those who are acually involved, it is effecting communities.
There are MANY AREAS THAT ARE PRODOMINATELY BLACK, even DETROIT, it's a HORROR ZONE.
Thanks for the response, I am continuously researching and trying to grow, that's why my book will focus on certain areas, it will not be a book of broad topics.
It deals mostly with the ATTITUDES and MENTALITIES we have in our generation. |
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@sosincere
Your post had some valid points, and life is a CONTINUOUS LEARNING PROCESS.
I just wish you would have come against my direct points and rebuttels to what I said.
Because it's an overwhelming amount of points, but I'll address the two you picked out of my post.
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You responded to this----We have just endured several incidents that indicate that due to our VILE CULTURE penetrating others, and finger pointing, Society is on the attack
----Based on your response, your right American Culture as a whole is on the downslide.
However there are slight differences that effect our community more so than others, this while keeping in mind we are minorities.
*One, we have a culture that is like no other, we take "vile" words and make them casual, other races don't do that, "vile" words are to insult someone, it's not "cool".
This gives us a HARSHIER DEMEANOR,
*We highlight crime in a "NON-FICTIONAL" manner and it's IDOLIZED and believed to be an ok way of life, and a way to obtain money.
Do you notice how ARMED ROBBERIES, not just in entertainment but in the community is on the rise?
Many are realizeing that it's less risky than selling drugs and easier, in terms of once it's done it's done, their are many burlary and robbery rings(gangs) emerging and terorrising our neighborhoods.
No other race highlights this activity, in a POSITIVE WAY.
*You said what is the difference between Karrine and Britney?
There's a big difference Britney is NOT SUPPORT BY HER COMMUNITY. Britney just had a CD come out "Blackout" and it only sold 400,000 copies in a MONTH, her first 3 CD'S did an average of 600,000 it's first week and went on to sell appox 10million copies each.
White people sent the message, WE WILL LOOK AT THE PAPARAZZI PICTURES, but we will not support you with our HARD EARNED MONEY.
That is NOT the case with Karrine, we support her WITHOUT THINKING, this motivates her to continue feeding us trash, in fact she has a movie coming out.
My point is we SUPPORT NEGATIVITY, this shows up in other entertainers we support also.
This seems peculiar to most.
I referrence a Vile Culture because it is WORLDWIDE, many other races listen to and observb our music. It's NOT POSITIVE.
And doesn't amount to a POSITIVE REFLECTION
White people don't support NEGATIVITY TO THE EXTREME LIKE US.
Paris, Lindsey, Nicole they are not supported in their ventures Paris's CD sold 70,000 copies, Linsey's last music flopped and Nicole does nothing.
THEY ARE SIMPLY A MEDIA SENSATION, and primarily used to RIDICULE, the digust towards them is EVIDENT.
So when we turn around an POINT FINGERS this is NOT GOOD, we must be more positive for respect, and not stnd behind NEGATIVITY.
Aside from that I do see changes in other cultures, I will hear white teenagers say "NI*GGER" in a non-racist casual manner sometimes when speaking to BLack People.
You think their parents don't see this?
Though we ALL share the same obstacles in society, we always take things a STEP FURTHER, and this shows up in our communtities, this cannot be denied. We somehow convince ourselves that negative is good and "ok".
example:
While robbery happens everywhere we will SEE IT MORE IN OUR COMMUNITIES.
We CONDONE THIS IN OUR MUSIC, and it's on the rise.
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You responded to----We never think about our image, we consider that to be conforming to the White man, this despite the fact that we make up only 12% of the population. So unless there is some BLACK CITY somewhere, run operated, and owned by Black people just like every OTHER RACE, we are judged by our actions and that dictates HOW EASILY WE PROGRESS THROUGH SOCIETY."
---- I would like to look up some of the points you made, about certain stores being tax breaks.
I think it's interesting and always wondered why certain minorities could come here and get these stores
The focus in my response was to address, us pertaining to the workforce, which is changing right before our eyes. We can't be blind.
Hispanics are flociking here and taking many of the jobs we once dominated. THey had that problem during Katrina, Hispanics went there because the jobs where there, they where able to do very well, but Black Men complained that they couldn't get the construction jobs becuase of them, so they started to "rob the Hispanics"
There labor is cheap, they have different stereotypes that seem less aggressive and in all areas of our workforce I see BIG CHANGES
OCCURRING.
And in response to a "Black City", we had and have many chances. I can believe and see how hard it could have been in the past, but now would be the time to do this.
You saw it happening with Atlanta, look at Atlanta now.
Several years ago, just like most Black People everybody wanted to move to Atlanta, it was a city that was booming with Black Businesses, and really doing well, even in REAL ESTATE.
What happened? As soon as "Hip Hop" started HIGHLIGHTING IT, it attracted the WRONG ATTENTION AND CROWD.
YOu would cry if you knew Atlanta's statistics and how it's taken a NOSE DIVE.
We mess up what we touch because we are EMBRACING NEGATIVITY, and it touches us all not just those who are acually involved, it is effecting communities.
There are MANY AREAS THAT ARE PRODOMINATELY BLACK, even DETROIT, it's a HORROR ZONE.
Thanks for the response, I am continuously researching and trying to grow, that's why my book will focus on certain areas, it will not be a book of broad topics.
It deals mostly with the ATTITUDES and MENTALITIES we have in our generation. |
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@ Antidumb, I didn't see answers, I saw a tirade. You don't have to write a book in response to a question to get your point across. But you keep doing you and I'll keep doing me and we'll see who affects the most change at the end of the day. Good luck on your research. I hope during the course of it, you actually learn some things. |
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@Nubian_Huntress
Good bye Nubian, you obviously aren't use to addressing people with different Conversational styles.
I will NOT CUDDLE YOU, and since your not making any points and claim you didn't read my post.
I guess
Am too harsh and direct for you
I don't take well to emotional insults, they at the most just annoy me.
SO NO NEED TO KEEP COMING BACK, TAKE CARE. |
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